Ice-Cold

Maybe K3 will use the save game from K1 and K2 this time? More likley just K2 though. What I thought K2 was gonna be, is a continuation of K1, like 5 years later like it already is, and have the "loading from saved game" thing, but still have the options to determin what Revan actually did. So if you tell Atton that he was LS - Male.. the game will load from one of your LS - Male ones. Though maybe just saying what happens would have been better, and on the Carth part, we at least should have gotten the chance to listen to the whole story about K1, and then ask him what happened to Mission, etc. I mean, theres many things we have no idea about. Does Carth know Canderous is still alive? Does Mission, Zalbaar, Juhani and Jolee still live? We have no idea, and I think we at least should have got to know.. and Talk to Bastila . and also more info with T3 finding Revan.. and take away the "dwoooo, beep" since the exile already understands it.. We could have asked him if Revan is alive, all we know is Bastila sent him to look for Revan, said if anything has happened to him search for help, which the Exile is the help.. so does this mean something 'Did' happen to Revan? or.. the other possibilities are that Revan sent T3 back to get help from the General (Exile).. maybe we'll see the return of Ulic Qel-Droma to help them out too? lol!.. maybe even Master Vandar. Canderous will still be alive in K3, they will add some sort of big war at the end, where you have to use your head some more, sorta like the temples in K1 and stuff like that.. and use more battle tactics (and what was that skill for with the "War Veteran?"), Obviously the Mandalorians will help the Republic to defeat the Sith.. and Probably at the end we'll have one big celebration with all the Party at the end. Maybe the Party from both K1 and K2 will play a big part in K3, maybe you'll get 12 party members to use, and have a choice to pick up different members.. so each time you play the game you could have a completly different party... maybe have 2 different parties too? Revan and the Exile will join up.. since Revan couldnt take anyone he loved, and cared about, doesnt mean he couldnt take someone he didnt even know, like the Exile. My guess is that Revan didnt take anyone because he knew of the Bonds the Exile has (if his friends die, he feels it too.. or something like that) maybe thats why he left them behind.

lol, I liked Kavar too, I hope to see him in K3, maybe as a Blue Glowy, he could come in every so often to help out the Exile.. It was kinda sad to see the Jedi masters die, with the sad music playing too I also liked Vandar, I wonder if he will make a come back in K3, he was on Visas homeworld which was destroyed, and it was said that all Jedi there died, but Visas survived, so Vandar could have survived too.. maybe he wasnt in K2 because they didnt want to actually kill him off (cause Kreia killed Vrook instead)

If you talk to HK-47 and get enough Influence with him (or just use the save game editor to get 100 with him right away) he talks about his original master aka Revan, and all about the Mandalorian Wars, and what it really was about. The Mandalorian War wasnt really about the Mandalorians at all, Revan found something at Malachor which made him turn to the darkside, we all know that. But the War was actually about corrupting the Jedi, and turning them to the Darkside, and if they refused, killed them. (thats where HK-47 and the production of the HK-50's came in.. who where turned offline until one of the Dark Lords in K2 decided to turn them on, I assume that was Atris.. since the HK facility is underneath Telos) HK says as well as Kreia, that Revan knew the true was wasnt against the Republic, or the Mandalorians.. It was all about getting ready for the war against the True Sith, that was why Revan wanted the Star Forge, so he could create a large fleet of sith to destroy the true sith.. but then Malak goes and attacks Revans ship, Revan then forgets.. then K1 starts. The Mass Shadow Generator is a weapon that causes the world to collapse on itself, during the battle of malachor, Bao-Dur almost managed to get this thing fully active.. he got his arm blew off before he could fully activate it (i think), and instead of the world blowing up, it killed the mandalorians, and i think some of the republic?.. The world was starting to decay, and I'm not too sure if the Remote/G0-T0 actually activated the generator, or that the planet itself was held together by the force, like Sion, and when Kreia died, it made the planet collapse, i dont really know. After the Mandalorian wars, when Revan and Malak seemed to have left the galaxy. Kreia thought it was her fault for Revans fall, and searched for him on Malachor V, she also was fell to the Darkside, and started an Academy there, taking on students, such as Sion, and Nihilus, who took away her powers, and exiled her. So she wanted to get her own back on them, and the Jedi (I dont understand why the Jedi).

Yeah I think so, Master Kavar is ment to have also been in the Mandalorian Wars.. or did he back out? I never understood that part, Mandalore said they hoped it would have been Kavar, rather than Revan. But yeah, I think he's Exiles master.

