The All Things Political Topic - SNAFU edition

[Pidesco]

1 hour ago, Hurlshort said:

Jesus. The complete waste of resources is what I think should be unifying people here. These guys are paid by taxpayer money to do what, exactly? 

A little authoritarianism. Just a little. 

[Malcador]

2 hours ago, Hurlshort said:

Jesus. The complete waste of resources is what I think should be unifying people here. These guys are paid by taxpayer money to do what, exactly? 

To satisfy the large number of Americans that dig uniformed men roughing up or intimidating people. See Noem, Patel, Bondi or Hegseth constantly trying to show how big their figurative penises are, it's how this show goes.

Related to that, what lame ass Operation name will they give the Venezuela job.  

[uuuhhii]

usa already have least cost effective military in the world

now they can have the least cost effective secret police too

[Gromnir]

7 hours ago, ShadySands said:

Carry out Trump's plan of grievance? Stamp out opposition? Own the libs?

I think fiscal conservatism only applies to "things we don't like" for the Republicans at the moment and it probably always was for a lot of them.. and they seem to be fine with the above reasons.

@Hurlshot is looking for rational and reasonable, but what too many people ain't figured out yet is that rational and reasonable is incidental concerns which 90% o' the time may be deflected with whataboutism or bible verse.  the remaining ten percent? the maga faithful, when confronted with clear evidence o' mistake and/or hypocrisy, will final admit, "nothing you say or do will change my mind." 

even before hillary's deplorables remark, libs like hurl made real americans feel shame. all too frequent you (not hurl specific, but libs in general,)  dismissed their beliefs as conspiracy theories and religious zealotry. recognizing that minorities commit more crime and are habitual leeching off o' government welfare programs is facts according to tucker carlson, but libs identify such truth telling as racist. real americans worked harder and got less every year, but libs ignored their problems and instead focused on providing free transition surgery to prisoners. etc.

hurl being annoyed and confused is the point.

immigrant suffering is also the point. precisely because immigrants is part of the them as opposed to the maga us, their suffering is justified and righteous. additional, hurl's impotent displeasure is in part why ice has videographers following around their ice teams. seeing them suffer is swell, but hurl qqing about the unnecessary cruelty is delicious.

children crying as their parents is detained with excessive force is the point... but hurl predictable complaining is also a motivating factor.

vol's transitive property stoopid which resulted in every act o' violence being the fault of blm and antifa has been coopted by the trump administration. 'ccording to 47, antifa is a terrorist organization.  if you suggest that a member o' the trump administration is fascist, authoritarian, or you accuse 'em of using unnecessary violence to achieve illegal government goals, then you are a member of antifa and as such a terrorist and an enemy of the state? hurl being outraged by this kinda stoopid is as much the point as is the genuine authoritarian effort to suppress dissent.

etc.

maga wants trump to lower prices of groceries, housing and healthcare, but they don't need it. what maga needs is for them to suffer and for hurl to complain without being able to do anything about it. 

HA! Good Fun!

 

[uuuhhii]

3 hours ago, Gromnir said:

@Hurlshot is looking for rational and reasonable, but what too many people ain't figured out yet is that rational and reasonable is incidental concerns which 90% o' the time may be deflected with whataboutism or bible verse.  the remaining ten percent? the maga faithful, when confronted with clear evidence o' mistake and/or hypocrisy, will final admit, "nothing you say or do will change my mind." 

even before hillary's deplorables remark, libs like hurl made real americans feel shame. all too frequent you (not hurl specific, but libs in general,)  dismissed their beliefs as conspiracy theories and religious zealotry. recognizing that minorities commit more crime and are habitual leeching off o' government welfare programs is facts according to tucker carlson, but libs identify such truth telling as racist. real americans worked harder and got less every year, but libs ignored their problems and instead focused on providing free transition surgery to prisoners. etc.

hurl being annoyed and confused is the point.

immigrant suffering is also the point. precisely because immigrants is part of the them as opposed to the maga us, their suffering is justified and righteous. additional, hurl's impotent displeasure is in part why ice has videographers following around their ice teams. seeing them suffer is swell, but hurl qqing about the unnecessary cruelty is delicious.

children crying as their parents is detained with excessive force is the point... but hurl predictable complaining is also a motivating factor.

vol's transitive property stoopid which resulted in every act o' violence being the fault of blm and antifa has been coopted by the trump administration. 'ccording to 47, antifa is a terrorist organization.  if you suggest that a member o' the trump administration is fascist, authoritarian, or you accuse 'em of using unnecessary violence to achieve illegal government goals, then you are a member of antifa and as such a terrorist and an enemy of the state? hurl being outraged by this kinda stoopid is as much the point as is the genuine authoritarian effort to suppress dissent.

etc.

maga wants trump to lower prices of groceries, housing and healthcare, but they don't need it. what maga needs is for them to suffer and for hurl to complain without being able to do anything about it. 

HA! Good Fun!

 

pretty sure someone on this forum once quoted this

 

A man catches a magical golden fish, who tells him: "I'm going to grant you a wish, any wish, but your neighbour will receive double what you get."

After thinking for a bit, the man says "I wish I was blind in one eye."

