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no idea if they have the french style stuff. pasztet z kaczki is what we gravitate to, but we don't get it from tarnowski's... not bacik either though as we make our own. many delis which carry polish foods is gonna have bacik brand, but pasztet z kaczki is not particular hard to make at home and we like our duck. (edit) curious, we recall never seeing bacik brand goods in pittsburgh. if we had to name the three big(er) US cities which is most polish, w/o checking a search engine, we would immediate guess chicago, pittsburgh and buffalo. we recall a distinct absence o' bacik in pittsburgh. HA! Good Fun!

https://polishfooddirect.com/ is our second favorite source for sausage. highly recommend these guys HA! Good Fun!

sitting and waiting to take a first year civ pro final, am hearing a guy behind us murmuring same thing over and over. i must not fear. fear is the mind-killer. fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. i will face my fear. i will permit it to pass over me and through me. and when it has gone past, i will turn the inner eye to see its path. where the fear has gone there will be nothing. only i will remain. at the time we thought it were kinda funny to hear a dude audibly repeating the litany against fear mantra before a final, but it so stuck with us we have been doing in similar situations ever since that day. HA! Good Fun!

gonna take a bit o' analysis to unpack this. will sooner than later offer thoughts, but regardless is a significant if arcane development. HA! Good Fun!

for those who may have been skeptical regarding our claims o' deer boldness. got even closer 'cause she wouldn't leave in spite o' Gromnir doing a barbaric yawp and making wild arm gestures. shrubbery looks so bad 'cause o' the deer. HA! Good Fun!

so am thinking you gotta ask why would a person reference a wapo story from may (edit: not march. had march on brain from the single training date for cops coupled with our dyslexia. fail) after we made available the ap timeline with video corroboration from july? somebody in this thread linked the complete surveillance video which lasts over an hour, so find the time after 11:37 when ramos emerged from the class in which he were barricaded and link to that time stamp, 'cause we didn't see such. is quite possible it were overlooked by us and is failed to be addressed in the ap article which includes released surveillance video, but please find a contemporaneous article and/or time stamp video. no excuse for low energy. as to bravery and competence and pointing... what? yeah, the events is not equivalent. nz cops were never fired 'pon by tarrant in spite o' fact the nz cops had time to open the hatch o' the subaru with the intent o' handcuffing the suspect from behind? can clear see manning withdraw weapons from the vehicle via open driver side door and then drag the suspect outta the vehicle with one hand? serious? at no time during eighteen seconds o' wapo video before tarrant gets the rifle butt and however much time it took to open the hatch on the subaru (plus who knows how much additional time) were the nz cops threatened with a firearm or the knife tarrant had on his vest. no hostages. no closed room. etc. use the two disparate encounters to compare cop actions is ridiculous and am suspecting we once again got an audience o' one 'cause is nobody who is gonna be reasonable and see noteworthy points o' comparison 'tween individual cops on the scene at uvalde and those arresting tarrant following his car crash. regardless, you did the strawman, saying we would be applauding bravery. is literal hard to find a more exact and literal example o' strawman. our response included an umpteenth repetition as to how we did not see evidence o' cowardliness from individual cops, which is hardly a strawman on our part. logic is hard. gonna drag this out forever... again. HA! Good Fun!

to be fair, democrats is trying to squeeze as much mileage as possible on abortion 'cause they know that along with trump, it is the one issue on which the gop is obvious vulnerable before the midterms. pretty much every poll suggests a large % of republicans is actual in favour o' a woman's right to choose. the Constitution does already guarantee a fundamental right o' interstate travel and any state limit on such is gonna get the skunk eye even from the current Court. however, is possible some state tries and comes up with a loophole approach and fed legislation might offer better and more immediate protection as requiring pregnant women to rely on the courts for relief, particular given obvious time constraints, is an unnecessary burden. HA! Good Fun!