How come it seems like I'm the only one who understood the game? Yeah there where bugs, and something wrong with conversations.. like: Atton: "I'm sure the others have noticed it too" (talking about the glow - Lightside) though, he says this on Telos when it's just you and Kreia.. he says others.. ah well who cares? Also, theres the Mira thing at the end, she heads for the Academy, then what happenes? does she get back on the ship? I was expecting to see everyone come to my aid, and maybe since the Ebon Hawk got destroyed, Kreia said I could escape on an orbiting ship? In K1, it was sorta like the Original Trilogy, the Jedi concil give you a new memory meaning your the "New Hope", you find out your actually the Dark Lord, which is the same as in ESB, you find out that Vader is Lukes father. Theres some sort of World Devistator, and the Republic attempts to destroy it (you have to turn off the shield on the planet below...) Then, the ending, you confront Darth Malak, try turn him to the lightside.. I think you succeed, but he dies anyway (like Vader) and you have an Endor type celebration at the end. Though K2 reminds me more of Empire Strikes Back, theres dark times for the Republic, theres not really an ending.. on ESB Luke and Leia watching the Falcon fly away into the distance.. same as the Ebon Hawk flying away.. and someone gets there hand cut off. We need more of a Battle.. like the Battle of Hoth, with AT-AT's and junk, maybe we will see The Great Sith War in K3, they'll come and attack the Republic, the Mandalorians will use Basilisk War Droids and aid the Republic. What I dont understand though, is why did Revan ask both Carth and Canderous to keep the Republic/Mandalorians strong, and be "ready" for him/her to return? Did Revan think she/he'd remember everything, and expected to return as the Dark Lord once more? Or just to keep them strong for the Sith War thats about to happen?.. who knows?

Actually.. Mon Calamari may be a planet in K3. I found out that the HK manufactoring plant is under the surface of Telos.. and maybe also Taris, but in one of the StreamVoice files in the K2 folder, theres a little lecturing part, a HK-50 droid is teaching a bunch of HK-51's (i think) how to Translate, or testing there translation skills.. when it comes to testing the Quarren, HK makes a comment about the Eyes of a Mon Calamarian. I think the plant is funny, I think after HK-47 destroys the droids, he did something which allowed him to remember everything, once he got back to the ship, he recognized T3.. etc. Anyone ever thought the new PC Character could be Ulic Qel-Droma? He was a Jedi, and he didnt die. In fact, after he killed his brother, he realized what he had done, and turned back to the lightside, and got someone (i forget who) to remove his powers. Now, what if he decides to join Revan and the Exile to defeat the True Sith?.. hey it's a possibility.

Definantly "Dark Lord of the Sith", Revan and Malak where the first to shorten that term.. it's kinda obvious they did, because Revan was the first Darth after the Ulic Qel-Droma thing, he and Exar kun wasnt "Darth"

In K3, we'll probably see various Sith Lords, hopefuly 17 or more. I cant really think of any names to add, but since Revan and Malak where the first to shorten the title "Dark lords of the Sith" to "Darth" then the "True Sith" will not be called Darth, but use names such as "Freedon Nadd" and "Exar Kun" Name/Personality: And I cant really be bothered to make up names, but something like Darth Tydeus sounds about right .. I will just add the basic personality of what we would probably see. The leader of the Sith Empire, this Sith resembles the Emperor in many ways. When he has been killed, he uses a Sith Teaching which allows him to Transfer his sole into another, giving him immortality. Each of the Sith Lords will, like Darth Nihilus and the Exile, feed from other Force users to make them stronger, which was one of the True Sith teachings from Malachor V. They will all be unique, with skills unique to each other i.e. Battle Meditation, Transfer Sole (whats its name?), Force Camoflauge. Some will be like Darth Sion, where he can die 100 times etc. -- I bet, the Sith we see are all like: Freedon Nadd, Ulic Qel-Doma, Exar Kun, Naga Sadow, Ajunta Paul, Tulak Hord, Qordis, Simus, Marka Ragnos, Kaan, Darth Rivan, Darth Bane, Darth Sidious, Darth Tyranus, Darth Vader, Kyp Durron.. maybe even like Darth Revan. Maybe theres also other Jedi who are like Revan and Exile, who have found out about the True Sith, which makes your party larger (since you couldnt bring along Atton etc), maybe one of these Jedi is a new character for you to create etc. And at the end, you and Revan will battle, because of the fact you (exile) are a Wound in the Force, and will be the end of the force if you arent stopped.. like Vrook and the Jedi Council said.. and of course Revan will win

