LordofBones Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) I haven't acquired a legendary robe or the one off the splintered reef, but so far robe models are incredibly underwhelming. I'm not expecting giant pauldrons and Maleficent-style hems, but some variety in robe models would be nice, seeing as how Humility looks like a generic black robe and Effigy's Husk is hideous. Arkemyr, of all people, should definitely not look like a monk. The Huana all have nice robes, so it's baffling that robe armors all look so humdrum. The bejeweled mantles and full-body robes of the Huana aristocracy look so much nicer than the actual robe armors, and it's particularly baffling because all other armors got some love as far as unique looks go. Slap full-length sleeves on the Huana robes and I'd go for that over the existing robe armors. I mean, I don't mind the regular robes looking like a monk's cassock, but I'd figure that unique robes would actually have unique models, not just retextures (Humility looks exactly like a tattered robe, Effigy's Husk is a retextured Fine Robe). Robe wearers deserve some love too. Edited May 23, 2018 by LordofBones 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juodas Varnas Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I just wish we were able to 'enchant' the clothing (including the Dancer Outfits ) with Fine/Exceptional/Superb qualities, like in PoE 1 Those Vaillian Frock Coats are so sexy. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadenuat Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 There's a lot of unique clothes and armor in the game but they're not used to make unique equipment. Why? Because gotta add more swords and sabres. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordofBones Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 There's a lot of unique clothes and armor in the game but they're not used to make unique equipment. Why? Because gotta add more swords and sabres. Yeah, that's bizarre. Hell, there's only one unique wand in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juodas Varnas Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 There's a lot of unique clothes and armor in the game but they're not used to make unique equipment. Why? Because gotta add more swords and sabres. Yeah, that's bizarre. Hell, there's only one unique wand in the game. But what a Whale of a Wand it is! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warbaby2 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I just wish we were able to 'enchant' the clothing (including the Dancer Outfits ) with Fine/Exceptional/Superb qualities, like in PoE 1 Those Vaillian Frock Coats are so sexy. This... some form of glamor option would really be nice, especially in a setting with such a wide range of interesting clothing designs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceptenar Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I do agree with this, mages look incredibly underwhelming in this game because of it. I hope to the gods that Obsidian will make some unique looking robes for the last DLC so all the archmages don't just look like color swapped copies of each other. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CENIC Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I really want a cosmetic equipment slot so I can wear the awesome cultural clothing that was added in this game but still have decent stats. 7 Aloth massages his temples, shaking his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordofBones Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 I do agree with this, mages look incredibly underwhelming in this game because of it. I hope to the gods that Obsidian will make some unique looking robes for the last DLC so all the archmages don't just look like color swapped copies of each other. God, I hope so. Obsidian made absolutely beautiful robes in NWN2 - the robe of the archmagi comes to mind - but all of Deadfire's robes look like they were made for monks, down to the rope belts. Why don't legendary robes look suitable for archbishops, if they were going for a clerical look? Why does Arkemyr's fine robe look like a generic fine robe? Why does Arkemyr himself look like he's just stepped out of a medieval monastery? An insane diversity of clothing, any they couldn't splice something together for cloth wearers? That Huana lady - the one who starts the Arkemyr quest - outside the Palace looks better than my wizard in a superb robe. Hell, superb and exceptional robes look exactly the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagaziel Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Effigy's Husk is hideous. Well, you're wearing a skinned human turned into an avatar of the god of schemes and vengeance. I'd be surprised if this was something made for a fashion show. Though... "Flayed Human Collection 2829" does have a pleasant ring to it (at least, until I have my coffee). I'll have to check the files, but it seems the lack of robe variety is due to a bug in assigning models, since there's plenty of variety in icons and they usually correspond with what we get. USually. 5 HMIC for: [ The Wasteland Wiki ] [ Pillars of Eternity Wiki ] [ Tyranny Wiki ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doppelschwert Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I find robes underwhelming as well, but to me there is not much of a distinction between a cleric and a western monk. What I'm missing is a Robe (or any other outfit) that looks even remotely like that of a martial artist, which is how I wanted to look like if I was playing the class monk. It's ironic that Xoti's gear, which is the closest to this I've seen so far, doesn't classify as anything even near a robe in terms of game mechanics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordofBones Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 Effigy's Husk is hideous. Well, you're wearing a skinned human turned into an avatar of the god of schemes and vengeance. I'd be surprised if this was something made for a fashion show. Though... "Flayed Human Collection 2829" does have a pleasant ring to it (at least, until I have my coffee). I'll have to check the files, but