well, they didn't actual say that, but for all practical purposes that is what is the result o' shelby v holder (2013) and brnovich v. dnc (2021). eliminated preclearance from vra and also recognized how disparate impact alone on minorities were not enough to invalidate voting limits. gonna note we warned folks what were coming... oh, and on the horizon we got moore v. harper, and at least four Justices has expressed support for the independent state legislature theory. article I of the Constitution includes the following bit: "the times, places and manner of holding elections for senators and representatives, shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof." proponents o' the independent state legislature theory says that means state courts and even state Constitutions is irrelevant when deciding what is valid insofar as states handling o' fed elections. 2013 were the start, but this Court is gonna make possible a return o' jim crow and potential worse. HA! Good Fun!

height of cold war reagan years, so... edit: anecdote we only had one teacher ever demand an explanation as to why we didn't do pledge. told her we were raised pine ridge by our grandfather who were still kinda angry 'bout both wounded knee incidents. we explained our grandfather had discouraged us from doing the pledge but that he would be ok with us taking an oath to defend the Constitution if we joined the military or became a US senator... he requested other situations be open for future discussion and debate. teacher were a bit nonplussed by our response but she never again brought up the subject. HA! Good Fun!

that isn't how am recalling it. we never said the pledge in high school and nobody f'ing cared. got a few funny looks day 1 but by end o' the first week it were a non issue. on advice from our grandfather, we would stand with the rest o' the class but we did not recite pledge. *shrug* in our classes there were frequent some jehovah witness or other religious objector who didn't do pledge so were hardly shocking Gromnir didn't join. btw, has been illegal to compel pledge reciting since 1943. we had US government issues when we were young (still do) but much o' those disappeared when we went to europe to teach and then realized US were doing it far better than we thought. HA! Good Fun!

ff to 5:49... or don't. the secret service angle is worth listening to, but am admitting we will, as usual, wait 'til we get a bit more info 'cause while it is possible the text loss due to phone recycling were coincidental, am thinking it would be foolish to not look into the matter further. regardless, why we post is 'cause you got a panel o' dems and liberals voicing their opinion 'bout a trump Presidential run and the impact o' such an announcement. don't need agree with them but is interesting to see what liberals is saying 'bout the prospects o' a trump Presidential run, yes? btw, prison and/or a felony conviction does not preclude a Presidential run. there is an age, citizenship and residency requirement in the Constitution, but we have had candidates run for President while imprisoned although they have not been major party candidates. am suspecting prison has no impact on trump popularity with his base and the remainder o' conservatives who voted trump in 2020 could not be counted on to sudden find the will to resist. repost link: ARIZONA REP. WHO DETAILED TRUMP‘S ILLEGAL PLOT TO STEAL THE ELECTION SAYS HE’D VOTE FOR TRUMP IN 2024 is mindboggling stuff but only in the abstract. these kinda stories disappoint and maybe even horrify, but does it surprise you bowers announced he would vote for trump 2024? shouldn't. democrats suck at voting, but fear o' another four years o' trump got them off their arses in 2020. in any event, prison is not precluding a trump 2024 Presidential run. HA! Good Fun!

https://www.wsj.com/video/uvalde-surveillance-video-shows-police-waiting-in-hallway-during-shooting/07400042-D537-47A6-849C-310594CCD101.html feel free to match timeline with video. 11:37 a.m. — Ramos fires 11 rounds as officers approach the classroom doors, according to school surveillance footage. McCraw said two officers received “grazing wounds” from Ramos. HA! Good Fun!

