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If you say so. I'd rather have information regarding the number of sidequests, their complexity, number of NPCs with something to do, how many major areas are there going to be, etc, than something as vague as "you'll beat it in 30 hours". 30 hours of filler are still 30 hours.

Never said otherwise. But giving out very unspecific and rather subjective info isn't the best way to address the issue. I think I already admitted that, no need to keep beating that dead horse. The difference is the "ZOMG U LIED!!1" crap that will pop up everywhere if the game can be completed in less than 30-40 hours. That's not a matter of complaining based on personal impressions and dissatisfaction with the game, but on unfulfilled expectations that were raised by the dev team to begin with. But whatever, it's not like I'll be the target when the mud starts flying.

Hitman - Blood Money Having a barcode tatooed in the back on your head never looked so killer. Okay, you can ban me now.

Actually... That's the censored version, btw.

Well... there's this very small possibility that you may survive, it wouldn't be the first time. No need to take risks. :D

Well... that incident also involved a fair load of vagueness, right? If so, read above. If not, oops.

Agreed. I'd much rather die of multiple large caliber gunshot wounds to the head and torso.

Criticism about the lack of devs posting here at the OE boards or lack of posting about NC's previous comments? "

Porn.

I've seen devs put out "unofficial" and "beta" patches out before, when publishers refused to fund any more patches. Those were basically direly needed bug fixes, though, not content patches. I doubt BIO would risk that when the game doesn't actually need more patches.

Good point. Can Atari actually prevent BIO from continuing support of the game, even if it's BIO that will assume the expenses from now on (this assuming it was Atari that funded all of that until now)?

They lifted the NDA before making a public announcement themselves? WTF? Anyway, this is a problem why? The premium module part I can't talk about, as I'm a cheap bastard that doesn't purchase those anyway, but does the game still need to be worked on in form of further patches? Honest questions, really. It's not like they are planning on shutting down the MP central server, right? Not a surprising move, anyway. From what I read, Atari isn't doing too hot, and they'll use any excuse they can find to cut their expenses. Not that NWN support and premium module release would really interfere with NWN2 sales but a great portion of the modding community is going to migrate to NWN2 either way. Not to mention the player base. "

My point exactly. But posting in such an unconvincing manner and about stuff that can't very well be verified even after the game goes out (but can easily be "proven" false) only gives more material to criticize, without actually providing any reliable information on the game.

I really don't feel like reading through an IRC log, so bear with my lazy ass. Who are these DLA people anyway?

Well, it certainly is nice of you to come by and explain your previous declarations, but I don't think it's such a good idea. You can't provide an accurate estimation of the length of the game given you're just the QA guy and stuff, which could be interpreted by some like Grom as a way of discrediting your previous comments and getting your ass covered. You are going to draw flak for this. And in the event the game is actually 30-40 hours long, you are going to draw flak from those that beat it in 20. Now, I'm not saying any of this is your fault, but surely you see how commenting on game length isn't the same as discussing max supported resolution for instance, where the game either meets the announced specifications or it doesn't. And folks around here are going to be taking your words as gospel... regardless of your intent. As much as I like having devs around to chat with, I'd much rather discuss specifics, not vague personal valorations that may or may not be realistic in the end, even more when those depend on playing styles. Heh. No wonder devs don't much post around these parts... Well Grom, BS is the lubricant in human relationships after all... we all give and take our fair share. :D

You can't have an Internet without unjustified and blind hate. It's just not possible.

Taks making a joke, and a funny one, to boot! The seventh sign of the Apocalypse!

I remember asking the devs to tweak the walk animation to a more realistic-looking speed while the game was still in development. As you can see, that was not a priority. When the game was released, I searched for a mod that did it, to no avail. Eventually, I tried to make the mod myself, editing some files that seemed to control character animations. For some reason, the game ignored the changes made to those files, which leads me to believe that it's hard-coded. I don't think such a mod exists. If you find it though, be sure to let me know.

Okay, okay, I got it. Have sex for the second time.

Have se... oh, snap!

Paul is in IW, at least in one of the endings. The extent of his involvement in the plot, thankfully I don't remember.

Yeah, discussions about the futility of life and how irrelevant is anything we do are always interesting. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go drown myself in booze.

Or at least that's the impression we've got. We can curb CO2 emissions alright, since those are our emissions. But freely claiming we can stop a cyclical event from happening as it's the case with global temperature changes, is akin to saying we can prevent tsunamis or earthquakes.

Well, yes and no. It's just that this is part of the dumb down trend that games seem to follow as they become more and more a part of the mainstream entertainment industry. Learning curves are in the process of disappearing, just like any other element that may cause inconvenience or that requires a bit of an effort. Also, by "hardcore" I didn't mean players that devote their life to gaming, that's not hardcore. That's stupid. I was referring more to the kind of player that posts in dev boards. Such as GTA, in which if you die, you just respawn at the nearest hospital?

You said it! Nobody can blame me this time. "