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2 hours ago, Sarex said:

@PK htiw klaw eriF I would still take this as a plus one to the riders of the apocalypse.

I mean it's a more positive reception than I expected, but unfortunately I think we have to delay the apocalypse for now. Hopefully @InsaneCommander comes back, because I'm pretty sure he'd dig Dandadan and I'd like to end the world on a reasonable timeline.

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"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands

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6 hours ago, Sarex said:

@PK htiw klaw eriF I would still take this as a plus one to the riders of the apocalypse.

I guess this is what I deserve for trying to be polite for the folk currently enjoying the show instead of going "this is the worst thing I've ever seen in my whole life" as would typically be more my style, so let me be a little more clear: I liked what I saw of Frieren a bit more than the first episode I saw of Dandadan, and I rather disliked Frieren. If it in any way proves helpful, here is a short and simple rating system of a number of modern anime shows I've seen thanks to some of the fine folk on the Obsidian forums:

Season 1 of Spy x Family: 7/10
Vampire in the Garden: 6.5/10
Girls' Last Tour: 6.5/10
Season 1 of One Punch Man: 6/10
Season 1 of K-ON!: 5.5/10
Some episodes of Frieren: 4.5/10
Mostly fast-forwarded Devilman Crybaby: 4/10
Episode 1 of Dandadan: 3.5/10

Don't mistake me not acting a petulant bastard as feeling in any way positive towards something, some things just merit stronger words on my part more than others, :p.

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How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart.

In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.

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2 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

I guess this is what I deserve for trying to be polite for the folk currently enjoying the show instead of going "this is the worst thing I've ever seen in my whole life" as would typically be more my style, so let me be a little more clear: I liked what I saw of Frieren a bit more than the first episode I saw of Dandadan, and I rather disliked Frieren. If it in any way proves helpful, here is a short and simple rating system of a number of modern anime shows I've seen thanks to some of the fine folk on the Obsidian forums:

I was just joking. :) Also a disclaimer that the following is not an attempt to get you to watch more of it, but this show is genreless. It goes from Comedy to Action to Horror to Drama to Idol to Mystery to idk, which would lead you to think that it would suck at all of them, but it just knocks it out of the park every time.

Also I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but the mangaka for Dandadan started out as an assistant to the mangaka of Chainsaw Man.

 

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The Boy and the Heron. The man does not miss, how he makes magic come alive is something truly marvelous. Makes me wanna rewatch all of his movies again.

"because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP

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Dandadan ep 2 - Attack of the Sumo Alien-Ghost

Still going strong. It's very kinetic and stylish, it would have been easier to make the banana pilfering alien a cgi monstrosity out of a 10-year old videogame like many anime do, but by god this looks so much better. And going to black and white is a power move so I'm happy.

Also feels like they did a speedrun on Shinji's multi-saga arc with The Other Ken Takakura in like 2 episodes. We'll see how things go after he reclaims his......manly essence from the Turbo Granny.

18 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

Mostly fast-forwarded Devilman Crybaby: 4/10
Episode 1 of Dandadan: 3.5/10

Given that they're made by the same studio that isn't surprising. Ngl, I very much enjoyed both on a visual level but I did not reccomend Dandadan to you because if you had a seizure I did not want to be held liable or get drug to hell by a demon you summoned.

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"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands

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Guys, with all that talk of the apocalypse and all, do you guys remember the entire reason we're active in this thread? We watched the only universally beloved anime in the thread (well, except for the season with the pedophile alicorn) and we're all still here, so... uh. I don't think @PK htiw klaw eriF's dislike of the end of season five makes such a difference. Kinda... dunno. I mean, I'm all for ending the world, but, you know. It ain't gonna happen because it ain't happened already?

No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering.

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50 minutes ago, majestic said:

Guys, with all that talk of the apocalypse and all, do you guys remember the entire reason we're active in this thread?

They got mad at us for posting in the TV thread and resurrected an AMV dumping ground to seal us away.

51 minutes ago, majestic said:

I mean, I'm all for ending the world, but, you know. It ain't gonna happen because it ain't happened already?

That just means we haven't been trying hard enough. Have you learned nothing from the many filler episodes of Sailor Moon? Would the professor have given up just because his monster of the week failed to do.....honestly I forgot what he was up to in s3 besides maniacal laughter, but he didn't give up until he was forced to retire. The point is we should continue to try until it happens. As someone once said to Maggie Thatcher: "We only have to get lucky once".

"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands

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3 hours ago, majestic said:

Guys, with all that talk of the apocalypse and all, do you guys remember the entire reason we're active in this thread? We watched the only universally beloved anime in the thread (well, except for the season with the pedophile alicorn) and we're all still here, so... uh. I don't think @PK htiw klaw eriF's dislike of the end of season five makes such a difference. Kinda... dunno. I mean, I'm all for ending the world, but, you know. It ain't gonna happen because it ain't happened already?