*sigh* where did we accuse you specific o' claiming uvalde cop cowardice? we will wait. we keep repeating the generalized observations 'bout the delay and how we believes such fits into the uvalde narrative. obsidian board posters has claimed uvalde cops were cowards due to their inaction and a couple times in responding to you we has reiterated, generally, we can't see cowardice. you being intentional obtuse 'cause this time we didn't add "charge in" to make obvious we were speaking to more than just you? converse, zor goes strawman with "Nah, you'd be waxing lyrical about their competence and bravery." you are net helping self with the logic fails, but false dichotomy and strawman yourself into knots if you want. as to police comments from the article, we noted already the police description does not require us to ignore the video. before wapo video even starts at least one o' the nz cops had time to go to the rear o' the car and open the hatch. at the start o' the wapo video, nobody were near the rear o' the car. so how much time elapses during which cops is not fired 'pon by tarrant and he is eventual wrestled outta the car and thrown to the ground before getting a rifle butt? dunno, but is so not like uvalde. stun grenades which may or may not have been available? *chuckle* a classroom situation with hostages and unknown positions o' shooter and obstacles. a shooter clear not discombobulated by a car crash. etc. you see what is clear different as analogous. from ap article 11:33 a.m. — Ramos enters the school through the unlocked door on the school’s west side and begins shooting into adjoining classrooms 111 and 112 from the hallway, school surveillance footage shows. Ramos then enters, exits and re-enters classrooms 111 and 112. He fires more than 100 rounds over about 4 minutes, McCraw said on May 27. 11:35 a.m. — Three city police officers, who have two rifles, enter the school through the same door Ramos entered, according to school surveillance footage. 11:36 a.m. — Arredondo, another school district officer and two more city police officers enter through the building’s south door, according to school surveillance footage. Then three more city police officers and another officer from the school district enter through the west door. 11:37 a.m. — Ramos fires 11 rounds as officers approach the classroom doors, according to school surveillance footage. McCraw said two officers received “grazing wounds” from Ramos. 11:38 a.m. — An unknown officer says, “He’s contained in this office,” said state police, who cited body camera footage in the timeline they released June 21. McCraw testified on June 21 that the school floor plan shows no office in the classroom. ... (edit) 12:21 p.m. — Ramos fires four rounds, according to school surveillance footage. According to body camera footage, Arredondo says: “Can you go get a breaching tool? Like for a trailer house?” McCraw said during his June 21 testimony, “So if this is a barricaded subject, why is he still firing?” McCraw said on May 27 that at this time, officers moved down the hall. 12:23 p.m. — According to body camera footage, Arredondo says: “We’ve lost two kids. These walls are thin. If he starts shooting we’re going to lose more kids. I hate to say we have to put those to the side right now.” ... 12:30 p.m. — According to body camera footage, Arredondo says: “OK. We’ve cleared out everything except for that room. We still have people down there just past the flag to the right. But, uh, we’re ready to breach but that door is locked.” ... 12:50 p.m. — Officers breach the classroom and fatally shoot Ramos, according to surveillance footage. McCraw said on May 27 that they breached the door using keys they got from the janitor because the door was locked. He said June 21 that it turned out that the classroom door could not be locked from the inside by design and there was no indication officers tried to open it during the standoff. He also said a teacher had reported before the shooting that the lock was broken. State police say an hour and 14 minutes went by from the time police entered the school to when Ramos was killed. ... an hour and 14 minutes is at the 11:35/11:36 mark (am assuming a round up or down explains one minute discrepancy but is hardly important) which is following the time the shooter were entering and exiting classrooms. by 11:37 ramos never leaves and has already shot and injured multiple cops. no exits from classroom is noted afterwards. would be disappointing if such happened, but again we would blame on leadership and we have already heaped considerable scorn 'pon leadership and their delay in dealing with the uvalde shooter. pointing out the failure o' the cops to stop the shooter sooner is pointless as we already agreed to the situation were handled poorly. for chrissakes, we has noted how the cops didn't know for some considerable period o' time the door to the classroom were unlocked while they searched for a key. from the timeline it looks as if they were spending all their time looking for keys and breaching tools in spite o' an unlocked door. serious. unless is some kinda hidden info which would exonerate, the folks in charge at uvalde screwed the p00ch and you making such a point is one o' those irrelevancies you complained 'bout 'cause we already agreed. duh. were uvalde fail due to poor training which some o' them only got once a couple months previous. were uvalde due to mishandling by leadership? dunno. you is the guy making the assumptions. Gromnir, on the other hand, recognizes how different were the tarrant situation from uvalde while considering the many unknowns regarding training, instructions given to the cops at the school and the perversity o' the universe which may have the entire delay and numerous avoidable deaths explained by the absence o' anybody checking to see if the classroom door were unlocked. they got keys from a janitor. surely the janitor knew the doors couldn't lock? is hard to believe... or not given human nature. HA! Good Fun! ps apologies as the 12:21 were relevant in our estimation and somehow we failed to copy and paste it along with 12:23

