Ukraine Conflict - "There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare"

[xzar_monty]

1 hour ago, Malcador said:

Could just be a US media outlet overhyping the danger as it's Iran, heh.

Yeah, fair point. Also, if the article was saying the opposite, it could be a US media outlet wanting to downplay Iran's capabilities.

Agendas. Those damned things.

[Malcador]

1 hour ago, xzar_monty said:

Yeah, fair point. Also, if the article was saying the opposite, it could be a US media outlet wanting to downplay Iran's capabilities.

Agendas. Those damned things.

Can't see why they would want to downplay the boogeyman in the Gulf, though.  In any event, shouldn't be a surprise that the drones can do work, not a silver bullet or anything.

Also I guess helps sell Ukraine's demand for some weapon to counter them, from the NYT feed today, all of Ukraine's artillery is at risk. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/09/18/world/ukraine-russia-war

Edited September 18, 2022 by Malcador

[Lexx]

Likely not easy to react against them, since they fly high and suicide into you if they can. There's not much time to take them down unless you already know they are there. So I'm not surprised they "work."

[Malcador]

Example of the true crime of this war, god awful taste in music.

[Lexx]

Indeed. Almost every video I see, the music needs to be muted.

[Zoraptor]

Iranian drones have been extremely effective against Saudi Arabia- and even if it weren't the Iranians that only means that the far less capable Houthis have been very effective. Saudi may be riddled with endemic incompetence when it comes to their military but they do have an enormous amount of advanced kit. Not surprising at all if the Ukrainians struggle.

US media has been bipolar over Iran the past six months. They're simultaneously about to betray Russia, sign the nuJCPOA and crash oil prices; and splash out on Russian kit, train thousands of Syrian mercenaries for use in Ukraine plus sell hundreds of drones and missiles on an ongoing basis to Russia. As an actual factual it's been far more towards the latter so far.

[BruceVC]

9 hours ago, Zoraptor said:

Iranian drones have been extremely effective against Saudi Arabia- and even if it weren't the Iranians that only means that the far less capable Houthis have been very effective. Saudi may be riddled with endemic incompetence when it comes to their military but they do have an enormous amount of advanced kit. Not surprising at all if the Ukrainians struggle.

US media has been bipolar over Iran the past six months. They're simultaneously about to betray Russia, sign the nuJCPOA and crash oil prices; and splash out on Russian kit, train thousands of Syrian mercenaries for use in Ukraine plus sell hundreds of drones and missiles on an ongoing basis to Russia. As an actual factual it's been far more towards the latter so far.

What advanced kit have the Saudis got to stop  Iranian suicide drone attacks, Im interested?

Edited September 19, 2022 by BruceVC

[BruceVC]

 This is so true and brilliant 

 

[Mamoulian War]

Russia has shelled another Nuclear Power Plant at Pivdenno-Ukrainska industrial zone of the powerpoant. Missiles landed 300m away from reactor. 135km away from frontlines.

https://t.me/energoatom_ua/9682

Edited September 19, 2022 by Mamoulian War

[Mamoulian War]

1 hour ago, BruceVC said:

 This is so true and brilliant 

 

But what about the Alexander’s invasion of Persia!

Edited September 19, 2022 by Mamoulian War

[xzar_monty]

16 minutes ago, Mamoulian War said:

Russia has shelled another Nuclear Power Plant at Pivdenno-Ukrainska industrial zone of the powerpoant. Missiles landed 300m away from reactor. 135km away from frontlines.

Sounds more likely that Russia continues to shell quite arbitrarily and has almost happened to hit a nuclear power plant. This does not make it any less despicable, of course.

[xzar_monty]

This, by the way, is a delightful little way of protesting against Putin and Russia: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-singer-alla-pugacheva-speaks-out-b2170143.html

[Malcador]

4 hours ago, Mamoulian War said:

Russia has shelled another Nuclear Power Plant at Pivdenno-Ukrainska industrial zone of the powerpoant. Missiles landed 300m away from reactor. 135km away from frontlines.

https://t.me/energoatom_ua/9682

Weird to mention the frontline distance of all things, considering all the weaponry wank. I guess the campaign on infrastructure continues, doubt this is arbitrary, heh.

[Mamoulian War]

2 hours ago, Malcador said:

Weird to mention the frontline distance of all things, considering all the weaponry wank. I guess the campaign on infrastructure continues, doubt this is arbitrary, heh.

It was jab at som people, who still do not believe, that Russia is capable of shelling Nuclear PPs, including ZNPP, despite dozens of satellite and on-site images, from where you can easily find out, where from the projectiles arrived  

[Mamoulian War]

 

[kanisatha]

Interesting stories about increasing frustration with Putin in Beijing and New Delhi:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/16/world/europe/putin-modi-war-ukraine.html

https://www.ft.com/content/48301890-c8b2-4ed9-b977-b28d52d51f02

[Gorth]

22 hours ago, BruceVC said:

What advanced kit have the Saudis got to stop  Iranian suicide drone attacks, Im interested?

They have tried carpet bombing the Yemeni civilian population out of existence, but that didn't seem to work. Strange how they just keep to that strategy... Maybe the Russians have Saudi military instructors?

 

[BruceVC]

42 minutes ago, Gorth said:

They have tried carpet bombing the Yemeni civilian population out of existence, but that didn't seem to work. Strange how they just keep to that strategy... Maybe the Russians have Saudi military instructors?

 

Zora is talking about the drone attacks against the Saudis within Saudi Arabia from Yemen 

But I have never heard of them having advanced kit that can be used to stop suicide drones so Im interested because I dont follow these types of military details?

 

 

[xzar_monty]

Here's another one of those hard-to-believe pieces of news. I mean, it's not hard to believe that Wagner is recruiting 1,500 prisoners, as it fits the agenda perfectly, but this is odd:

 

[xzar_monty]

Here's a really good illustration of how different this war is to previous wars: all this documentation is available. I wouldn't want to spend much of my time going through all this, but it's astonishing to look at some of this. (It also shows that Russia's losses are, indeed, quite remarkable.)

Dive in: https://ukr.warspotting.net/analytics/geography/russia/

[BruceVC]

1 hour ago, xzar_monty said:

Here's another one of those hard-to-believe pieces of news. I mean, it's not hard to believe that Wagner is recruiting 1,500 prisoners, as it fits the agenda perfectly, but this is odd:

 

Oh its very believable and wouldn't surprise me in the slightest 

[xzar_monty]

Russia apparently moves its submarines to safer locations. Interesting.

 

[BruceVC]

9 hours ago, kanisatha said:

Interesting stories about increasing frustration with Putin in Beijing and New Delhi:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/16/world/europe/putin-modi-war-ukraine.html

https://www.ft.com/content/48301890-c8b2-4ed9-b977-b28d52d51f02

Oh my hat, its looking more and more unlikely the " new world  Russian led order " is going to materialize 

Dammit, guess I should stop my Mandarin and Russian language  classes 

 

[Mamoulian War]

45 minutes ago, BruceVC said:

Oh my hat, its looking more and more unlikely the " new world  Russian led order " is going to materialize 

Dammit, guess I should stop my Mandarin and Russian language  classes 

 

Although in the wake of current war efforts, in the case of Russians, especially behind the Ural, starting Mandarin classes would be considered as a highly rational act

[Lexx]

So they apparently found more torture chambers in Izyum. Also found more dead soldiers with cut-off balls. Guess there is a reason why surrendering russian soldiers asked if their balls will be cut off.