Meh, we’ll all get isekaied into some obscenely long titled mess once the dust of the apocalypse settles 😝

 

I call dibs on the harem!

“He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
 

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2 hours ago, PK htiw klaw eriF said:

That just means we haven't been trying hard enough. Have you learned nothing from the many filler episodes of Sailor Moon? Would the professor have given up just because his monster of the week failed to do.....honestly I forgot what he was up to in s3 besides maniacal laughter, but he didn't give up until he was forced to retire. The point is we should continue to try until it happens. As someone once said to Maggie Thatcher: "We only have to get lucky once".

I'm genuinely at a loss for what Professor Tomoe was trying to accomplish in season 3/S as well. Find the Pure Crystal Hearts...and...uh, something something, Hotaru turns into Black Lady, which he wants because...I don't even know? I think he was possessed by either demons or aliens that probably wanted to take over the world, because that's pretty much always the main plot outside of the filler arcs. Also, wait, not Black Lady, because Black Lady was Chibi-Usa's evil form... My knowledge of Sailor Moon's main story mostly revolves around remembering some of the minions and the stupid macguffins they were always after. I think Chibi-Usa and the baddies were after Usagi's Silver Crystal thingy in season 2, the Pure Heart Crystals (which probably lead to something else but who cares what) in season 3, and the...beautiful dreams in season 4? Which also probably lead to something else, but I have no idea what. Like, I remember the Amazoness Quartet turning against Nehellenia in SuperS, the cat lady (Roan, Koan?) & company turning against the phantom guy in R, or Naru losing her dream king guy...because those are things that actually happened and had character moments attached to their occurrences, but I have no idea what anyone was really trying to do.

Except for Ail and An in the filler season 2 arc, I guess: they were just confused, because their demon tree from the netherworld apparently ran exclusively on love, trust, and good feelings, contrary to what you (and apparently they) would expect, so trying to feed it humans just wasn't really going to work out. Whoops.

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In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.

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1 hour ago, Bartimaeus said:

I'm genuinely at a loss for what Professor Tomoe was trying to accomplish in season 3/S as well

What I remember about the Professor is that he said he hasn't kissed in a very long time and immediately started laughing so hard he broke a beaker. Truly a VolCel king.

Sailor Moon, the 90's anime at least, generally worked best with the filler episodes because the canon plot is kinda dumb. Who cares what BLACK LADY was trying to do when you have 20+ episodes of Usagi and the gang being silly gooses? I don't.

1 hour ago, Gorth said:

Meh, we’ll all get isekaied into some obscenely long titled mess once the dust of the apocalypse settles 😝

 

I call dibs on the harem!

I'm pretty sure if we get Isekaied we're going to go on a journey to Not-Egypt to fight a hundred year old vampire gym god. Half of us are going to die horribly, but it's the memories we make on the way that count.

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"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands

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6 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

I'm genuinely at a loss for what Professor Tomoe was trying to accomplish in season 3/S as well. Find the Pure Crystal Hearts...and...uh, something something, Hotaru turns into Black Lady, which he wants because...I don't even know? I think he was possessed by either demons or aliens that probably wanted to take over the world, because that's pretty much always the main plot outside of the filler arcs. Also, wait, not Black Lady, because Black Lady was Chibi-Usa's evil form... My knowledge of Sailor Moon's main story mostly revolves around remembering some of the minions and the stupid macguffins they were always after.

Professor Tomoe was looking for the three talismans to turn Hotaru into MISTRESS 9 in order to bring PHARAO 90 into our dimension. It is no wonder you guys cannot remember any of that, this is the closest the anime ever got to actually implementing most of the hare-brained plot of the manga, where the difference is mostly in that it is Sailor Saturn who destroys PHARAO 90 by bringing about the apocalypse in PHARAO 90's dimension, while in the anime it's just Sailor Moon who goes to PHARAO 90 and beats him (?) up off-screen just to drive home how ridiculous it all really is.

Things the anime chose to drop in favor of not sucking is Haruka kissing a flabbergasted Usagi without consent and Hotaru's butt-plug shaped crystal thing, and a number of other little things like Setsuna's orbital ion cannon.

5 hours ago, PK htiw klaw eriF said:

Sailor Moon, the 90's anime at least, generally worked best with the filler episodes because the canon plot is kinda dumb. Who cares what BLACK LADY was trying to do when you have 20+ episodes of Usagi and the gang being silly gooses? I don't.

Black Lady wanted her father, and you know, the manga implies she got him in every way she wanted. At the very least she got his tongue in her mouth. In front of Usagi. Because that's just really good and wholesome entertainment and all. :yes:

7 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

Except for Ail and An in the filler season 2 arc, I guess: they were just confused, because their demon tree from the netherworld apparently ran exclusively on love, trust, and good feelings, contrary to what you (and apparently they) would expect, so trying to feed it humans just wasn't really going to work out. Whoops.

