Ivan the Terrible Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 Has there ever, in the history of Star Wars, been an explanation as to Emperor Palpatine's background? How'd he get recruited into the Sith? How did he manage to disguise his power long enough to seize control of the Republic and forge an Empire? For a guy who dominates so much of the series, he's a pretty impressive mystery. I made this half-pony half-monkey monster to please you But I get the feeling that you don't like it What's with all the screaming? You like monkeys, you like ponies Maybe you don't like monsters so much Maybe I used too many monkeys Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
nightcleaver Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 I think EU has an answer to that one. I'm fairly certain he learned all he did about the force from Holocron's.
sniggy Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 palpatine was a senator of naboo. early in his career, he strived only to have power in the senate, yet as he got hold of an old sith holocron, he started his journey into the dark side. he didn't get recruited by anyone. It's very hard to be polite if you're a cat.
Ivan the Terrible Posted June 11, 2004 Author Posted June 11, 2004 palpatine was a senator of naboo. early in his career, he strived only to have power in the senate, yet as he got hold of an old sith holocron, he started his journey into the dark side. he didn't get recruited by anyone. I know the Senator from Naboo part (I hope when he took over the Empire, he hunted Gungans to extinction.) But the Sith holocron thing....wasn't the rule, after Darth Bane, that there were to be two Sith, a Master and Apprentice, and they would carry on the Sith tradition? I thought he was just the heir to that long line of Sith plotting and scheming to seize control? If he isn't, does that mean that the Sith line died off completely at some point and he restarted it? I made this half-pony half-monkey monster to please you But I get the feeling that you don't like it What's with all the screaming? You like monkeys, you like ponies Maybe you don't like monsters so much Maybe I used too many monkeys Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
sniggy Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 the EU isn't clear on the master n apprentice thing with palpatine. what is known however, is that the emperor possessed both a sith and a jedi holocron, the latter being stolen from him by skywalker. as to his origin before naboo... well, just compare this pic with the one above... It's very hard to be polite if you're a cat.
sniggy Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 addition: by the time of his first death, he is 88 years old. in episode 2, he is 52 years old. due to his interest in archeology, palpatine studied the ruins in korriban and is likely to have met with a sith ghost there. PS: oh yeah, got the info from SW databank, the unofficial encyclopedia and wikipedia. It's very hard to be polite if you're a cat.
sniggy Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 did you know... ...that the word "sith" is celtic for "fairy"? It's very hard to be polite if you're a cat.
Child of Flame Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 did you know... ...that the word "sith" is celtic for "fairy"? Just don't make a comparison between the Sithies and my beloved Harvey.
sniggy Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 whahaha... why, i wouldn't dream of it. ONE problem i do have with the sith though, especially with KOTOR: "only two there are - master and apprentice" well, right-o, only problem is: this rule was introduced with darth bane, 2000 years before the movies. KOTOR however was even before that time. so why did malak "grudgingly" took the role of the apprentice? there was no need to do so- they just could have been sith equals. It's very hard to be polite if you're a cat.
Kdy-worker 1138 Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 While we are at the general Star Wars questions. Why would the Jedi
DemonKing Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 so why did malak "grudgingly" took the role of the apprentice? there was no need to do so- they just could have been sith equals. I presume because he still needed to learn from a master...just because there were more than two Sith in this period doesn't mean you don't have to learn your skills/powers from someone more knowledgeable than yourself. Hence the Sith training grounds you visit.
Yoda Tokare Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 Before he find the holocron, is he a force adept? Always two there are, the light side and the dark side - prostytutka
Indalecio Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 I think he learned of the Sith by browsing the Holonet. Maybe he also picked up "Sith For Dummies" off of Amazon. Maybe Palpatine's a very old Sith. Having transferred his essence from decaying body to a fresh one every now and then. If you go by EU, the Emperor had his own personal cloning facilities.
Catscratch Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 Definitely Master-Apprentice relation doesn't start with Bandon, considering KOTOR.
PnGuin Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 As to the original question "Has there ever, in the history of Star Wars, been an explanation as to Emperor Palpatine's background?" the StarWars.com Databank has some pretty good material about the history and origins of Palpatine. Here is a link that might be helpful ... http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/palpatine/?id=eu
Quiquag Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 the EU isn't clear on the master n apprentice thing with palpatine. what is known however, is that the emperor possessed both a sith and a jedi holocron, the latter being stolen from him by skywalker. as to his origin before naboo... well, just compare this pic with the one above... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Thats hilarious. Anyway I think the "there can only be two a master and an apprentice" doesn't mean there can only be two Sith in the entire galaxy. The Jedi have the same code, but there are a lot of Jedi. The "only two" rule means that a master can not take on 2 or 3 apprentices, it doesnt limit the amount of Sith. If you think about it, its not even safe to just have two Sith....what if their ship exploded....the Sith Empire would just fall.
Dr. Lobotomy Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 so why did malak "grudgingly" took the role of the apprentice? there was no need to do so- they just could have been sith equals. I presume because he still needed to learn from a master...just because there were more than two Sith in this period doesn't mean you don't have to learn your skills/powers from someone more knowledgeable than yourself. Hence the Sith training grounds you visit. Simplify man! Darth Malak was "grudgingly" being the apprentice of Revan because there can be only one head honcho in an organization such as the sith deal Revan had going.
nightcleaver Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 And Malak knew it was no good to fight it. Revan was the leader, even if a fair number thought Malak was. It seemed like Revan knew a considerable bit more about the Sith and such before Malak, so he could teach Malak. Well, if the above theory is true, who was Revan's master?
Indalecio Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 Well, if the above theory is true, who was Revan's master? Sith Holocron? Probably was one lying around. There always is. Which is strange, I think. The Sith don't seemed to be geared toward artifice, nor particularly interested in sharing their knowledge.
Meshugger Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 I think EU has an answer to that one. I'm fairly certain he learned all he did about the force from Holocron's. That sounds a bit too shallow and far-fetched to me. It must be more to it. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Darth Jebus Posted June 11, 2004 Posted June 11, 2004 Sidious was the apprentice to Darth Bask. He betrayed Bask and, well..here Disclaimer: I have no idea how "official this is or not" http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Navron
steelfiredragon Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 ahh..... so some else thinks that pulpatine and darth sidious were the same. however, palpatine might have been older the 80+, the senetor from naboo might have been the clone, since we all know the pulpatine had his very own cloning device , thathe got on his 20th birthday from marka ragnos, he could have cloned many more of his evil seed than just the ones we know of.(for instance the one that said vader was a sick man in a mask) Strength through Mercy Head Torturor of the Cult of the Anti-gnome
Weiser_Cain Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 ahh..... so some else thinks that pulpatine and darth sidious were the same. however, palpatine might have been older the 80+, the senetor from naboo might have been the clone, since we all know the pulpatine had his very own cloning device , thathe got on his 20th birthday from marka ragnos, he could have cloned many more of his evil seed than just the ones we know of.(for instance the one that said vader was a sick man in a mask) I was under the impression that palpatine became his clones, he'd whip up a clone killhimself then posses the clone, then Bob's your uncle he's sexy again... Yaw devs, Yaw!!! (
Judge Hades Posted June 12, 2004 Posted June 12, 2004 That is how it worked in the Dark Horse aDark Empire comics, but then again that is a bit left field of canon.
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