Anime and Manga - How do you Live? Edition

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

1 hour ago, Bartimaeus said:

Truly my favorite part of Rebuild:

I think that ultimately my favorite part is the extended Shinji depression (and re-entry into the world) in the last movie, because it's probably a better illustration of how coping with grief looks and feels like than going to HIP therapy or turning the world into orange liquid.

[Bartimaeus]

(The joke was that this "scene" is part of the preview for the next episode, but what they thought was going to be in the next Rebuild film kept wildly changing so all the stuff that appeared in those previews never actually happened, so that picture is just nonsense.)

IIRC, @majestic's favorite bit was the tea party(?) Rei threw in the second Rebuild film, while my favorite bit...was when it was over. Okay, not including that, and not including the funny misleading/erroneous previews, my favorite part was when they were all just chilling in that post-apocalypse village in...I think the fourth film - it didn't even feel like I was really watching Evangelion during that section, which was a welcome reprieve from everything before and after. Just a sudden departure to a totally different tone and style, no yelling and screaming or seizure-inducing animation. So my favorite part might also be your favorite part based on what you said, though I'm not 100% sure because I'm not sure if that section happened in the third or the fourth movie.

Edited September 27 by Bartimaeus

[majestic]

I seem to have a thing for tea parties, huh? The tea party in Noir was my favorite bit of the series too.

6 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

my favorite part was when they were all just chilling in that post-apocalypse village in...I think the fourth film - it didn't even feel like I was really watching Evangelion during that section, which was a welcome reprieve from everything before and after.

That was a really good scene, at least until Rei just dissolved into goo to drive home a point which retroactively ruined it for me.

[Lexx]

Watched the NieR Automata anime. Actually wasn't that bad, but at some point the story got so confusing, I kinda checked out.

[uuuhhii]

41 minutes ago, Lexx said:

Watched the NieR Automata anime. Actually wasn't that bad, but at some point the story got so confusing, I kinda checked out.

 

is the fan service still good in later episode

[Lexx]

Well, it's a lot less sexual than I expected it to be. Of course they can't help themselves and have to add a bunch of scenes where the camera slips under the skirt. Also beach episode, because yes.

Still think it could be a lot worse.

Note: I never played the game(s) and know nothing more about it. Was lol when they explained the blindfolds are actually "special visors" ... yeah, right.

Story is pretty generic 2010-ish, I guess.

At some point of course there will be zombies, then good and bad is flipped, etc. etc. same same.

Edited September 27 by Lexx

[Bartimaeus]

8 hours ago, majestic said:

That was a really good scene, at least until Rei just dissolved into goo to drive home a point which retroactively ruined it for me.

The key with Rebuild is to just repress your traumatic memories: that way, you'll remember...maybe only 5% of it.

Edited September 27 by Bartimaeus

[majestic]

2 hours ago, Lexx said:

Note: I never played the game(s) and know nothing more about it.

The game has an achievement that triggers if you look up 2B's skirt by creative camera movement. It is not enough to just do it once. They don't want the achievement to trigger on accident.  

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

20 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

The joke was that this "scene" is part of the preview for the next episode, but what they thought was going to be in the next Rebuild film kept wildly changing so all the stuff that appeared in those previews never actually happened, so that picture is just nonsense.

Woosh, I did not pay attention to the previews at all.

20 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

IIRC, @majestic's favorite bit was the tea party(?) Rei threw in the second Rebuild film, while my favorite bit...was when it was over. Okay, not including that, and not including the funny misleading/erroneous previews, my favorite part was when they were all just chilling in that post-apocalypse village in...I think the fourth film - it didn't even feel like I was really watching Evangelion during that section, which was a welcome reprieve from everything before and after. Just a sudden departure to a totally different tone and style, no yelling and screaming or seizure-inducing animation. So my favorite part might also be your favorite part based on what you said, though I'm not 100% sure because I'm not sure if that section happened in the third or the fourth movie.

It was in the fourth film and I actually do think the ending lands as being over.

