I could be way off my rocker with this one folks... but as I was... well...er... lets say "under the influence" last night, I came up with what seems like it could very well be the plot for TSLs.

 

Here is what we know so far: takes place 5 years after KOTOR when you are thought to be the last remaining jedi. Also, the devs have stated that the apprentece role will have a place in this game.

 

So I was thinking... since you are the supposed last jedi (although we know there will be at least a couple more), there must not be a Jedi Counsel any more. Thus, if you chose to play the game on the light side, would it not make sense that in the end (after concouring the sith threat) you would be responsible for re-establishing the order and the jedi counsel with yourself and the jedi members of your party (along with any others throughout the game)? Or, on the flip side, if you play the game on the dark side, doesn't it seem like your purpose would be to finish the game as THE Sith Lord, and you and your apprentice would begin the practice of always having the Sith Master and Sith apprentice?

 

Hmmmmmmmmmmm...... food for thought

Everything now is just speculation. Im sorry to say this, but just because you had a feeling doesnt mean youre remotely close to the true plotline. I wish we could stop doing this to ourselves. Devs, free us from this endless denial!

so you posted to tell me what I already knew in a thread you have no intrest in?

so you posted to tell me what I already knew in a thread you have no intrest in?

Pretty much.

For all we know we could be the K2 version of Bandon and Revan could turn out to be our master. I just sayin'. Don't hate. B)

so you posted to tell me what I already knew in a thread you have no intrest in?

Welcome to the Obsidian forums! <_<

 

But yeah, your idea is interesting and could be something to speculate off of in the future.

so you posted to tell me what I already knew in a thread you have no intrest in?

Welcome to the Obsidian forums! <_<

 

Keep the good times rollin' baby! ^_^

Or, on the flip side, if you play the game on the dark side, doesn't it seem like your purpose would be to finish the game as THE Sith Lord, and you and your apprentice would begin the practice of always having the Sith Master and Sith apprentice?

Only if you changed your name to Darth Bane and traveled in time 3000 years into the future.

Or, on the flip side, if you play the game on the dark side, doesn't it seem like your purpose would be to finish the game as THE Sith Lord, and you and your apprentice would begin the practice of always having the Sith Master and Sith apprentice?

Only if you changed your name to Darth Bane and traveled in time 3000 years into the future.

That's a thing about KOTOR: the Sith practice of having an apparentice is there then, but as far as I know, Bane decided that it should not go beyond that, which is seems to do in KOTOR; as soon as the Sith is judged ready, he/she goes on, or kills his/her master to go on... and in the earlier case, the master just take another apparentice.

Or, on the flip side, if you play the game on the dark side, doesn't it seem like your purpose would be to finish the game as THE Sith Lord, and you and your apprentice would begin the practice of always having the Sith Master and Sith apprentice?

Only if you changed your name to Darth Bane and traveled in time 3000 years into the future.

That's a thing about KOTOR: the Sith practice of having an apparentice is there then, but as far as I know, Bane decided that it should not go beyond that, which is seems to do in KOTOR; as soon as the Sith is judged ready, he/she goes on, or kills his/her master to go on... and in the earlier case, the master just take another apparentice.

Except that Bane also decided there will never be more than a maximum of 2 Sith at all times. As KOTOR2 shows, there were multiple Sith Lords at the same time during its time frame.

Or, on the flip side, if you play the game on the dark side, doesn't it seem like your purpose would be to finish the game as THE Sith Lord, and you and your apprentice would begin the practice of always having the Sith Master and Sith apprentice?

Only if you changed your name to Darth Bane and traveled in time 3000 years into the future.

That's a thing about KOTOR: the Sith practice of having an apparentice is there then, but as far as I know, Bane decided that it should not go beyond that, which is seems to do in KOTOR; as soon as the Sith is judged ready, he/she goes on, or kills his/her master to go on... and in the earlier case, the master just take another apparentice.

Except that Bane also decided there will never be more than a maximum of 2 Sith at all times. As KOTOR2 shows, there were multiple Sith Lords at the same time during its time frame.

I think if I understand it correctly the rule of two implies that the master can't have more than one apprentice. mind you I could be way off anyone know if I am right or wrong on this?

You're right.