It's funny how the two filler arcs in Sailor Moon ended up being some of the best storytelling it had. The Doom Tree plot was simple but genuinely heartfelt, and the reuse of Nehelennia in Stars was actually fairly decent, if a bit weird at times since it references things that never happened in the anime (like Minako being the leader of the team).

After reading half the manga and watching Crystal, I have realized one thing: the writers did the best job they could with the anime, and all of its flaws are remnants of being an adaptation of something so bad that I have no idea why it was so successful. Except Super S. That had to be on purpose. I'm pretty sure Ikuhara made the season as a giant middle finger to Toei. The next time I'm rewatching the 90ies anime I'll probably appreciate the story episodes much more than I used to.

In the same way I no longer hate Janeway's stupid writing in Voyager after subjecting myself to nuTrek. It is still bad, yes, and she's still a basket case and should be in psychiatric care for bipolar disorder and not running a starship, but it could be worse. Oh so much worse.

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Need to re-read and re-watch Silent Mobius. The differences are so radical that it was jarring when I first read the manga after the anime, even if I knew the anime didn't complete the manga run. I also will say, it's sad that Silent Mobius came out around the same time as Bubblegum Crisis and has the pacing and mood whiplash issues it has since there's some good ideas in it.

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Watched second episode of Dandadan.... 😂

 

It's back weirder, wilder and wackier. Occult-kun (aka Ken Takakura and now renamed to Okarun because his real name drives Momos nuts) is still missing his weenie, so Momo brings his home to her grandmothers place where he almost got burnt to a crisp by said grandmothers wards and then both of them gets beset by an alien, as they haven't given up their ambitions of seizing bananas (we come on peace, give us your bananas!) 👽

 

Just a good laugh through and through. No higher brain functions required 😁

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Watched third episode of Dandadan. Momo is in denial about her feelings for "Okarun" and we get introduced to her grandmother. Her baseball bad is, if possible, even bigger than her attitude :unsure:

A bit more backstory on grandma as well as "Turbo Granny", who stole Okarun's weenie. Turns out these old ladies, grandma and turbo granny both, are "territorial" and strongest on their home turf.

“He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
 

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Rewatching Ben-To, and it's glorious 😄

Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken

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40 minutes ago, uuuhhii said:

 

op is amazing

light novel ended decade ago and not very popular

so no season 2

It's unfortunate, but I can make do with rewatching it, I don't feel it needs a second season really. I would rather see more One Punch, Gushing over Magical girls, Ayakashi Triangle, Girls und Panzer, Eminence in Shadow, Magical Girl Spec Ops Asuka and the list goes on 😄

Edit; Then again, I wished for more of Devil is a part-timer, and I wholly regret watching that, dear god was that animation cursed compared to S1

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Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken

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Dandadan ep 4 - The End of ZA WARUDO Turbo Granny

It's a very fast paced action episode that climaxes in a much different way than expected. As has been par for the series so far it's just incredibly visually striking, some of the best animated sequences I've seen in quite some time are in this episode. Though it's kinda telegraphed that there's something wrong with Okarun's..........Manly Essence and I guess we'll see just what that is.

"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands

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4 hours ago, PK htiw klaw eriF said:

Dandadan ep 4 - The End of ZA WARUDO Turbo Granny

It's a very fast paced action episode that climaxes in a much different way than expected. As has been par for the series so far it's just incredibly visually striking, some of the best animated sequences I've seen in quite some time are in this episode. Though it's kinda telegraphed that there's something wrong with Okarun's..........Manly Essence and I guess we'll see just what that is.

Maybe it was chewed on for too long by turbo granny 🤔

“He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
 

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On 10/25/2024 at 3:26 AM, PK htiw klaw eriF said:

Dandadan ep 4 - The End of ZA WARUDO Turbo Granny

It's a very fast paced action episode that climaxes in a much different way than expected. As has been par for the series so far it's just incredibly visually striking, some of the best animated sequences I've seen in quite some time are in this episode. Though it's kinda telegraphed that there's something wrong with Okarun's..........Manly Essence and I guess we'll see just what that is.

Did you look at the after credits preview?

"because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP

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On 10/26/2024 at 3:36 AM, Sarex said:

New chapter of Berserk is out and it's a banger.

Just read it on break. We're so back.

On 10/27/2024 at 12:05 PM, Sarex said:

Did you look at the after credits preview?

No, I like to be surprised.

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"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands

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Watched fifth episode of Dandadan... got to say, Momo rolling around on the floor laughing was contagious 🤣

 

Where are his balls indeed... yup, cat got his balls 😝

 

 

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