For me the village did feel like watching Evangelion, strip away the robots and religio-techno-babble and it ultimately is about the crippling loneliness that can result from the unknowable gulf that exists between people. And the village was sort of a more positive spin on it, with Shinji, Rei, and Asuka learning to accept that and grow in different ways. Part of what makes the last hurrah work is we get to see them develop in a way they couldn't in the previously cramped rebuilds....but I do think it relies on you having watched NGE to really vibe with as well.

The ending where beeg tiddy waifu and finally adult Shinji run away from the hell of the Evas was pretty satisfying as an ending to the saga. It certainly works better than Shinji becoming (part of) a god or some definitive thing where both the Angels and HIP/SEELE/Deadbeat Dad were defeated by Evas. I actually like that the end is these people who have been stuck as teenagers for decades exploring a new world instead of doing an epilogue that showed us just what happened to the gang in the post-Eva world.

Anyways I started watching Hells Paradise and....it's ok. I can vibe with the looks of the show and think monster design is good but it could teeter into dumb shonen quickly so I'll just have to see.

[Gorth]

11 hours ago, Lexx said:

Watched the NieR Automata anime. Actually wasn't that bad, but at some point the story got so confusing, I kinda checked out.

Nothing unique to the anime where Nier/Yoko Taro is involved 

 

edit: the story is spread over the Drakengard games, Final Fantasy the MMO, live stage theatre pieces, novellas and the two Nier games 

 

In short, god hates humans and unleashed a curse to wipe them out. It follows humanity through all their attempts to fight it off end eventually leads to their extinction, leaving behind only post apocalyptic ruins and the Yorha project (the androids programmed to fight for humanity)

[Gorth]

Gorth doing a little happy dance... so Studio Madhouse knows how to count to two after all

(not really a surprise, but official confirmation is always nice, even if the actual release is likely a couple of years away)

 

[Bartimaeus]

MADHOUSE
A-Girl - OVA - 1993
Azuki-chan - Movie - 1995
Barefoot Gen - Movie - 1983
Bio Hunter - OVA - 1995
Cardcaptor Sakura - TV Series - 1998
Cardcaptor Sakura the Movie - Movie - 1999
Cardcaptor Sakura the Sealed Card - Movie - 2000
Carried by the Wind: Tsukikage Ran - TV Series - 2000
Clover - OVA - 1999
Devil Hunter Yohko - OVA - 1990
Doomed Megalopolis - OVA - 1991
Genma Taisen: Harmagedon - Movie - 1983
Hiroshima ni Ichiban Densha ga Hashitta - TV Special - 1993
Kiss Me on the Apple of My Eye - OVA - 1993
Mai Mai Miracle - Movie - 2009
Memories - Movie - 1995
Mermaid's Scar - OVA - 1993
Metropolis - Movie - 2001
Millennium Actress - Movie - 2001
Neo Tokyo - Movie - 1987
Ninja Scroll - Movie - 1993
ONE PUNCH MAN - TV Series - 2015
Okko's Inn - Movie - 2018
Paprika - Movie - 2006
Paranoia Agent - TV Series - 2004
Perfect Blue - Movie - 1998
REDLINE - Movie - 2009
Tetsuwan Birdy - OVA - 1996
Texhnolyze - TV Series - 2003
The Animatrix - OVA - 2003
The Cockpit - OVA - 1993
The Diary of Anne Frank - Movie - 1995
The Fantastic Adventures of Unico - Movie - 1981
The Girl Who Leapt Through Time - Movie - 2006
Time Stranger - Movie - 1986
Tokyo Godfathers - Movie - 2003
Twilight of the Cockroaches - Movie - 1987
Unico in the Island of Magic - Movie - 1983
Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust - Movie - 2001

Madhouse is the studio from which I've watched the most distinct movies/shows. Though I like or love around 70% of these, not everything was a winner...and though I wish I could say Frieren was my least favorite among all of them, that honor still goes to Redline, followed very closely by Ninja Scroll.

Edited September 29 by Bartimaeus

[Sarex]

1 hour ago, Bartimaeus said:

Madhouse is the studio from which I've watched the most distinct movies/shows. Though I like or love around 70% of these, not everything was a winner...and though I wish I could say Frieren was my least favorite among all of them, that honor still goes to Redline, followed very closely by Ninja Scroll.

Blasphemy!