we read the article. didn't prevent us from watching the video. our observations is hardly irrelevant 'cause as you keep ignoring, those observations illustrate just how different were the situations you inexplicable are trying to compare. non analogous and yet you somehow keep using as some kinda proof o'... what exact? in the video o' tarrant, the cops could see the suspect who were plain visible to the cops on the scene as windshields is purposeful transparent, unlike the walls o' a uvalde classroom. was a lengthy delay 'tween ramming o' car and the suspect being removed from the vehicle and at no time did tarrant fire on the cops. the uvalde shooter had fired 'pon police and had not just been on the receiving end o' a high speed auto collision. oh, and even the nz cops were surprised tarrant were alone in the car. we know that bit o' info 'cause we read the article. is unlike uvalde where the shooter had a room full o' kids with him. with one hand a cop pulls tarrant outta the crashed car? serious? try that with an uncooperative male adult. ever seen videos where it takes a bunch o' cops to wrestle even a smallish subject to the ground and restrain him? those ain't exceptional. the nz cop got tarrant outta the car and to the ground using only one hand before the suspect were struck with the rifle. have personal been one o' those guys trying to restrain somebody who is uncooperative. is not easy to wrestle a large primate even if you got a significant size advantage. sure the cops hit the bad guy with a rifle butt and nobody is gonna second guess, but tarrant clear weren't putting up the kinda resistance any reasonable person would expect if he were well and trying to do harm to the cops. "Carmody called for Manning to enter the vehicle from behind and handcuff the driver with his hands up. Manning went around and opened the hatchback and saw what appeared to be four improvised incendiary devices - petrol cans with objects taped to them." note the wapo included video begins with hatch on the subaru up and manning nowhere near the back o' the car. so how much time had elapsed after impact wherein the terrorist were sitting in the driver seat, not firing at the cops? so much different. stun grenades? did the first guys on the scene at uvalde have stun grenades? have said 'bout a dozen times the delay by law enforcement taking action has not been explained satisfactory. am seeing no excuse offered for the delay. stun grenades. ballistic shields. whatever. how could it take so long to come up with a workable plan, but once the shooter were behind a door in a classroom with kid hostages, expecting individual line cops to ignore leadership and rush through the door is not reasonable and hardly deserves a blanket condemnation o' cowardice. even if the first guys on the scene had stun grenades, the effectiveness o' such devices is hardly 100% particular if somebody is expecting, has ear protection and/or has sheltered or is protected from blast, as with tables or furniture acting as obstacles. do you know what the situation were in the classroom with the uvalde shooter? where were he positioned relative to the door? did he line up hostages between himself and the doorway so he would have a clear line o' sight to fire at anybody coming through the door while the kids became human shields for his defense? seem like the kinda stuff you would want to know, yes? and strawman much? we never claimed uvalde cops were brave, 'cause we don't know the situation o' individual cops and what orders they were following and what steps were being taken. am unable to label individual line cops as cowards for not rushing into oncoming weapon fire, but is not an either/or proposition. just 'cause am uncertain o' cowardice it most certain does not require our admiration and praise for bravery, but logic continues to be a problem for zor. so not same situations as with tarrant and am so not applauding uvalde police bravery. the delay to come up with a viable plan at the uvalde school, particular as the shooter were murdering kids in the classroom, is in our mind unacceptable. if is an explanation for such a lengthy delay we would consider such, but so far nobody in authority has explained the delay. unforgivable. nevertheless, the fact a few months previous some uncertain amount o' uvalde cops got unspecific active shooter training, or that they were armed with military gear is hardly convincing us the individual cops on site were cowards. HA! Good Fun!

