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of course we influence it, but the question is how much .. I hate the fact that goverments use this theory to instill fear into the population and blows it out of proportion.. and alot of evidence contradicts the world famous "greenhouse theory"! It has become such a pop-icon of science and everyone who agrees are automatically considered intelligent and "in"! People are just taking these kind of things as facts without actually taking the time to research it through..

He's a Christian and wants Christianity to remain what it is, and not some fancy pop-religion who needs to modernize .. I strongly disagree with him, and I don't like anything he stands for, but with the borrowed eyes of a religious person he's a good choice!

I AM THE GRIETEST! .. and now I will leave for no apperant raison!

At milliway! the restaurant where you never run out of time!

I wish you the best of luck with that then! ^_^ but I still don't believe that you will ever be able to truely measure such things, since your "religion" is rooted in substance .. but I would love to be proved wrong!

In science, things without substance, like morals, religion, art are unverifiable and in some cases labeled as not existing .. how can you meaure culture or faith? how can you describe it when using science? you can't .. you have to resort to some kind of psychology .. that's inadequate to me, it's not good enough .. so I needed to expand my view of reality and perception .. something which only focus on the subject/object leaves out important things!

yes more like a healthy skepticism .. like I said two posts ago "my main grief with regular sience is that it sets object as the ultimate truth .. which in my mind cancels out alot of human ideas .."

I must admit I took a more extreme stance to provoke a discussion .. but that's all part of the fun .. But it's not futile to communicate, since I want to improve myself and learn, and the only way to do that is interact with your surroundings .. since I the best way to learn about myself is reflection upon my own reflection .. as I stated above, that's touching slighty on Satre's "We apply meaning to the world" .. So no it's not a world view of futility and despair! Am giving you a small sense of purpose by allowing you to express yourself and vice versa ..

Not really: bellum means war <{POST_SNAPBACK}> really? hmm .. thought it was Bella .. well you learn something every day! which was kinda the reason I made this thread!

damn .. well reality is subjective, and I choose to believe in my own! :D

I really hate that I don't have so much time now .. which means I make mistakes in my arguments! grr.. and I have been a little extreme in my opinions to try and explain them, which have caused some inconsistensies! So I will try to explain myself better this time .. I hope it works! ^_^ I believe in a modified Emperical view .. (quoting Robert Pirsig here) since it claims that all legitimate human knowledge arises from senses or by thinking what the senses provide. But most empiricsts deny the validity of any knowledge gained through imaginiation, authority, tradition or purely theoretical reasoning! and things like morality, religion and metaphysics are unverifiable. Because of the assumption that all these things are not objects and anything which can't be classified as an object or a subject isn't real .. but I believe these things are verifiable.. I still believe experiance is the starting point of all reality! But if we view quality or excellence as the ultimate reality then subjective thruths are possible, which means we must strive for, what we believe, is the highest excellence .. my main grief with regular sience is that it sets object as the ultimate truth .. which in my mind cancels out alot of human ideas .. (I hope this was adequate and not as inconsistent with everything else I've written, I've been working too long hours all week, so my time is short and my brain is fried .. which causes mistakes, by hey we are all human here .. at least I hope! but who knows ..)

You won't just win with numbers in that game .. you can build the strongest infantry army, but if you lack spearmen you'll get totally beaten if the enemy has horses .. and while you can play like you describe you can also choose to play more strategic .. and more realistic! which I do ..

and Bella is war! tells you a little about Roman way of thinking!

I don't have much time for playing anymore so I usually pick games that I can play once or twice a week without having to think to much back .. so it's usually stragety games! right now I'm playing Rome Total War with the Realism mod .. a good game to play for and hour once in a while!

:D damn you really don't take anything serious do you?? ^_^

I think you misunderstand me .. My point the entire time has been, that what you see is just your minds interpretation .. hence it's not trustworthy in a scientific sense! but really useful when searching for your own thruth and own meaning .. since you can analyse yourself by analysing your perception of reality! and my romantic view, I discovered, is very close to Robert M. Pirsig's concept of "Quality"! which he elaborates on in his books "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" and "Lila" .. which would take an extremely long explanation .. but in an essence, which is really not doing justice to the idea, it's saying that the world is composed of nothing but moral values!

digged up my Manu Chao - Clandestino from my cd pile .. great stuff .. especially for chillin'!

that should be good for all those Bao-dur lovers (and those who want that literally) out there .. ^_^ "only fair General .. I do owe you more than one!" haha

Well it *is* your peice of art! but I'm trying to make a Zen Buddhist sig now .. but I really stink! hehe ..but pratice never hurts (in this regard)! So wether draakh_kimera can use your Sig or not depends on my words, then I say let him!

and more importantly .. what's up with your Hasselhof fetich??

hehe .. nah it's just the cardinal! otherwise it's perfect, I just can't bend my mind around what I would replace him with, so I'm strongly considering about trusting in your initial artistic instincts! and since you have made it I feel kinda cheesy wanting to change it, I mean it is your art!

we've probably aint seen nothing yet! this is the time of milking, and SW is more than ripe for a sucking-dry-harvest!

I can repeat my former post, and you can repeat yours, indefinitely .. The problem is; you view the world in the 'classical' logical sense, while I view it in the 'romantic' one .. thus you will apply your rules to my world view, which can't be done, and I will apply mine to yours, which is equally futile .. But because I'm as stubborn as you I won't back away from an argument, so even though this is going to sound like a broken record .. here goes.. 1. I'm not confusing anything, I perfectly understand your way of thinking, I just don't believe in it .. and, in my opinion, if a part of a system is wrong, it's a general indication that fallacy is about! and you believe in the perfection (not as a state of perfection, but as a road to) of the system, which I don't either.. Since to me human perception is faulty and science *is* (in my view) based on human perception .. so no matter what it *will* (in my view) contain mistakes .. 2. and you can point all you want it still doesn't prove anything to me .. since you are pointing at your own interpretation of you percieve to be a computer .. which is something completly different to me .. for all I know we might not even see or experiance the same thing! indeed it might not even be there and this is just a very (very) strange dream of mine where I'm arguing with different sides of my own personality .. (and in a sense I am .. but that's another story for another time) and I don't need to prove anything, because I can't .. you (or anyone else) will *never* be able to see what I see .. hence it's futile! and how would you prove the computer exist? .. ahh see now I'm applying my rules on yours, since in your mind the computer exists simply because it's there .. and I won't trust my perceptions .. this really is quite meaningless! but fun nonetheless ..

okay then I'll withdraw from this discussion as I'm only drawing it offtopic .. :">