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But there was no predefinition. A man is what he does, not the sum of his memories. (Or something like that: Kwato from Total Recall.) You had as much choice as with any character in any RPG; the same as the Exile: you could choose Dark or Light or anywhere in between. (In fact I think there were more choices in K1.) I don't follow your argument. (Perhaps if you stopped zipping around making cute one-liners on fifteen different threads and thought about a couple for a longer time you might make some more sense? ) Revan was your PC to do with what you wanted. Save the Republic or destroy it. Just kill Malak on the way, please.

... And GL probably doesn't know who to cast as you in the film.

Well, much as I'd like to prevent you from having your world shattered, the game exists in the real world and as such other people play it and have female characters (like me -- the same as in BG and NwN). Hey, you have your all-male cast: I prefer an all-female cast: viva la difference. Just don't start propping up your views with specious arguments like "women can't do what men do", because it just isn't true.

Yes..why shouldn't I have..I think it was silly...at that point my character seemed not to be mine anymore..especially because he\she was getting her memory back I didn't like it one bit... IMHO,people <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Baley, two words: Role Play. I think you are confusing the term, much the way Bruce Willis acts: he doesn't play different characters, he plays Bruce Willis in a new story. :D

FYI: Third person is what you are referring to as "4th person" and First Person is what you are referring to as "3rd Person". I think you're referring to the isometric view when you speak about "4th Person", like the view you get in the Civilization / Total War games. You can change from isometric to third person view in NwN. I actually prefer a "God view". I think the way forward is to have an unlimited zoom, so you can start at planet level then zoom all the way down to the blood gushing from a knife wound on your arm. (Of course there should be hotkeys mapped to favourite magnifications.)

Ok Baley, I think you've made yourself abundantly clear on the topic of which KotOR game you prefer. The Influence concept, as Lauch said above, was a terrific idea that went nowhere. (Incidentally, Padmi, I expect the interactions were in the Ebon Hawk in order to keep them simple, no need to have multiple backgrounds etc.) I found the side quests much more engaging in K1; remember killing the Trandoshans and the secret (ssshh!) assassin guild? Bland? They were incidental NPCs, and they were fleshed out. I can't think of too many in K2 apart from a couple of Mandalorians on Dxun, and they were very close to the critical path of the narrative. I don't need to remind you that just because you don't role play a certain way doesn't mean it should be hampered. And the reason males are lecherous in the game is because they are (for the most part) lecherous in reality. Although, I would like to have seen some different interactions, too.

This merely highlights your lack of imagination and in no way places an artificial gender barrier. Women can't destroy millions of people? Are you mad? If I were in the habit of making sweeping generalizations I would say that, when push comes to shove, a woman will be more callous than a mere male any day -- especially if something important is at stake, like her loved ones. You really need to widen your social interaction to include some women -- it will do you good.

The only thing I found wanting, before I played KotOR2, was size. I would have been happy to run around the KotOR universe as Revan if there were more quests in it -- even being stuck on level 20.

Exactly, there is a je ne s'ais quoi above and beyond pixel shading; otherwise a text adventure would never get off the ground. And besides, the graphics in Deus Ex are sufficient to carry the story: I still feel virtiginous on a precipice like the edge of the top of a building. No, what we need is an immersive story with characters that seem to breath and bleed and cry.

It certainly had the desired effect (one of them, anyway) of making the character revelant to galactic history. Instead of being "the one who will stop Revan" we become Revan. I liked it. That said, I wouldn't like to see it again. I am over amnesia. Build an engaing story, even if you have to have multiple start points to involve different people, like Bioware's new Dragon Age.

Nuts. Graphics are not primary. I just played Deus Ex again, and even though the game requires DirectX 7.a and 64MB RAM / 8MB VRAM, it still makes for a better game than KotOR2.

Sure, just like the Australian outback must be the best place in the world: billions of flies can't be wrong. Popularity is no indication of quality. The two metrics do not have a strong association. I never said it was a bad game/franchise (even if it is a bit long in the tooth), I said I didn't find it engaging after hours of repetitive tail-chasing. It's not so much an RPG as an interactive graphic novel. You have your views, and I am happy for you to enjoy your love-in with the other millions who like the game.

I disagree. The Jedi Masters didn't tell us anything. Sure they had a lot to say, but none of it was consistent -- either with some central plot, or with each other. Vrook and Kavar flat out contradict each other almost every time they speak. At least there was some point to the Star Maps, they were beacons heralding the next, secret bit. Also you couldn't destroy the Star Maps completely because they repair themselves. And I liked the fact that the planets were out-of-control automatic gardeners: oops left the tap on for 20 000 years so looks like we've got km high trees ... )

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Yes..exactly..here's a Review One of my favourite adventure games <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah, Baley, I thought you had a few moments too long for sleep. Thanks for the info: I think I will just squeeze it onto my system: Final Grade: A System Requirements: Windows 95 or higher Pentium 90 MHz CPU 16 MB RAM 16 bit SVGA graphics card with 2 MB video memory HD with 175 MB available 4x CD-Rom drive Microsoft compatible mouse Windows supported sound card Here is the real universe: Reality; I'm stuck in some weird place where smart people are ridiculed for being different ...

Baley, without me downloading the game, what sort is it? It sounds like a text adventure, like Infocom did a couple of, in the eighties: Suspect, The Witness, Leather Godesses of Phobos -- oh, hang on that wasn't one!

Then you have your own idiom; if you convince enough people that can be standard English. Oh no! I will be lost reading another dictionary... ... Thanks for the link -- i love this sort of stuff! I checked amour, it comes from the old French "armeure", to wit: 1297, "mail, defensive covering worn in combat," from O.Fr. armeure, from L. armatura "arms, equipment," from arma "arms, gear." The word might have died with jousting if not for late 19c. transference to metal-shielded machinery beginning with U.S. Civil War ironclads (first attested in this sense in an 1855 report from the U.S. Congressional Committee on Naval Affairs). Obviously a US English work, too, as there was no mention of "armour". I guess you might have a point with the US coining (or re-coining) the word for the warships; I would assume that either there is an accepted practice for taking words from French into English, or more probably, the word already existed in UK English from its original meaning.

Try turning the movies off in the configuration dialogue, before you start the game. You can always turn them back on again, and -- worst case -- you can play the game without them.

Revan in a Vader outfit? Yes Mistress! :D

The star maps looked cooler than the Jedi Masters (we even saw Vrook before, in K1). The Jedi Masters gave us forms, though. I liked that. PS Where are the star maps, now? And the forgidden planet -- it should be accessible as normal, now. After all Revan killed everyone on the damn planet.

Jade Empire is only Xbox. More likely is Dragon Age.

The British film industry must be on the wrong side of your vinculum, then: certainly any modern James Bond film would be about 26 sseconds long if you removed the product placements ...

The accepted idiom is to use the vowel indefinite article "an" before a silent "h", so not in front of "hotel", but yes in front of "hors d'oeuvres". PS Hertford is spelt with an "e".

That's the kind of backward-facing mentality we need! Don't make the commercials more interesting, make them mandatory.

Also, please don't PM spam; you have placed your request in the forum (or two), so just be patient and wait for an answer like everyone else. Thanks.