blt season is almost 'pon us in our location. shelf stable tomatoes is a bit tasteless compared to the good stuff, so if you can find a decent farmer's market am gonna highly recommend trying such a source. am not offering for the recipe but rather the process. mentioned a few pages back how simple is mayo, but am nevertheless confident many people has never made mayo. our personal recipe is not gonna match anything you see on the internet, which is a good thing as am making to match our taste, however, we got a couple recommendations using the video ingredients and quantities as a baseline. 1) you do not need a full cup of oil is nothing wrong with a full cup, but we typical go with 3⁄4 C or even a smidge less. am preferring our mayo to be on the lighter side. if you want something which tastes closer to most store bought brands, use vegetable oil. grapeseed is an ideal choice but our most frequent choices is avocado or vegetable oil. even so, you willget full and stable emulsion even with 3⁄4 C o' oil. 2) do not use extra virgin olive oil an immersion blender is the wrong tool if you want to use extra virgin olive oil 'cause it is gonna make the mayo bitter. if you serious wanna do immersion and use olive oil, make sure is extra light olive oil. 3) consider adding a full teaspoon of salt salt makes most food taste better right up until you hit point where is too salty. 4) one full egg as 'posed to 2 egg yolks works perfectly fine 5) garlic addition gets you closer to aioli and may be overpowering would recommend not trying to make with garlic your first few attempts especial if you are hoping to get something close-but-better than best foods/hellmans or duke's. 6) sugar is not our jam, but... particular if you prefer miracle whip, add a half teaspoon or more o' sugar. if you want like dukes, then skip sugar but use vegetable oil, and go 50/50 white distilled vinegar/cider vinegar and add a bit o' paprika. 7) room temp ingredients you don't wanna try and emulsify with cold egg, water, mustard, whatever to room temp oil. take your egg and whatnot outta the fridge +20 minutes before prep. ... for reference, when having a blt, we make mayo with the following ingredients: 1 large egg 2 teaspoons lime juice 1 tablespoon white distilled vinegar + typical 1-2 teaspoons of cider vinegar, but am admitted fluid as to how tangy we want the mayo 3⁄4 teaspoon salt 3⁄4 cup vegetable oil we then let cool in the fridge after you got your emulsion as it will firm up a smidge. downside is you got a fair amount o' mayo with this and if you make a single sandwich, your remaining homemade mayo is gonna last no more than a week. HA! Good Fun! ps we mentioned tomatoes at the start o' the post. the one variety o' tomatoes which ain't been bred for shelf stability is cherry tomatoes. cherry tomatoes is not a great option for blt, though not terrible. regardless, if you don't mind a bit o' extra sweetness in your recipes and you want more tomato flavour, consider replacing whatever tomato you ordinarily use with a similar volume o' cherry tomatoes. grow your own or find good farm tomatoes is also viable options.