 

But,

 

I could be way off my rocker with this one folks... but as I was... well...er... lets say "under the influence" last night, I came up with what seems like it could very well be the plot for TSLs.

 

Here is what we know so far: takes place 5 years after KOTOR when you are thought to be the last remaining jedi. Also, the devs have stated that the apprentece role will have a place in this game.

 

So I was thinking... since you are the supposed last jedi (although we know there will be at least a couple more), there must not be a Jedi Counsel any more. Thus, if you chose to play the game on the light side, would it not make sense that in the end (after concouring the sith threat) you would be responsible for re-establishing the order and the jedi counsel with yourself and the jedi members of your party (along with any others throughout the game)? Or, on the flip side, if you play the game on the dark side, doesn't it seem like your purpose would be to finish the game as THE Sith Lord, and you and your apprentice would begin the practice of always having the Sith Master and Sith apprentice?

 

Hmmmmmmmmmmm...... food for thought

 

What? Aren't these pretty much a given? I mean, irregardless of the plotline, if you're playing LS you'll have to re-establish the Jedi Council, and if you're DS, you have to be THE Dark Lord. Unless of course, the ending is much more open-ended with an option of being morally gray.

 

I'm not trying to be condescending or anything like that. I'm just saying, these outcomes seem more like an end result rather than an entire plotline. I mean, don't they seem more like consequences and not necessarily actions?

and if you're DS, you have to be THE Dark Lord.

Why would you HAVE to be the Dark lord?

Or, on the flip side, if you play the game on the dark side, doesn't it seem like your purpose would be to finish the game as THE Sith Lord, and you and your apprentice would begin the practice of always having the Sith Master and Sith apprentice?

Only if you changed your name to Darth Bane and traveled in time 3000 years into the future.

That's a thing about KOTOR: the Sith practice of having an apparentice is there then, but as far as I know, Bane decided that it should not go beyond that, which is seems to do in KOTOR; as soon as the Sith is judged ready, he/she goes on, or kills his/her master to go on... and in the earlier case, the master just take another apparentice.

Except that Bane also decided there will never be more than a maximum of 2 Sith at all times. As KOTOR2 shows, there were multiple Sith Lords at the same time during its time frame.

I think if I understand it correctly the rule of two implies that the master can't have more than one apprentice. mind you I could be way off anyone know if I am right or wrong on this?

You are correct.

but does that mean there can only be a total of two dark lords in the galaxy at anyone time?

but does that mean there can only be a total of two dark lords in the galaxy at anyone time?

Only a total of two dark lords, yes, if you follow Bane's rule. But even if Bane followed this tradition and his successsors did, there have probably also been other dark force users in both Bane's and his successors time. But they have not been Sith Lords, so I think their power can't relly be compared to that of the Sith's, unless they were ex-jedi...

Huh. Theres like 5 differnet lords.

Your version seems ligical, but i think we're going to be surprised by Obsidian. Very surprised.

Also, the devs have stated that the apprentece role will have a place in this game.

Where do they say that?

Huh. Theres like 5 differnet lords.

KOTOR1 and KOTOR2 take place before Darth Bane came up with that rule. About 3000 years before he did actually.

Also, the devs have stated that the apprentece role will have a place in this game.

Where do they say that?

Feargus said in an interview that one theme of the game is exploring the master/apprentice relationship.

Also, the devs have stated that the apprentece role will have a place in this game.

Where do they say that?

Feargus said in an interview that one theme of the game is exploring the master/apprentice relationship.

Do u know the link for that?

but does that mean there can only be a total of two dark lords in the galaxy at anyone time?

If you mean in Darth Bane's restructured Sith order, then it means there's only 2 Sith....AT ALL. This is so that they can stay hidden from the Jedi. Because if they were like in KOTOR, they'd be detected quickly. And this was a time period when the Jedi were dominant. Why do you think Darth Bane reformed the Sith Order?

Also, the devs have stated that the apprentece role will have a place in this game.

Where do they say that?

Feargus said in an interview that one theme of the game is exploring the master/apprentice relationship.

Do u know the link for that?

Just see the first page of the Ask a Dev-Take two thread. I believe it's there

 

What's the underlying theme in Kotor II

 

We aren