The US debt illustrated in two different ways

The time line one per also gives some pointers to why the debt rose (unlike the debt per president which conveniently glosses over which factors caused it to rise)

https://www.us-debt-clock.com/debt-history

The next one, per president gives less details other than whoever was the incumbent that term and which party had the presidency (no explanation for why money was needed, like Reagans tax break for the rich or Covid etc.)
https://www.us-debt-clock.com/presidents

40 minutes ago, rjshae said:

Sure, sure. Republicans are just far more hypocritical about it, running on balancing the budget when they're out of power, then running up the debt when they have control.

They are also cutting programs that help people while ratcheting up the budget for ICE and the military. Lets cut medicaid, but at least we have the resources to deport people who overstay their visas. 🙄

Looks like Canada is going to get shafted with the trade deal, certainly the auto industry here is going to get mauled.

I guess if it is going to die, we should let China in, maybe that can gut the Americans some.

Edited August 21Aug 21 by Malcador

Funny thing about economically right wing political parties: they're almost always worse than the left for running up debt.

Mostly because they've collectively gone for a approach which has quite literally never worked once in 'austerity' and all the phrases they desperately use to try and avoid saying 'austerity' now that it's tainted. What you get is always a variant of stagflation, with increased debt. The belief that you can cut your way to growth is basically religious- and like a lot of wacky religions, predicated more on capital B Belief that This Is How Things Should Work than anything objective.

Most of the left wing parties are still basically Keynesian- spend out of recession, pay down debt in good times. Which is basic common sense really, when you've got debt at governmental interest rates. And so long as you do pay the debt down in the good times. Right wing ones stifle growth by cutting then use the dead cat bounce to justify tax cuts for themselves. They never actually pay down the debt as any surplus has to be 'returned to the people'. Or their large donors.

Cut jobs--> take money out of the actual economy where people go to restaurants, see movies etc--> be surprised when nobody has any money to spend and all those businesses go bust and their employees can't spend --> things get worse. But hey, have you seen the numbers on the sharemarket?

(Same thing will happen with AI, all those enthusiastic politicians getting bungs from lobbyists to promote that snake oil will be amazed when the economic benefits don't eventuate. Or, at least, 'amazed')

canada doesn't have much choice

not like they can paddle themself closer to europe

the military budget are funny

somehow usa spend 500 million to make ww1 artillery shell

and failed

there is really no recovery from this level of bloat and incompetence

So apparently everything fell apart at the last minute, Nutlick got involved at the end as well, so..

Carney's statement - https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/statements/2026/08/21/statement-prime-minister-carney-canada-us-trade-negotiations

Edited August 22Aug 22 by Malcador

15 hours ago, rjshae said:

Sure, sure. Republicans are just far more hypocritical about it, running on balancing the budget when they're out of power, then running up the debt when they have control.

Yes, Republicans are suppose to be the fiscally conservative party. But under Trump that definition has vanished

CTVNews

Doug Ford and Donald Trump exchange insults as trade war...

Ontario Premier Doug Ford is slamming Donald Trump as a “dictator” and the “king of bankruptcies” after the U.S. president criticized him on social media on Monday afternoon. Live updates here.

This is just stupid now. Wish someone would explain how the US is being ripped off, the worst has been affecting their dairy industry.

5 hours ago, Malcador said:

This is just stupid now. Wish someone would explain how the US is being ripped off, the worst has been affecting their dairy industry.

On the top ten list of inane stinky-isms, I have his behavior toward Canada as #1 and the Iran war as #2. There's not much we can do about it until the election though.

more usa posture the harder it will be for them to annex canada

it is just silly to watch

US C-17A Landed in Moscow today and there's this video too.

Will be interesting to see what comes of this. Probably some deal regarding support for Ukraine/Iran.

edit: Appears to be John Ratcliffe CIA Director.

Edited August 25Aug 25 by Sarex

@rjshae

What do you think, is this something they not teaching you in school about US history...she did say people must just research like she did?

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1 hour ago, BruceVC said:

@rjshae

What do you think, is this something they not teaching you in school about US history...she did say people must just research like she did?