After arrest in rape of 10-year-old girl, Fox News hosts shift focus Some of Fox’s most high-profile hosts — Tucker Carlson, Jesse Watters, Laura Ingraham — suggested this week that the account of the 10-year-old rape victim was a “hoax” and “politically timed disinformation,” and claimed that the Biden administration was “lying” about the case after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. ... Later on Wednesday, Carlson and Ingraham shifted their attention to Fuentes and his uncertain citizenship status. The hosts featured chyrons on their shows saying that the 10-year-old girl “in Biden’s abortion story” was raped by an “illegal immigrant.” Assistant Franklin County prosecutor Dan Meyer said during Wednesday’s hearing that he believes Fuentes, 27, is undocumented, according to video of the arraignment. ... the thing is, as we mentioned earlier in the thread, the hypothetical thirteen-year-old rape victim were specific addressed by ohio legislators previous to their new rape ban being made law. deflection and evasion is such a common tactic these days. Ohio bill would ban abortion without rape exemption Democrats were ready to ask questions, with most of them coming from Reps. Richard Brown (D-Canal Winchester), Dr. Beth Liston (D-Dublin) and Tavia Galonski (D-Akron). However, Majority Floor Leader Rep. Bill Seitz (R-Cincinnati) jumped in. The intense back and forth between Brown and Schmidt revolved around the lack of exemptions for rape and incest. “So under this bill, if a 13-year-old girl, let’s say, was raped by a serial rapist, broke into her house, or maybe more likely raped by a family member, which occurs frequently — unfortunately, this bill would require this 13-year-old to carry this felons fetus to term, regardless of any emotional or psychological damage or trauma that may be inflicted upon this 13-year-old girl to deliver this, felons a fetus. Is that right?” he asked. Schmidt responded and said that rape is a difficult issue. “It’s a shame that it happens, but there’s an opportunity for that woman, no matter how young or old she is,” she said. The opportunity — which would be the only option — is to deliver that baby. “She can choose to raise the child, she can choose to give that child to a loving family member or to give it to someone else — and that child can grow up and be something magnificent, a wonderful family person, cure cancer,” she said. “Just because you have emotional scars doesn’t give you the right, right to take the life.” Brown followed up. “You earlier said every life is important — the life of a 13-year-old girl in my hypothetical is important,” he added. He then brings up the pregnant juvenile going to middle school, saying that kids are “mean, they’re evil and they’re going to say all kinds of bad things to their classmate about her condition.” “I think this girl has rights every bit as much as the zygote that has rights under your bill,” he said. “This girl has rights, and I don’t believe we can lose sight of the rights of the person who was raped.” Supporters of the bill, like Ohio Right to Life, say just because someone commits a crime, doesn’t mean we should have the right to “purposely” end a life. “They can live a dignified life that shows them that they can overcome certain circumstances,” Elizabeth Whitmarsh, a spokesperson for the organization, said. “That might seem impossible in the moment, but they’re able to get through it.” ... not shocking. not unforeseen. however, am gonna suggest that caitlin bernard should not have mentioned the incident and most definite were mistaken in speaking to a newspaper 'bout a ten-year-old rape victim from ohio. the doctor, in spite o' having good intentions and recognizing that she did not release specific patient info, knew or shoulda' known that the girl's identity would be discovered once bernard made her story public. innuendo has the capacity to make statements tortious or illegal even if the speaker does not explicit reveal the identity o' an individual. bernard quite possible has added to the victim's nightmare by making the child's rape a matter o' public interest. but again, the ohio gop were okie dokie with thirteen-year-old victims o' incestous rape being unable to obtain an abortion in ohio, so their indignation and deflection today is hardly convincing. "Just because you have emotional scars doesn’t give you the right, right to take the life." at least the gop authors o' the rape ban were being honest 'bout the absolutist position.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1184370/view/3400797688635109882 august 11 is new dlc release. september 29 is console and enhanced edition release date. HA! Good Fun!

so wait, the cops didn't plow into tarrant's car after he had already shot dozens? we just assumed that from video? would seem to be a significant difference, no? edit: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/03/16/this-cellphone-videos-shows-alleged-new-zealand-mosque-attackers-dramatic-arrest/ tarrant is pulled outta car, flops onto the ground and then is struck with rifle butt. 18 second mark. how much time elapsed previous to start o' video is unknown but were time enough for cops to get out of their car and reach tarrant. tarrant had plenty o' time to set off vest before being struck if that were the plan and if he were in condition to do so. just as you assume he were dazed from rifle strike, tarrant's behaviour previous to being struck suggests he were dazed from the car crash. keyboard heroes not seeing difference 'tween subduing a guy with no hostages following a car crash and suspect visible the entire time v. "charging in" to a closed room through a single doorway not knowing where is the shooter, children and other obstacles in the room. no doubt is cowardice to not wanna be the first cop through that doorway, eh? not analogous and should be unnecessary to point out differences. HA! Good Fun!