Planets: Empress Teta: Not really sure.. Ulic Qel-Dromma fell to the darkside there, maybe it will be something cool to add in kotor? Visas homeworld: The Exile maybe goes to Visas homeworld, and she decides to stay, like in Kreias vision.. on this planet, you may find the fallen Jedi, like Vandar, and whoever else. Taris: All of Taris wasnt destroyed, maybe just one city at the most, then theres the undercity, people could have fled there for shelter? and maybe Juhani went back there to go into hiding? if she didnt go with Revan to find the True Sith. Anyhow, I think this place may have some importance. why where you over Taris in the first place? did the Jedi council think Revan found out about the Star Forge there?.. he Rescued Juhani from there (if you talk to her a few times, you'll find out) so maybe they thought you where there for a reason? maybe you where? .. unless It was just about the Mandalorian War?.. Dagobah: Maybe.. if Master Vandar was still alive, he could have gone to Dagobah like Yoda, and maybe he could quote a few "Yoda" sayings.. oh, and I'm not too sure when the Darkside presance entered that Tree/Cave thingy, but maybe if it's a new pc character (as well as the exile) the new pc char could have a vision, like he/she did on Korriban. Telos: Just for an ending celebration.. like from RotJ on Endor lol.. maybe Revan found and killed the True Sith, but the Sith managed to find the Republics main base, and for some reason, they wanted to attack, Revan returns with the Exile (if he dont kill the Exile for being a wound in the force) he could warn bastila with the force bond, and then it all sets into a new Jedi Civil War? Ruusan: This could be a possible world to find out about the Sith. The Sorcerers of Tund, (a group of independently-developed Force users on the world) may be helpful.. maybe one of the sorcerers could join your party too? Carida: a High Gravity world, used for combat training by the Empire.. *shrug* I have nothing to say.. lol.. i like this planet, and since most people are talking about planets in the West Quadrant, then *points at Carida* choose this one Unknown World(Rakatan?): theres Obviously some information there, and it would be cool to see that world again, and get some more information on Revan.. there'd probably be pieces of the Star Forge there, Revan would have came back seeking information on the True Sith. Mandalore: Dxun as gotten flooded with Mandalorian Clans, so Mandalore decides to move back to the Mandalorian homeworld.. maybe the exiles path leads there? or maybe Revans? Party Members: Jolee: Jolee Bindo was kinda cool, I wanted him back in the game on K2 but he wasnt there, but we could loot his robes and junk? is he dead? Bastila & Carth: At some point in the game if Revan still lives, they'll probably be times where Revan is your main PC character.. well anyhow, at the end, Revan, Bastila and Carth could join together one last time? and help destroy the true sith.. who happened to have found telos and is attempting to blow it up? Death Star style :D Juhani: Juhani was pretty pointless in the first game, still.. would be nice to see old faces one last time, my guess is that, during the 5 years, she's gone back to her homeworld of Taris, and is living on the undercity, maybe in hiding, or teaching the ways of the force to force uses she incounters? Mission: After serving with the Republic for 5 years (maybe she did? lol) she leads a small fleet of Repblic soilders to a planet to turn off the shield generator to a World Devistator, there, she comfronts some Ewoks.. no just kidding lol.. maybe she's just apart of a Taris restoration team, who comes across the Ebon Hawk when you dock there, and decides to sneak aboard.. heh, maybe she's strong with the force too? Mira: Apparently, she is said to die protecting her friends or something? maybe she does something like luke, and flys the trenches of the deathstar? and she runs out of missiles so she uses herself? lol.. or maybe Hanhar turned Jedi, and is still trying to kill her, this time, he's brought some Wookiee friends, she gets killed, while she helps her friends escape? or maybe.. a moon falls on her.. like how Chewy died? Exile/Revan: There could be times in the game where these 2 characters can be chosen as main characters, or maybe used for solo quests, I'm gonna guess that these two will battle at the end, and you have a choice to kill revan, or let him kill you or something, who ever wins, is in your party. Along with Atton: Bao-Dur: HK-47: T3: Mandalore for random missions, like on K2 where he helps you destroy the sith ship. New PC guy: the new character should beable to choose from different species this time, like Yoda/Vandars species, Twi'lek, Wookiee, one of those Seers, a Sorcerer from Ruusan, and maybe have a really decent background like Revan and Exile, maybe he's the Choosen one who can bring peace through-out the galaxy? anyhow, the new guy would happen to have a force bond (what you and Kreia had) with Exile (who decided to go alone), who is told to go round up remainding Jedi to help him out. In my opinion, T3, HK and the Exile maybe have left behind his friends and loved ones like Revan did, but this time he took the Ebon Hawk so we get to have a nicer ship, probably a modified Republic multi-person warship, and with the crew you pick up, it would sorta work like when your on the ship, instead of em standing around doing nothing, they could actually be manning the turrets, or walking about like T3.. and this time, we could actually see a Pazaak table, and maybe holo-chess starts as a game? New Party member Species: if we actually get rid of most of the K2 party, like they followed the Exile, and it turns out we can control 2 full parties either somepoint in the game, or as an extra game option (or Expansion), or.. infact they have followed exile, and your starting a fresh game with a new jedi.. then the species i would like to have in my party: (Lightside) Yoda's species - either let us control Master Vandar as a party member, or give us a new Yoda dood, this time, dont make him old, make him quite young, like maybe just turning 100. (Darkside) Gen'Dai - Durge, the bounty hunter who takes Jango Fetts place during the Clone Wars.. apparently Gen'Dai's can live for 1,000 years? or is it, they go into hibernation for 1,000 years? *shrug* Bothan - a new class "Spy", add some stuff to the game, like master Stealth, and not stealth as in using the force field thing... make it so you stick your backs to the wall and stuff metal gear solid style.. and other things. Clawdite - Shape shifter (Zam Wessel) Nautolan - Kit Fitso's species.. lol, there cool Kel Dor - Plo Koon's Species (Darkside) Zabrak - this time, instead of a Bao-Dur.. Zen like Zabrak, make a Darth Maul type species, who lets us change the tatoos as well as the clothes :D (Lightside) Toydarian - Watto: "I'm a toydarian.. mind tricks donta work on me!" oh, and this time, as well as Mandalorians, maybe add a bigger Ubese story, maybe Mandalore leads his Clan into a big battle against the Ubese? *shrug*