[Amentep]

On 9/13/2024 at 10:18 PM, Bartimaeus said:

I actually tried to read this manga recently (Junji Ito's Uzumaki from 1998), but I only finished the first volume (of three) before tossing it. Cool art and all, but didn't do anything for me.

I think its Ito's best long form story, but then I'm a sucker for Cosmic Horror.

[uuuhhii]

so this season are over and next will start in a week

mayonaka punch and make heroin seem to be best of this season

next season seem promising

arcane season 2 also come out next season

[Bartimaeus]

2 hours ago, Amentep said:

I think its Ito's best long form story, but then I'm a sucker for Cosmic Horror.

In theory, so am I, but in practice...well, if the writing consistently just doesn't click for me, it can become increasingly difficult to see the forest for the trees. Though in all fairness, almost all manga I've tried I've really struggled to stick with because I find the writing to not work for me, and the few exceptions are...generally quite silly.

1 hour ago, uuuhhii said:

so this season are over and next will start in a week

Is there any particular reason anime goes by seasons of the year? On the site I use to track what anime shows/movies I've seen, I actually setup a custom filter on my adblock that automatically blocks any announcements mentioning the seasons because I really don't care about new shows or when they're going to air.

On 9/29/2024 at 12:21 PM, Sarex said:

Blasphemy!

I would have enjoyed them more if only I had enjoyed them more.

Edited September 30 by Bartimaeus

[majestic]

So, like, anyone up for a CCS rewatch?

[uuuhhii]

1 hour ago, Bartimaeus said:

In theory, so am I, but in practice...well, if the writing consistently just doesn't click for me, it can become increasingly difficult to see the forest for the trees. Though in all fairness, almost all manga I've tried I've really struggled to stick with because I find the writing to not work for me, and the few exceptions are...generally quite silly.

Is there any particular reason anime goes by seasons of the year? On the site I use to track what anime shows/movies I've seen, I actually setup a custom filter on my adblock that automatically blocks any announcements mentioning the seasons because I really don't care about new shows or when they're going to air.

I would have enjoyed them more if only I had enjoyed them more.

 

that is how big 4 tv station work for many decade

always make sense

it is weird that usa tv have ridiculous winter gap and british tv come in 3 or 6 episode season

[Bartimaeus]

4 hours ago, majestic said:

So, like, anyone up for a CCS rewatch?

Uh, I may or may not have just made it to the end of the first arc recently (i.e. episode 46/70...also, the first movie). I guess I should've said something. Whoops, that's my bad. I wasn't necessarily planning on continuing to watch into the second arc any time soon, but maybe by the time you catch up? Well, I'll make sure to let you know when I re-watch Carried by the Wind.

...I also recently re-watched Carried by the Wind. Sorry, it was because I got a bee in my bonnet and went out and actually bought the physical DVDs a while back, and I just started the first episode to compare the quality of the full DVDs against what I had before, and...well, Myao is hilarious and the best and it's a pretty short show! Vampire Princess Miyu, maybe? I mean, I already re-watched the OVA a while back, but I didn't start the show proper yet...

I'll definitely tell you if I ever restart Sailor Moon, I promise. I'm pretty sure you'd literally kill me if I ever started re-watching Sailor Moon and didn't say anything to you.

3 hours ago, uuuhhii said:

that is how big 4 tv station work for many decade

always make sense

it is weird that usa tv have ridiculous winter gap and british tv come in 3 or 6 episode season

It's only with anime that I ever hear about shows being grouped by season, though...

Edited September 30 by Bartimaeus
I just realized that I'm a bad friend...

[uuuhhii]

7 minutes ago, Bartimaeus said:

Uh, I may or may not have just made it to the end of the first arc recently (i.e. episode 46/70...also, the first movie). I guess I should've said something. Whoops, that's my bad. I wasn't necessarily planning on continuing to watch into the second arc, but maybe by the time you catch up? Well, I'll make sure to let you know when I re-watch Carried by the Wind.

...I also recently re-watched Carried by the Wind. Sorry, it was because I got a bee in my bonnet and went out and actually bought the physical DVDs a while back, and I just started the first episode to compare the quality of the full DVDs against what I had before, and...well, Myao is hilarious and the best and it's a pretty short show! Vampire Princess Miyu, maybe? I mean, I already re-watched the OVA a while back, but I didn't start the show proper yet...