@Guard Dog shared this story Conservatives Called an Ohio Rape Case Fake News. Now an Arrest Has Been Made the whole situation is revolting with people attempting to score political points and gaslighting w/o any sense o' shame.

the active shooter training for uvalde cops happened in late march, so were relative recent, but am having no idea just who were part o' the training. is unlikely such were the entire department. all texas police departments is 'posed to get some kinda active shooter training, but how each department handles such training is typically american with every sheriff and police chief deciding what is sufficient. training were a monday and happened once, on a single day? were a leadership thing or did line cops get training and if so how many? participants were informed to embrace "immediate, decisive action." have few details 'bout training. regardless, immediate and decisive didn't happen. then what? typical such training involves role-playing to address the what if situations. got a shooter with an ar-15 in a room with a bunch o' kids and cops is outside. immediate and decisive sounds swell and all, but with a doorway 'tween hero cops and the shooter, decisive looks a bit more hazardous than ramming a suspects' car. immediate, decisive action mighta' prevented such, but once the shooter were in a classroom with kids and a doorway between him and any rescuers... regardless, raise your hand if you thinks some number o' small town cops receiving a single day o' unspecified active shooter training made 'em experienced and qualified to handle for reals active shooter incidents. in our specific area o' ca, regular scheduled drills is being done by cops with cooperation o' schools. such happens in more than a few municipalities, but is hardly universal. for uvalde all we ever saw mentioned is the one training day w/o much enlightenment regarding what were the training involved save for media repeating the less than helpful, "immediate, decisive action" mantra. oh, and why do we mention car ramming? our recollection is the christchurch mosque shooter were arrested after he fled shooting scenes via car... had already killed dozens when the cops rammed his vehicle at high speed. cops pulled the shooter out o' the vehicle, and the killer were hardly moving and looked bloodied... although admitted the crude mosaic stuff made difficult to discern details from rando pedestrian video we saw on interweb capturing the arrest. maybe not exact the same as uvalde, eh? in any event, is much more difficult to be brave in real life than to accuse others o' cowardice via the internet. is avoiding the draft during war cowardly? perhaps is times when avoiding the draft may be brave? depends on whether you respect the "draft dodger" as to whether you brand him a coward? perhaps passage o' time and opinions 'bout the war in question changes hearts and minds on the issue? muhammad ali. donald trump. if it were 1966 or thereabouts, most americans woulda' criticized ali, including jackie robinson btw. am thinking the situations o' trump and ali is diferent, but we also have more details 'regarding trump and ali as 'posed to broad stroke criticisms o' cops in tactical gear. HA! Good Fun! ps as part o' our mcle, we took a single day course in mediation and arbitration. got a certificate and everything in addition to receiving our needed hours. bona fide. were held at the la playa in carmel, and our law firm paid so we said, "why not?" if you think for an instant the course made us competent to handle arbitration and mediation you are nuts. furthermore, we ain't never yet been part o' a mediation in which we were being fired 'pon with an ar-15. am suspecting whatever training we received via the one day course mighta' slipped our mind if our heart rate were exceeding 100 and the prospect o' our imminent death were something other than a philosophical quandary.

as long as cops is provided lightsabres there is no genuine problem. blast doors is a terrible idea but admitted no worse than ted cruz's call for a single entrance for schools. more than 750 texas schools have 1300+ students. can't imagine how things could go wrong in an emergency with a single exit. HA! Good Fun!

not allowing armed and angry parents into the school is hardly unreasonable. duh. add a chaotic and uncontrollable element to an active shooter scenario? am not needing be an expert on such to recognize terribad. and there has been no meaningful corroboration o' the claim cops rescued their own kids save as part o' a general rescue effort o' kids in other classrooms. weren't as if cops were rescuing their own kids and leaving others behind, or at least is no meaningful proof o' such and is noteworthy there is no new stories making such claims. so again, what were the failures you "previously" observed which led you to an explanation o' cowardice? am not gonna help you with this. be specific. as have said before, am placing at least a portion o' blame on cop leadership 'cause am unsure how to explain the time delay before entering the classroom. sure, is hardly unforeseeable that there might be an effort by those in charge to minimize loss o' life o' cops and innocent civilians. rush in w/o a plan or intelligence might be unwise even if folks such as sarex would see as brave... right up until a bunch o' kids and cops got shot and killed. but again, with each passing minute, the failure to do anything makes for a bad look for those in charge. still not seeing any explanation for cowardice finding... other than your imagination. you admit you don't know the cop job and you clear don't know the details o' what individual cops were being told to do or what training they might have previous received. nevertheless, based on vague "previously" observed somethings, you feel confident in labeling the uvalde cops who did not "charge in" to be cowards? precise 'cause Gromnir don't know details, and am not making assumptions, and 'cause am having never needed to rush headlong into oncoming weapon fire to prove our bravery to faceless keyboard jockeys, we do not feel comfortable labeling individual uvalde cops as cowards. HA! Good Fun!

