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France - Spain final was dramatic. Spain looks like they have it though

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At the minimum we can say these Olympics gave us this moment: 

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Should have been silver at the worst. I still don't understand how in the brackets we ended up playing the US for the finals and even there the judging was atrocious and looking at who the main judge was explains a lot. Either way, we showed that we are close to the best if not the best in the world in basketball (especially if the US blows out France) and we do that with an all Serbian team, not by buying good players.

I am a little salty...

Well on to the waterpolo finals. If we lose to Croatia we will not hear the end of it...

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One thing I do appreciate about the garbage can man (aka Kevin Durant) is that he has consistently shown up for the Olympics over his career. And I don't just mean that he played well, but rather that he actually committed to playing for the team, which is something that a lot of our stars have often declined to do. Though LeBron claims MVP of the tournament, Durant has been instrumental in leading team USA to 4 straight gold medals, which is actually a pretty rare feat for Olympic athletes.

I think Serbia was the second best team, but it's always been the case that the two best teams can meet earlier in a playoff tourney than right at the end, it's just sometimes how it works out.

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It's just funny how France ended up in the other side of the bracket from the main threat for a bunch of competitions.

Overall I agree that team USA was the stronger team and that we needed to hit the shots in the last quarter, but the judges helped pushed the momentum the other way.

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First real success of our new waterpolo representation since the last Olympics. Let's hope this is the restart of our dominance in the sport.

"because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP

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#1 suggestion for future Olympic Games: have a unified West Indies team like in cricket. I feel that St Lucia and Dominica in particular would benefit from this arrangement.

This suggestion has nothing to do with the per capita medal table and I would stridently refute any implication that it does.

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6 hours ago, Sarex said:

First real success of our new waterpolo representation since the last Olympics. Let's hope this is the restart of our dominance in the sport.

How many Croats did you guys drown ?

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And, to be completely uncontroversial, Taiwan's two golds as well?

(The eligibility rules for what constitutes a country for Olympic purposes are really weird. OK, so you probably don't want RoChina athletes being forced to compete as PRChinese or Palestinian being forced to compete as Israeli (or vice versa) or refugees being forced to compete for the countries they're refugees from but... Puerto Rico? Guam? American Samoa? Hong Kong? England/ Scotland/ Wales as GB, but Northern Irish compete as Ireland*; and the British Virgin Islands compete separately?

*happens in rugby too, hence the Irish team's 'national anthem' being Ireland's Call in rugby rather than Amhrán na bhFiann)

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Excellent Olympics and very well supported around global media attention and fans of these prestigious sports event. 

The only real  " criticism " for me was some of the opening ceremony and parts of it being controversial but that was  a small part of the success of this French Olympics 

I watched some real achievements and examples of sports excellence

Final medal count was exciting and very close between the US and China with both countries getting 40 gold medals but the US winning overall with 126  total medals vs Chinas 91 

And nice to see the host country winning 16 gold medals and 64 total medals so well done to France as well 

https://olympics.com/en/paris-2024/medals

 

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9 hours ago, Malcador said:

How many Croats did you guys drown ?

The whole nation. They were pretty sure they were gonna win, giving statements like "the doors of heaven are opened to us". 😂

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I did not watch any of the Olympics, but YouTube kept throwing videos re: that breakdancer RayGun into my face. I didn't even know breakdancing was in the Olympics. Do they still do "dream teams" vs. amateurs? I stopped watching when it was no longer even technically amateurs.

 

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2 hours ago, LadyCrimson said:

I did not watch any of the Olympics, but YouTube kept throwing videos re: that breakdancer RayGun into my face. I didn't even know breakdancing was in the Olympics. Do they still do "dream teams" vs. amateurs? I stopped watching when it was no longer even technically amateurs.

 

It was a new addition for this Olympics, and also it's not going to be back in 2028 (though that doesn't necessarily preclude it from returning at some later date; it was decided against for 2028 before the 2024 Olympics even started).

I always thought the "amateurs only" rule was silly. Let's have a competition to determine who are the best...buuut let's not include the people that, you know, actually get paid to be the best to do it. And let's ignore that all the Eastern bloc countries were effectively skirting around that restriction by having their governments be the ones who were training, funding, and supporting their top athletes, while we give all the best Western athletes the boot because it was private businesses instead. Farcical. No, we won't ever have an our-amateurs-beating-their-professionals a la the Miracle on Ice again, but that shouldn't have ever been a thing in the first place.

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In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.

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^ Oh, yeah, I get that if half the folks are going to "cheat"/skirt around the amateur rules, like big companies skirting/loopholeing their way out of taxes or regulations or whatever, and nothing can be done to (long term/forever) stop it, it's kind of pointless/gets really circular to fuss over it, especially for something like entertainment.  And I also wasn't against loosening some restrictions re: having been paid for a few things, like at least ad sponsership if nothing else (wasn't that disallowed at one point?). Training is expensive.

But for me it was more interesting to watch, relatively speaking, lesser knowns compete against each other then maybe "the last three winners of the Tour de France duke it out in the Olympics." I guess Olympics to me wasn't really about current best in the world, it was more sort of about discovering the potentials for the new crop of best in the worlds. Edit: maybe that's an odd way to look at them, but that's more why I watched, when I'm not much of a watch-sports person.

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It's not really a dream team scenario anymore, as countries have caught up in sports like Basketball. Sure, the US has a lot of depth, but Serbia had the best player this year.

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