The All Things Political Topic - SNAFU edition

[Pidesco]

As has been shown again and again, Trump is very easy to manipulate and he always agrees with the last person he spoke to. Mamdani specifically seems like a particularly charming dude. 

 

Trump doesn't really care about NY. 

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On 11/22/2025 at 12:10 AM, rjshae said:

Today in stupid:

Without evidence, CDC changes messaging on vaccines and autism

Hmm, it seems like they need a rebrand to go along with their turn to superstition. Committee for Delusional Communication? Center for Demented Cruft?

 

greatest achievement in medical history

throw away for tiny amount of money scam out of a few moron

[BruceVC]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/doge-doesnt-exist-with-eight-months-left-its-charter-2025-11-23/

DOGE has officially closed 8 months early 

What a disaster,  it was hyped and sensationalized and now its over 

Musk should have stayed in his lane in the private sector, his sojourn into public sector was an unmitigated failure 

[Lexx]

It was just a means to sabotage Musks enemies, guess they were successful. 

[BruceVC]

2 minutes ago, Lexx said:

It was just a means to sabotage Musks enemies, guess they were successful. 

No it had stated goals that were basically about reducing Federal expenditure that was considered wasteful and unnecessary 

And Musk was brought in because he claimed this would be " easy " 

Musk made a unexpected  mistake of assuming public sector restructuring  is the same as private sector restructuring which he had successfully done within his own companies

But DOGE had an understandable objective. There are lots of Americans who think the Federal government is bloated and ineffective 

They just went about it a completely heavy handed and unsustainable  way 

Im not sure why you think it was about Musk's enemies?

[Lexx]

11 minutes ago, BruceVC said:

No it had stated goals that were basically about reducing Federal expenditure that was considered wasteful and unnecessary 

Yes, and then they dismantled the agencies that had dirt on Musk and were about to get him for it.

[uuuhhii]

rotten carcass of usa federal goverment are dismembered much further in the last year

so oligarch got what they wanted

sadly what people wanted was rarely what they needed

even oligarch are people in this aspect

[rjshae]

I see the Comey/James indictments got tossed for the stupidest possible reason. Par for the course, I suppose. Reputable prosecutors probably want nothing to do with Trump's revenge dish, for all kinds of good reasons.

 

'Send a message to the rest': Board recommends disbarment for Trump attorney Jeffrey Clark

[Malcador]

Hegseth showing his qualities with this spat with Kelly.  I wonder if he thinks an Army Captain is the same as a Navy Captain. 

[Malcador]

Double post.  

https://www.npr.org/2025/11/25/nx-s1-5615164/pentagon-scouting-hegseth-cut-ties

The US really isn't run by serious people.

Edited Tuesday at 11:11 PM by Malcador

[Hurlshort]

4 hours ago, Malcador said:

Double post.  

https://www.npr.org/2025/11/25/nx-s1-5615164/pentagon-scouting-hegseth-cut-ties

The US really isn't run by serious people.

Amazing that the pedophile scout leaders didn't kill the scouts, but girls getting badges is going too far. Hegseth is such a thin skinned tool.

[rjshae]

5 hours ago, Malcador said:

Double post.  

https://www.npr.org/2025/11/25/nx-s1-5615164/pentagon-scouting-hegseth-cut-ties

The US really isn't run by serious people.

Long term that makes no sense, at least for military recruitment. This administration is strangely obsessed by DEI. Idiots run in packs, I suppose.

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18 hours ago, rjshae said:

Long term that makes no sense, at least for military recruitment. This administration is strangely obsessed by DEI. Idiots run in packs, I suppose.

 

it has obviously turn into circus now

make one wonder how the planned invasion of venezuela would go

[Gorgon]

it might actually be to late to flex with move against Venezuela. for one thing there are Russian navy in the area, for another they have failed to really sell it. Public opinion is largely negative. It won't boost his numbers. 

[uuuhhii]

just because something are stupid and unpopular doesn't mean usa wouldn't do it

like the tariff cutting all kind of social welfare and atrocity at middle east

[BruceVC]

https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker

Economist has just released its approval ratings for Trump and its not good, its because of the real and perceived failures around the economy and inflation. And as we all know these were the 2 main voting issues for most Americans who voted for Trump

I have also personally noticed a general anti-Trump sentiment on places like Codex which use to be mostly supportive of him in the dedicated thread. This forum is one of the few places where people still generally  respect Trump and will sometimes give him the benefit of doubt 

My view on him hasnt really changed, he has had hits and misses but his misses are clearly undermining any good he has done. Of course it also doesnt matter what I think because Americans will decide his future and legacy when they vote. But he really needs to reverse things like tariffs which have negatively impacted the economy and inflation and the strict migration laws are also impacting domestic productivity in several states  

 

 

" Once the honeymoon is over, presidents tend to lose popularity quickly. But no recent president has fallen so low so quickly as Donald Trump. At the start of his second term public opinion was nearly evenly divided between those who approved of the president and those who did not. Things have since changed—his net approval is now lower than at any point in his first term. Rather than rebounding after the end of America’s longest ever government shutdown, Mr Trump’s popularity has continued to sink.

Americans are particularly dissatisfied with Mr Trump’s handling of inflation and the economy, two issues which were key to his re-election last November. Young and non-white voters, many of whom abandoned Democrats because of concerns about the cost of living, are now souring on Mr Trump faster than other groups. It was those voters who fuelled Democratic victories in governor elections in Virginia and New Jersey—an ominous sign for Republicans before next year’s midterm elections. "

 

 

[rjshae]

4 hours ago, BruceVC said:

My view on him hasnt really changed, he has had hits and misses but his misses are clearly undermining any good he has done. Of course it also doesnt matter what I think because Americans will decide his future and legacy when they vote. But he really needs to reverse things like tariffs which have negatively impacted the economy and inflation and the strict migration laws are also impacting domestic productivity in several states  

The tariffs are a major gamble because it is all but impossible to determine what the long-term impacts will be. The economy is too complex to predict that accurately. But it's clearly not a robust approach to improving the economy; that comes from factors like better education and sound investments, not from trying to wreck every other nation's economy. A better approach would have been to be selective in tariff application, only applying them for nascent industries that need time to mature. But now that they are in place, they are much more difficult to remove because other nations have applied counter-tariffs. I fear that, in the future, the tariffs will prove to be a major handicap for American competitiveness.

Extracting illegal immigration from the economy is always going to be difficult, and is bound to have a negative impact on the economy. He would have been better served to focus on border security; letting current immigrants become assimilated and grow economically. Overall, his policies are inflationary and damaging to the economy. Any possible benefits of tariffs will take years to express themselves, and removing immigrants will continue to have a negative effect (except perhaps for government costs). In the meantime, the country is in for more pain over the next few years.