agreed, which is why the following is so weird: having seen other unspecified police fails, not involving same cops, he makes an educated assumption that the uvalde guys is cowards? dude. might as well finish the response to @Sarex so first you complain 'bout Gromnir assumptions and then immediate make an assumption based on past bad acts of cops not the uvalde cowards. *chuckle* then you make a strawman argument. *eye roll* advice: never start with, "what you are saying," 'cause looks like you cannot be trusted to then describe what were said. we has explained many times how US police literal cannot be standardized (training, hiring standards, etc.) save through organic homogenization. state police power is literal off limits to the fed. unconstitutional. nevertheless, we didn't blame uvalde on systemic problems and keep in mind we never even conceded your point 'bout cowardice so... fail again? am not certain where the fail at uvalde were other than our belief, based on the admitted lack o' an explanation, that the delay o' law enforcement to enter the classroom where the shooter had retreated were excessive. seems like a fail further up the food chain than individual cops on the scene, but again, am admitting working on a lack o' info 'cause law enforcement still hasn't provided an explanation. btw, we purpose stopped quoting you where you admitted you don't know what cop job is 'cause we specific addressed what cop duty most certainly is not in the post you got nothing from save a spelling correction. "protect the public order" is a decent enough identification o' the duty in question, but as already stated, that don't carry with it any duty owed to any specific individual. the cop has a duty to the community, but like it or not, she don't have a duty to save or protect any individual even if the need is obvious and the cop is capable o' rendering the necessary aid. is no duty to "charge in" just 'cause people is in danger. so, add basic reading fail too. nevertheless we got you to at least concede you were in fact asking cops to hurl themselves into the breach and that failure to do so amounted to cowardice. baby steps. HA! Good Fun!

ps keep in mind how since the day o' the uvalde incident we has repeated the same observation regarding time: we have yet to hear a valid explanation as to why it took so long for there to be any meaningful law enforcement response. just 'cause sarex and others expect cops to be willing to sacrifice their lives for the sake o' their fellow citizens don't make it so, however it took near an hour to come up with a plan enter the classroom? we were waiting for a valid explanation as to the delay, but given how much tie has elapsed, am thinking is fair to assume there is no good excuse. HA! Good Fun!

and 'round we go. at least you ain't pretending no more. we have shown previous how there is no duty in fact for cops to rush in and save people. your expectations do not match reality or legal duty. "When the alternative is to just let the bodies hit the floor? I would say yes, they are supposed to charge in." these guys is trained to hand out parking tickets and break up domestic disputes, both o' which is unfortunate and unnecessarily dangerous in this country. some police departments train for active shooters at schools. some. you know how many different police departments there is in the US? they all got potential different training and standards. how much training does ordinary local cops get for dealing with an uvalde situation? very much depends on the department and department leadership. you know those details? nevertheless, sarex believes not only should those cops in uvalde charge into a situation where they know an individual with murderous intent and an ar-15 lies in wait, but sarex holds such a belief w/o knowing what cop supervisors were telling those individual coward cops at the time. as for military gear, we has more than once complained 'bout local departments spending money on such extravagances, but again, even if your local cop has military gear it don't mean they is soldiers. not same training. not same duties and obligations. is an irrelevant observation. massive disconnect. am suspecting most folks recognize how the secret service folks is called 'pon to do the extraordinary. nevertheless, whenever an ordinary cop making ~$45k a year fails to meet the same expectations as secret service, we see their bravery questioned. if "charging in" is what we demand o' the guy who has slight more demanding hiring standards than walmart greeter, then the appreciation o' the sacrifice and bravery o' secret service loses its meaning and value. nevertheless uvalde happens and people pretend to be shocked average cop didn't hurl himself into the breech to save all those kids. unreasonable. HA! Good Fun!