August 9, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Malcador said: I dunno about that. In CONCACAF, perhaps. It's plainly not true. MLS is still a weak league compared to, say, the top 10 leagues in Europe,at least. It is still very much a retirement league for top players. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
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August 9, 20214 yr 39 minutes ago, Pidesco said: It's plainly not true. MLS is still a weak league compared to, say, the top 10 leagues in Europe,at least. It is still very much a retirement league for top players. Ten is far too many. The 5 (?) top tier leagues in Europe- Germany, Italy, France, England, Spain- are clearly miles better, but the secondary level not so much since they tend to have super clubs that massively skew perspective. The MLS sides might struggle to beat Celtic/ Rangers for example, or Ajax/ PSV, or Benfica/ Porto- but then so do the other teams already in those domestic leagues. (to be honest, the whole european model is kind of broken in that respect and the US one typically results in a far 'flatter' comp, and I say that as someone who dislikes franchise type set ups on principle. The average MLS team would probably perform fine against the average tier 2 Euro domestic team though, the only one I'm sure is better is the Dutch one though that's based on a couple of years ago when we had both MLS and a bunch of little e european leagues on free to air) Edited August 9, 20214 yr by Zoraptor
August 9, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Pidesco said: It's plainly not true. MLS is still a weak league compared to, say, the top 10 leagues in Europe,at least. It is still very much a retirement league for top players. Wouldn't say it is that bad still and while they wouldn't be a 'winning club' in the bigger leagues in Europe, maybe top 7. Going by the latest UEFA coefficients anyway, hah. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
August 9, 20214 yr 8 minutes ago, Malcador said: Wouldn't say it is that bad still and while they wouldn't be a 'winning club' in the bigger leagues in Europe, maybe top 7. Going by the latest UEFA coefficients anyway, hah. In terms of competitiveness, I typically see the MLS ranked around 20st/21nd. For average attendance, they have reached 8th in the world. At least as of 2019. Positionally, I think they are still in the first generation of academy players. Some good players have emerged, but no superstars yet. "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats."
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