smjjames Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 They'd probably be more puzzled by it than repelled if anything. Sure, there will be some that go 'NO HERETICS!', but the candidate-is-Hindu thing is uncharted waters politically, so, theres the whole unfamiliarity factor to deal with. Religion hasn't come up much (which isn't surprising given the Democrats) and the only criticism of her that I've heard of is her visit with Syrias leader and some anti-LGBTQ stuff when she was younger. Whether the is-Hindu thing is getting tossed around negatively in conservative circles, I don't know. Hinduism isn't too different from Christianity in some ways, but it'd still be a massive exotic factor for most people. I know most won't see it that way, but when it comes down to it, faith is still faith, right? Incidentially, Kamala Harris is also part Indian (India that is), wouldn't be surprised if is-secret-hindu was attempted as an attack line or some conspiracy theory at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I don't see reasonable people having a problem with her being a Hindu, but, this is a political climate which has been pretty toxic; and a lot of people aren't reasonable. I mean, people criticised John Kerry for going to Vietnam when the alternative (sometimes) attended the National Guard; such things aren't really logical in the normal sense of the word. It's definitely not anywhere near the top of her current problems in any case, as with most candidates getting exposure in a crowded field (especially one with two credible women candidates) is her biggest problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 15 hours ago, smjjames said: If the Democrats don't get their act together, yes the possibility is there. Trump has recreated the fault lines in the current USA discourse and political narrative. He has created a binary choice for all Republican politicians, " either you with me or you against me " .....if you aren't with him you effectively swept aside into political obscurity. For me many Republicans who use to criticize him during the 2016 election but now support him aren't practicing hypocrisy but prudent political expediency and survival . It has worked for Trump so far and the Republican party is publicly united behind him in most areas. So they present a formidable adversary for the Democrats in 2020 The next question for the Democrats is " how do we beat Trump and who is the best candidate ", this is obviously early days before 2020 and these answers will change as time goes on. Saying all that if I was a Democratic strategist I would be very worried so far as the Democratic party is not united ideologically or around policy. For example you have these extreme policy suggestions like " free Medicare for all " and " we shouldn't prosecute anyone who crosses the borders illegally ". As I have mentioned before I see far too many new candidates who push unsustainable and or unrealistic left wing socialist policies that dont reflect what most reasonable Western Democracies would necessarily accept ...so why try do it in the USA? At the moment Biden is the best Democratic candidate for me so unless the Democrats, and especially all there supporters, can unite behind the right candidate for 2020 then Trump will win again "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) And now ladies and gentlemen, your 2020 US Libertarian Party Presidential news flash: The first LP Presidential debate was held last night by the MA LP Party at a facility... well... not really sure where. Not like it got any TV coverage. Or news coverage. But, I assume it was somewhere in Massachusetts. The debate featured three legit candidates for the nomination and one guy who ran out of gas nearby and stopped in looking for change. It turns out the four candidates spent the evening mainly talking about Justin Amash whose absence was notable... and also easily explained by the fact he is in Washington DC working and he's not running for the LP, or any other, nomination. The four candidates are: Kimberly Ruff: Kim has never held elected office but figured f--k go for the biggest one without any experience. What could go wrong? https://ruffphillips2020.com/ Adam Kokesh: A longtime party ne'er do well. Not without a history of stupid comments and unworkable ideas: http://www.votevohra.com/#meet-arvin Max Abramson: New Hampshire State Rep, LP darling, convicted felon (not for something bad) and probably the most qualified candidate on the list. He's actually been elected to something. http://www.maxabramson.org/ Dan Behrman: Never heard of him. I really hope he didn't pay anyone to build his website. If he did he was ripped off. https://behrman2020.com/ Edited July 16, 2019 by Guard Dog 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Zoraptor said: I don't see reasonable people having a problem with her being a Hindu, ....I love it when you crack jokes on this forum Zora, sometimes levity breaks the ostensibly serious nature of political debates You cant possibly expect anyone but a Christian\Roman Catholic to become president in the USA, it has nothing to do with reasonableness or intolerance and this applies to all countries outside the USA where you have a religious demographic majority. For example you wont ever see a Christian ruling any Muslim country or India for that matter and thats okay, its what we would expect to see. A person from a minority religion in the majority of countries can become a mayor or a politician but not the president Personally I would vote for an atheist or agnostic but for many people, considering how many legitimate factors are normally and or automatically dichotomous in politics,to suggest someone who is not Christian\Roman Catholic would ever become USA president is just a pipe dream As I have said before when I see Christians elected to govern countries where they are the minority then I would concede this may be achievable in some Western Democracies "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 New Thread: I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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