I'll definitely tell you if I ever restart Sailor Moon, I promise. I'm pretty sure you'd literally kill me if I ever started re-watching Sailor Moon and didn't say anything to you.

It's only with anime that I ever hear about shows being grouped by season, though...

 

there are a lot of 8 episode season tv show

a lot 10 or 12 episode too

not sure how those time slot work

heard there were some tv show fill the slot with extra for 1 week

[Amentep]

5 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

In theory, so am I, but in practice...well, if the writing consistently just doesn't click for me, it can become increasingly difficult to see the forest for the trees. Though in all fairness, almost all manga I've tried I've really struggled to stick with because I find the writing to not work for me, and the few exceptions are...generally quite silly.

I'm guessing then you've never read Kazuo Umezz? I quite enjoyed his Cat-Eyed Boy stories and The Drifting Classroom (Ito homages the later with his The Disolving Classroom).

Have you tried any of Ito's short works? Maybe that would work better than long-form stories?

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

3 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

I'll definitely tell you if I ever restart Sailor Moon, I promise. I'm pretty sure you'd literally kill me if I ever started re-watching Sailor Moon and didn't say anything to you.

I started watching Sailor Moon a few weeks ago

It was the Crystal or whatever the **** they're calling it now movie adaptation of the last season and it started playing while I was asleep. It was turned off pretty quick and I'm sure majestic will appreciate this over smug Mari.

[majestic]

14 hours ago, PK htiw klaw eriF said:

I started watching Sailor Moon a few weeks ago

 

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It was the Crystal or whatever the **** they're calling it now movie adaptation of the last season and it started playing while I was asleep. It was turned off pretty quick and I'm sure majestic will appreciate this over smug Mari.

 

I actually expected the Mari picture, so, yeah, dunno. Good one. Too bad you didn't watch though. It's really good. Like, really good. Especially the CGI stuff.

18 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

Uh, I may or may not have just made it to the end of the first arc recently (i.e. episode 46/70...also, the first movie). I guess I should've said something. Whoops, that's my bad. I wasn't necessarily planning on continuing to watch into the second arc any time soon, but maybe by the time you catch up? Well, I'll make sure to let you know when I re-watch Carried by the Wind.

...I also recently re-watched Carried by the Wind. Sorry, it was because I got a bee in my bonnet and went out and actually bought the physical DVDs a while back, and I just started the first episode to compare the quality of the full DVDs against what I had before, and...well, Myao is hilarious and the best and it's a pretty short show! Vampire Princess Miyu, maybe? I mean, I already re-watched the OVA a while back, but I didn't start the show proper yet...

How dare you! How... dare... eh, well, would have been nice to watch along, because that makes rewatches more interesting. It might also have recaptured some of the fun I (and by extension, the collective we, I guess?) had in the thread when we watched shows together that we liked. Instead of, well, dunno, me not watching anything and everyone else spamming the thread with anime gutter dreck.

I don't think I want to rewatch Vampire Princess Miyu. Not because I did not enjoy the series (and guessing that ludicrous plot twist 20 episodes in advance will always remain a highlight) but because I think a re-watch will retroactively hurt the series. I don't really want to watch the episodes going in with the knowledge that the series could have been so good but always just teeters on the brink of greatness. While Miyu was infinitely better than Noir, I also would not want to rewatch Noir for a similar reason.

Wanna roll the dice on Escaflowne and seeing if the series holds up on a rewatch, or is that too soon?

18 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

I'll definitely tell you if I ever restart Sailor Moon, I promise. I'm pretty sure you'd literally kill me if I ever started re-watching Sailor Moon and didn't say anything to you.

Yeah, that might actually bother me. Guess it would be the same with Steven Universe for you. Which reminds me that I still need to watch the end of Future. Huh.

Edited October 1 by majestic

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

29 minutes ago, majestic said:

I actually expected the Mari picture, so, yeah, dunno. Good one. Too bad you didn't watch though. It's really good. Like, really good. Especially the CGI stuff.

