How to confuse pc while not being a berserker

[Raven Darkholme 646]

I seem to recall something was posted lately, but forgot where:

How to I confuse my main char without it having to be a berserker? (for grave chillfog).

I tried spore summons but they seem to have no effect whatsoever.

[SArgentus 11]

You can confuse your character with the Tactician subclass + Powder Burns/flanked, definitely best with resolve resistance.

[Raven Darkholme 646]

I forgot to mention I know about Tactician too.

I'd be happy if I could confuse myself with a cipher/priest, or with another party member onto the cipher.

Or with an item I guess.

[thelee 1,909]

can you hit yourself with fugue spores poison attack?

[Boeroer 15,226]

A Berserker/Wizard can confuse you with Confusion.

You could use thelee's poison, apply it to your weapon and attack yourself with Rhakan Field Boots. I guess?

 

[L4wlight 315]

Could a Rogue Sap the Cipher? Never tried it. Worth a try.

I tried to use Sap on a Summon once to see if I could use Antipathetic Field on the Summon afterwards, but this didn't worked.

Edited December 27, 2020 by L4wlight

[Raven Darkholme 646]

Hm, Sap should work, not sure why it doesn't work on a summon tho, maybe its one of those weird abilites, that are foe only.

Poison with Rakhan boots also sounds very convenient, I will try both options.

(Bers/Wiz would also work, but I'M too lazy to make a 3rd party member :P)

[L4wlight 315]

Okay tried it. Sap works on party members/ on Cipher. Not sure why I never tried it on my own Cipher. Really nice. Now I have another way to use Antipathetic Field in Boss fights. Thanks for the input in this thread.

I think I understand now why it did not work on summon in the past: it is because once you use Sap on a friendly target, the target still has a green circle and not a yellow one, even though it technically is confused. This also means that your sapped Cipher will not suffer from friendly fire, which is very nice tbh.

[Boeroer 15,226]

So let me understand this: as a confused cipher you can anchor Antipathetic Field to party members, too (instead of only foes)?

[L4wlight 315]

Yes. Just tested it.

[Raven Darkholme 646]

Hm, this is pretty interesting, this way you can make any npc into an ally, by sapping yourself with rakhans and then dominate them with Puppet Master.

No idea if its useful, but interesting.

[Raven Darkholme 646]

I randomly ran across this today, Street sweeper has an upgrade with confuse on hit.

[Constentin Lévine 13]

You can also use a priest of Woedica, with writ of sorcery, but it is not a good idea for casters (disabling spell casting) . However, there is a poison, fugue spore, that an acurate friend could be inoculate to you, or a rogue can use Sap on you , I think

[Constentin Lévine 13]

By the way, do you think if you use Perplexing Sap on other party member , like a wizard or druid, you are able to confuse every enemies with AoE spells?

[Boeroer 15,226]

Ohhh - good question. I never thought about that (mostly because confusion is such a weak affliction on enemies that I don't bother applying it). But good thinking.

[thelee 1,909]

13 hours ago, Constentin Lévine said:

By the way, do you think if you use Perplexing Sap on other party member , like a wizard or druid, you are able to confuse every enemies with AoE spells?

if memory serves - everything spreads confusion at that point. it's such that without intellect resistance, perplexing sap one target (friend or enemy) will end up confusing *everyone* in the battle. i reported this a long time ago, and OBS said it was an ability that was top priority for being retooled, but i guess they never had the time to manage that.