 

 

[Gorth]

Would it be tasteless of me to quote my signature here?

[uuuhhii]

does usa really want to do regime change on venezuela

the incompetence shown so far are impressive

they did syria so well not so long ago

[Malcador]

 

 

[Bartimaeus]

https://people.com/donald-trump-mistakes-dementia-screening-for-iq-test-11837935

Canadian neurologist Dr. Ziad Nasreddine, who created the MoCA test in 1996, told NBC News that the screening should not be used to measure intelligence.
"There are no studies showing that this test is correlated to IQ tests," Nasreddine said. "The purpose of it was not to determine persons who have a low IQ level. So we cannot say that this test reflects somebody's IQ.”

I always like it when news stories bother to add these "expert opinions" to stories like this, bonus points that it's literally the creator of the MoCA* this time - as if this is a serious story where we really need context to fully understand what all of this means, when actually...yeah, we know the guy is just a dumbass.

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Edited 13 hours ago by Bartimaeus

[BruceVC]

11 hours ago, Malcador said:

 

 

Yes its a horrific ongoing war and Im being generous if I say its gets 5% of the attention and outrage that the Palestinian vs Israeli conflict gets

And that includes attention and activism from Africa which is where you would expect to find the real concern

But there was attempts to pass UNSC resolutions last year declaring a ceasefire but Russia vetoed it, the only country that blocked the resolution 

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/11/25/un-russia-vetoes-sudan-resolution-despite-global-support

 

 

 

[Gromnir]

2 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

https://people.com/donald-trump-mistakes-dementia-screening-for-iq-test-11837935

Canadian neurologist Dr. Ziad Nasreddine, who created the MoCA test in 1996, told NBC News that the screening should not be used to measure intelligence.
"There are no studies showing that this test is correlated to IQ tests," Nasreddine said. "The purpose of it was not to determine persons who have a low IQ level. So we cannot say that this test reflects somebody's IQ.”

I always like it when news stories bother to add these "expert opinions" to stories like this, bonus points that it's literally the creator of the MoCA* this time - as if this is a serious story where we really need context to fully understand what all of this means, when actually...yeah, we know the guy is just a dumbass.

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"Trump has unveiled a number of moves aimed at cutting drug prices in recent months, but he has yet to move the needle on reducing costs – much less slashing them by 1,500%, which is mathematically impossible, experts say."

...

experts say? experts? why not just ask a random fourth grader?

 

am curious why the obvious question regarding the MoCA administered by walter reed doctors as part o' a trump exam is never asked: why did doctors feel it were prudent to have trump take the MoCA? is not a standard test for seventy-somethings. the fact doctors had trump take the test should be worrisome to people, but somehow that fact gets lost. tell us that his most recent PET scan is clear wouldn't raise alarms? 'course you would be curious as to why he were getting PET scans, right? PET scans is not routine. MoCA is similar not ordinary. trump bragging about acing the test is signature trump stoopid, but it should concern everybody that doctors had reason to administer the test.

we were in the room when the test were administered to our +80 father following his TIA. 

*shrug*

keep in mind that the media mocking trump for his ignorance and stoopidity is one o' the reasons he is so popular, as insane as that sounds. maga is about outrage and grievance... maga is the real victims in 2025. the perception that smarty-pants libs has been mocking working class americans for their lack o' education is one reason why they vote for trump.  47 is overt ignorant, unapologetically bigoted... and he is a winner. is a curiously seductive combination for too many americans.

trump is using his voters and likely hates 'em, but maga loves trump 'cause he is their retribution.

https://www.c-span.org/clip/campaign-2024/user-clip-i-am-your-retribution/5100721

maga identifies with trump not in spite o' his ignorance and bigotry but 'cause o' such. maga loves trump 'cause he is shameless and vindictive.

lord help us.

HA! Good Fun!

 

[Malcador]

7 hours ago, BruceVC said:

Yes its a horrific ongoing war and Im being generous if I say its gets 5% of the attention and outrage that the Palestinian vs Israeli conflict gets

And that includes attention and activism from Africa which is where you would expect to find the real concern

But there was attempts to pass UNSC resolutions last year declaring a ceasefire but Russia vetoed it, the only country that blocked the resolution 

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/11/25/un-russia-vetoes-sudan-resolution-despite-global-support

 

 

 

Maybe someone should lean on the UAE to stop funding the RSF.

[BruceVC]

1 hour ago, Malcador said:

Maybe someone should lean on the UAE to stop funding the RSF.

Yes there is interference from several countries that include the UAE and Russia and they all have vested interests in the war continuing but the 2 Sudanese  factions fighting it are the  main problem 

But the real disappointment for me is this should be something that the AU resolves but its toothless. Very good at rhetoric and podium statements but terrible at implementation of its own policies

Africa cannot realize its full potential until the likes of the AU is effective and consistent

So failing that we constantly fall back on the UN to resolve Africa's problems with mixed results. And then if a UNSC is vetoed you  see nothing constructive 

Unfortunately Trumps direct intervention and transactional approach to geopolitics has more success in several conflicts than the UNSC but the US has no interests in this Sudan war so I cant see the US intervening unless asked?