The All Things Political Topic - What's Going On...?

[BruceVC]

10 hours ago, rjshae said:

When he loses it tends to happen in the lower courts, then win when it is taken to the SCOTUS, the final authority. The difference is that the lower courts are populated by both liberal and conservative justices selected by various Presidents, whereas the SCOTUS is majority conservative with three of its members selected by DJT. What shouldn't be happening is so many of his decisions needing to be validated by the court system. It seems to be part of DJT's personality to try and skirt legal restrictions as much as possible.

What will be particularly interesting is whether his tariff packages survives appeal at the SCOTUS. Technically it shouldn't, since the required emergency conditions just don't exist.

Yes but Trump is still not able to decide on a new law or EO  and tomorrow its implemented because these things do get challenged all the time in the courts

In a real authoritarian state like Russia no court will challenge anything Putin wants, they exist to rubberstamp anything he decides

There is no  judicial independence in an authoritarian state and that still exists in the US 

[BruceVC]

10 hours ago, rjshae said:

When he loses it tends to happen in the lower courts, then win when it is taken to the SCOTUS, the final authority. The difference is that the lower courts are populated by both liberal and conservative justices selected by various Presidents, whereas the SCOTUS is majority conservative with three of its members selected by DJT. What shouldn't be happening is so many of his decisions needing to be validated by the court system. It seems to be part of DJT's personality to try and skirt legal restrictions as much as possible.

What will be particularly interesting is whether his tariff packages survives appeal at the SCOTUS. Technically it shouldn't, since the required emergency conditions just don't exist.

Yes but Trump is still not able to decide on a new law or EO  and tomorrow its implemented because these things do get challenged all the time in the courts

In a real authoritarian state like Russia no court will challenge anything Putin wants, they exist to rubberstamp anything he decides

There is no  judicial independence in an authoritarian state and that still exists in the US 

[BruceVC]

9 hours ago, Hurlshort said:

Looks like Jimmy Kimmel is coming back Wednesday, which is was either the plan all along, or Disney desperately trying to hit the undo button after getting lambasted by everyone that isn't on Team Maga. My guess is the latter.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/22/entertainment/jimmy-kimmel-returning

Its good news, Disney overreacted and some ABC affiliated shows wont broadcast him but he is back

 

"Disney tried to explain its decision-making in a Monday afternoon statement announcing Kimmel’s return.

“Last Wednesday, we made the decision to suspend production on the show to avoid further inflaming a tense situation at an emotional moment for our country,” the Disney statement said. “It is a decision we made because we felt some of the comments were ill-timed and thus insensitive. We have spent the last days having thoughtful conversations with Jimmy, and after those conversations, we reached the decision to return the show on Tuesday.”

[Lexx]

Translation: The lawyers were sharpening their knives and Disney caved, because despite their resources, they wouldn't be able to win. 

Edited 11 hours ago by Lexx

[Zoraptor]

Doubt it was lawyers. Disney would have been able to pay out contracts, if they had to, from their loose change. They may- very much the conditional may- have been obligated to pay for the show, they'd not have been obligated to show it same way a bunch of their MAGA aligned stations won't be showing it*.

Far more likely it was the cascade of awful publicity and people threatening to cancel Disney+ and the like. Not all that often you're going to have Ted Cruz, Jon Stewart and Bill Maher agree on something let alone the parade of TV and movie types criticising it.

*I particularly liked this line from their press release: "Sinclair also calls upon Mr. Kimmel to issue a direct apology to the Kirk family. Furthermore, we ask Mr. Kimmel to make a meaningful personal donation to the Kirk Family and Turning Point USA." Very Trumpian, demanding an apology and a bung.

Edited 10 hours ago by Zoraptor

[majestic]

An apology to the Kirk family, lol. His "bereft" wife was on air after the assassination, scoring cult brownie points in an inflammatory speech trying to turn her late husband into a martyr, exactly the sort of thing a mourning widow would do directly after losing her husband and father of her children. Especially a mourning widow from a traditional family the way Charlie Kirk argued for. 99% of right-wing whining is projection. Or as we say here: "So wie der Schelm ist, so denkt er auch von anderen." - meaning, very loosely, it takes one to know one.

Although Kash Patel still takes the take. I'll see you in Valhalla bro has to be the dumbest line of 2025 (coming from the director of the FBI), and it's a year where Trump said a lot and renamed the Gulf of Mexico and the Department of Defense. 

[BruceVC]

1 hour ago, Zoraptor said:

Doubt it was lawyers. Disney would have been able to pay out contracts, if they had to, from their loose change. They may- very much the conditional may- have been obligated to pay for the show, they'd not have been obligated to show it same way a bunch of their MAGA aligned stations won't be showing it*.

Far more likely it was the cascade of awful publicity and people threatening to cancel Disney+ and the like. Not all that often you're going to have Ted Cruz, Jon Stewart and Bill Maher agree on something let alone the parade of TV and movie types criticising it.

*I particularly liked this line from their press release: "Sinclair also calls upon Mr. Kimmel to issue a direct apology to the Kirk family. Furthermore, we ask Mr. Kimmel to make a meaningful personal donation to the Kirk Family and Turning Point USA." Very Trumpian, demanding an apology and a bung.

Yes I would assume it was the  massive backlash from the initial  decision that Disney took

But also ABC didnt cancel his show, they just suspended it and it and it could have just been temporarily strategic because of how tense everything was

Wait at least for the funeral to end and then bring Kimmel back 

[Lexx]

And nobody is surprised.

[majestic]

Yeah, rumor has it most trans-prostitutes are also fairly booked out whenever a Republican congress is in town. It's weird, almost like projection is a right-winger's game.  

[Malcador]

Trump's UN speech is something else, is tiptoeing on calling for ethnic purity or something, lol