it seems the lack of robe variety is due to a bug in assigning models, since there's plenty of variety in icons and they usually correspond with what we get. USually. Humility's icon is a white tattered robe, the robe itself is black. Effigy's Husk's icon matches the robe. Spider Silk Robe's icon is a black-and-gold variant of the standard exceptional/superb/legendary robe icon. And then there's the Watershaper's robe, which is a kilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitri Berman Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Ahh I'm really sorry about the robe situation. I don't disagree. Bobby requested fancier robes a long time ago and they were always meant to go in, but were always prioritized below other things. I'll check with the DLC team if it is possible for us to get something new in. 41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juodas Varnas Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Ahh I'm really sorry about the robe situation. I don't disagree. Bobby requested fancier robes a long time ago and they were always meant to go in, but were always prioritized below other things. I'll check with the DLC team if it is possible for us to get something new in. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordofBones Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) Ahh I'm really sorry about the robe situation. I don't disagree. Bobby requested fancier robes a long time ago and they were always meant to go in, but were always prioritized below other things. I'll check with the DLC team if it is possible for us to get something new in. Thanks, Dimitri. I know it sounds petty, but the robe thing has been bothering me for some time. Part of it is because gear progression also comes with appearance progression; in Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, NWN1 (with HotU) and NWN 2, there was a visible form of progression as your character equipped better robes. In the IE games, you went from a simple robe, to a caped robe, to a hooded and cloaked robe with amulets, etc; in NWN 1, there were a number of robe models; in NWN 2, the archmage robes all had one of the most beautiful robe models I've had the pleasure of seeing. Deadfire's three robe models are okay, but not the kind of robes I'd imagine archmages - including the watcher - would wear. The Huana robes (with full sleeves or the existing exceptional/superb robe sleeves) are more of what I'd imagine powerful wizards wearing. Edited May 24, 2018 by LordofBones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaColombo Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Thank you, Dimitri! "Time is not your enemy. Forever is." — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers." — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadenuat Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Is not even problem with models themselves (although robes are fugly). It's the problem how you design items. You have unique cloth models, unique armor models, but people who designed items simply were not using all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merany Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Ahh I'm really sorry about the robe situation. I don't disagree. Bobby requested fancier robes a long time ago and they were always meant to go in, but were always prioritized below other things. I'll check with the DLC team if it is possible for us to get something new in. Yes please! You guys did an absolutely amazing job on all other armors, it's a shame robes look so bland in comparison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordofBones Posted May 24, 2018 Author Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) Is not even problem with models themselves (although robes are fugly). It's the problem how you design items. You have unique cloth models, unique armor models, but people who designed items simply were not using all of them. Pretty much. The base robe model - everything below the waist, actually - is pretty, well, bland. The rope belt and open robe skirt just look awkward. Sashes and belts would help break up the monotony, not to mention having actual robe skirts. It's rather odd, considering that the Huana nobility all have bejeweled mantles and decorated robes. Why should a legendary robe worn by Arkemyr/Concelhaut/Kalakoth/Ninagauth/<insert archmage here> that costs several hundred times more than noble clothing look objectively worse? Edited May 24, 2018 by LordofBones 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skazz Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 It's rather odd, considering that the Huana nobility all have bejeweled mantles and decorated robes. Why should a legendary robe worn by Arkemyr/Concelhaut/Kalakoth/Ninagauth/<insert archmage here> that costs several hundred times more than noble clothing look objectively worse? To be fair, I don't think Concelhaut cares any more. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitri Berman Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Alright, after talking with some peeps on the team, I see new robes in your future. 37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CENIC Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Alright, after talking with some peeps on the team, I see new robes in your future.BASED D-GOD 3 Aloth massages his temples, shaking his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerith Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I started wearing -recovery time light armors on my wizard JUST because robes looked so plain and basic. Glad to hear there will be something better in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldre Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 While we wait for the awesome new robes, how hard can it be to mod the existing unique robes to look like something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marimo Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I'd like a good robe for Tekehu because I never found one in my game. He just doesn't look right in anything but his starter robe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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