Honestly I'd be more likely to do DIO.

It was on while I was sleeping, so it probably has done at least some level of psychic damage. Nothing I've seen of it makes it look particularly worth watching, it's not visually appealing and I've taken your word that the "canon" Sailor Moon is pretty bad to the point of making BLACK LADY or Pedosus look wholesome. Maybe one day I'll get paralyzed and have to endure it until it gets turned off.

Anyways....I don't care if any of yall rewatch JoJo or whatever without telling me so much as you enjoy it. I can eat that up so I'd probably catch up quickly.....welll probably can't beat @InsaneCommander but he hasn't been around in a minute. Hope he's alright.

Also, finished Hell's Paradise s1. It's getting into the more obnoxious Shonen stuff like TRAINING for POWER LEVEL but the monster design and aesthetics are still really good so I'll probably keep going if s2 is ever made.

[Bartimaeus]

3 hours ago, majestic said:

How dare you! How... dare... eh, well, would have been nice to watch along, because that makes rewatches more interesting. It might also have recaptured some of the fun I (and by extension, the collective we, I guess?) had in the thread when we watched shows together that we liked. Instead of, well, dunno, me not watching anything and everyone else spamming the thread with anime gutter dreck.

In my defense, re-watching Cardcaptor Sakura was not exactly my decision and nor was I the one deciding when episodes were going to be watched. I could've said something about it to encourage you to re-start it, but there was the distinct possibility that my re-watch could've effectively just...died five, ten episodes in for reasons outside of my control, and that wouldn't have been awesome. Happily, that did not happen, but that makes it a bit of a lost opportunity for you. It's been recent enough that I would think I'm still more than prepared to talk about any episodes you watch and might want to talk about (and indeed, I did actually have a number of thoughts about things).

I go through phases of wanting to experience new things (be it in real life or movies, books, games...) but then I also go through phases of being like "wait, almost all of the new things aren't as good as the things I already love, let's try some of those instead". For that reason, I wouldn't be opposed to an Escaflowne re-watch, I think it'd hold up just fine.

3 hours ago, majestic said:

I don't think I want to rewatch Vampire Princess Miyu. Not because I did not enjoy the series (and guessing that ludicrous plot twist 20 episodes in advance will always remain a highlight) but because I think a re-watch will retroactively hurt the series. I don't really want to watch the episodes going in with the knowledge that the series could have been so good but always just teeters on the brink of greatness. While Miyu was infinitely better than Noir, I also would not want to rewatch Noir for a similar reason.

I enjoyed the OVA more on the second watch than I did on the first, but I think the things which most attracted me to the show as a whole aren't going to be very affected by the course of the main story. But I understand the perspective.

3 hours ago, majestic said:

Yeah, that might actually bother me. Guess it would be the same with Steven Universe for you. Which reminds me that I still need to watch the end of Future. Huh.

Speaking of Steven Universe, I've been re-watching the whole series with my nieces and we've been having a great time...in the middle of season 4 now, and though the main story is great and all, the show as a whole is starting to get a bit off-kilter just as I thought it would. Seasons 1 and 2 are by far the most cohesive and consistent from episode to episode. I confess to have yoinked 2-3 episodes out of each season, though - no Onion Trade or Rocknaldo or Onion Gang or Rising Tides, Crashing Skies for us. Too bad, so sad, GOODBYE ONION AND RONALDO!

21 hours ago, Amentep said:

I'm guessing then you've never read Kazuo Umezz? I quite enjoyed his Cat-Eyed Boy stories and The Drifting Classroom (Ito homages the later with his The Disolving Classroom).

Have you tried any of Ito's short works? Maybe that would work better than long-form stories?

Kazuo Umezu(?): I apparently tried something called "Orochi", but I remember literally nothing about it, so I'm guessing I didn't get very far. From Junji, I also tried "Tombs", "Venus in the Blind Spot", "Deserter", and "Soichi", and I bounced off all of them pretty quickly as well, so I'm fairly confident that his writing just isn't for me, no matter the cool concepts and art. I'm the worst, I know: it's inexplicable the things that do just randomly click for me versus the ones that don't...even I am surprised sometimes.

Edited October 1 by Bartimaeus