😱

Heh, nope, not that I'm aware. It seems like the right has been diverging from reality for a while now, with stinky being a prominent example. My (admittedly unconventional) conjecture is that the party wants to increase its power by becoming people's only source of information, via FOX. But implementing that means diverging sharply from more reliable mainstream sources like scientists, doctors, broadcast news, and books. The more the party gets people to fall into the rabbit hole that is conspiracy theory, the more reliant they become on the party line. It's all very 1984 newspeak.

14 hours ago, rjshae said:

Heh, nope, not that I'm aware. It seems like the right has been diverging from reality for a while now, with stinky being a prominent example. My (admittedly unconventional) conjecture is that the party wants to increase its power by becoming people's only source of information, via FOX. But implementing that means diverging sharply from more reliable mainstream sources like scientists, doctors, broadcast news, and books. The more the party gets people to fall into the rabbit hole that is conspiracy theory, the more reliant they become on the party line. It's all very 1984 newspeak.

But this type of understanding is a new level of ignorance and nonsensical insight

I doubt even FOX would suggest that the UK has been controlling the USA for the last 125 years. I tell you where I think its coming from

There has been a rejection of the Mainstream media (MSM) for years from people on both sides in many countries for different reasons. So they get there updates from podcasts and Internet commentators and influencers. And sometimes these other sources of information peddle the most sensationalized and illogical conspiracy theories out there

But if thats all you exposed to and you believe its the " truth " you would think you informed

What people should be doing is referencing both the MSM and these other sources of information if they want and then using common sense about what is true or not likely

I use MSM and then sites like Reuters and the Economist. And once the same story is confirmed as credible for various reasons, like an embedded journalist in the country, real events or an actual interview, then it can be trusted

But you always have to be aware of context

So this lady probably gets her news from some obscure podcaster that is only popular to a certain group. She wont reference or be interested in other sources of information

8 hours ago, BruceVC said:

So this lady probably gets her news from some obscure podcaster that is only popular to a certain group. She wont reference or be interested in other sources of information

There have always been fringe beliefs. I particularly remember being on a bus ride where the driver spent nearly the entire trip trying to convince us that soft drinks cause formaldehyde to appear in the blood stream. The difference now is that everybody gets a low-cost media platform from which to spew their potty ideas.

Sometimes stinky is a man. Now is not one of those times.

Trump signs order renaming Lake Ontario as ‘Lake America’ in the United States

usa starting to import mystery meat now

truly living the cyberpunk fantasy

On 8/28/2026 at 12:01 AM, rjshae said:

Sometimes stinky is a man. Now is not one of those times.

Trump signs order renaming Lake Ontario as ‘Lake America’ in the United States

Wonder how the US - Canada relationship will go on from this,

1 hour ago, Malcador said:

Wonder how the US - Canada relationship will go on from this,

Hard to say. It probably depends on who follows stinky and whether we get back to responsible governance. There will be a lot of bridges in need of repair, so to speak.

15 hours ago, uuuhhii said:

usa starting to import mystery meat now

Mystery Meat turns up while wild horse herds are being culled. Whatever could it be?

Here's stinky's latest attempt to game the system in his favor:

US Postal Service issues new rule for mail ballots, but its impact on the midterms is uncertain

It's a fundamentally unconstitutional rule because it allows the executive branch to regulate who gets to vote (in states that vote by mail), something that the constitution delegates to the states and Congress. In reality, it adds little new in terms of security because voter eligibility is already checked during the registration process, and it creates a layer of fallibility and endless bureaucracy.

This was made a requirement just before the election, and would need to be implemented flawlessly by the Postal Service. Worse case, this is allowed by SCOTUS and states either comply or get their election blocked. Fortunately I think there's a way out of this: contract parcel delivery services to ship the ballots to voters, thereby bypassing the federal government.

This assumes it doesn't get negated by the courts (which SCOTUS has already indicated it might not). Either way, it going to cost millions of taxpayer dollars to address this. Yet another taxpayer money wasting effort by this power-hungry nutter.

usa are trying to seal their ownership of venezuela oil by agreement

how long it will last this time

https://archive.ph/uN0zZ

*Pentagon spokesman Joel Valdez declined to comment to The Post about whether any of the three are drawing a taxpayer-funded salary, what roles they have or how long those jobs are expected to last. Tata did not respond to a request for comment."

Corruption never stops

Supreme Court lets White House continue construction on Stinky’s $400 million ballroom

Looks like Nero's Dancehall project is back on. The wealthy can dance while the nation burns.