apparently, if SWG wasnt being made, then KOTOR would have been online. I cant see anything bad about Star Wars Galaxies, i've been on the forums when the site/forums where released, took part in the beta from the begining and then space and I'm still playing.. the game, in my opinion, lacks content.. once you've done the quests, mastered your professions, taken part in PVP and been ganked by several Jedi. Jedi in SWG suck, there overpowered.. which.. they claim there not, but only the melee classes (unarmed guys, and those with swords) can last against a Saber?.. Range professions die in 2 seconds lol. The Game isnt bad... it's just not that good, "but in time, you will learn to accept it" yah seriously, theres new patches and publishes releasing which is gonna make the game better.. but it's no KOTOR

oh, I just thought you needed Jedi Master cause Kreia says "teach others the ways of the force by becoming a Jedi Master" maybe next time i'll try Lightsaber master

yah, but they dont actually tell you where he is though.. right?.. anyway, search those corpes, then go to the Caves, theres a part with a force cage, vrooks in there

lol, not really sure if you recieve anything, but i think the thugs tells you, the first time i played it, i was kinda confused.. but you have to find Vrook, then the rest of the story carries on.. but i cant remember, i kinda got the Flu lol

but if you've already cleared the encave.. wouldnt you have recieved a datapad or something that tells you where Vrook is? (or was) then theres those Exchange thugs beforeyou leave.. and you have to fight em or something? *cough* I actually know where vrook is.. if you wanna know :D

hey, does anyone know if you "have" to be Jedi Master to beable to teach people the ways of the force?

heh, yeha Force Crush rules.. but the only thing that sucks, is Force Scream.. that does the same amount of damage at master.. or so it seems. lol, i dont know why i keep choosing it.

yeah lightsabers usually work, i didnt expect them to.. but there kinda cool on this game :D

probably for things they removed from the game.. the game kinda seems short, something missing.. and is it even possible to get a Lvl 50 character without cheating?

how about the part your using T3 in the prologue, you see that droid from the original trilogy where Mandalore stands later on, i forget there names, but there like over grown MSE droids, and they say "Tog.. Tog" lol theres one near Kreia, then theres C9 i think it is, in the Cargo hold. did T3 come back with a bunch of droids looking for the Exile or something?

yah when you forfit, and actually beat the time the second race, it says you have to finish the course in order to save your time, or something.. I dont bother racing this time round, i'm constantly in jump mode.

I think that has something to do with Kreia, since she was just using you to get back at Sion and whoever... Sion was her apprentice, i dont really know who Darth Nihilus was, but anyhow, she wanted you to kill them. She set up the Exchange bounty thing saying you where the last jedi too. if you think about it, Vrook said, you get stronger after all the deaths you cause, Kreia knew that, and wanted you to be strong, so you could kill her.. or something. I dont know much, only played the game twice

Theres a few holo-messages talking about Darth Sion, they thought he was dead, Kreia was using Feign Death, and the Exile was in critical condition in the prologue. What I dont understand is where did all those droids come from?, on the Ebon Hawk, theres a bunch of broken droids.. and yeha, it was kinda wierd seeing Sith Troopers on Peragus, even though theres no way they could have boarded without you knowing, unless then entered the station while you where doing the Dormitory part.

I always knew the game was 5 years after.. the first time I saw the handmaiden (the one who steals your ship) I thought she was Bastila

lol, I was bored.. i've completed it a few times now.. I cheated to get HK at the begining so he can help kill the HK-50's to see what he says.. but, you never get to battle other HK's with HK-47 lol

lol, I cheated and got all 3 pieces to start with, and I also got Visas saber, and when I meet Bao-Dur and he asks me why i havent got a saber.. it wont let me build one with the pieces i have *shrug* cheating is bad m'kay :D