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Enlighten me, I'm a little late to the discussion, what evidence supports that Bush believed what he said, and what does that matter if he is only capable of seeing or believing what supports his own agenda.

So, you were present at his top secret briefings. I can't believe the CIA would chose to blindly accept sources with an obvious motive for regime change, handmedowns from the so called 'Iraqi government in exile' some of them. I don't think the question of whether Sadam had an actual weapons capacity, or even if he was technically in violation of UN resolutions was that important to him, except to convince the UN once the decision had been made to try that avenue before going in unilaterally. Neither does it seem at all likely that what was presented was anything close to the whole picture of what was known at the time. In any case the weakness of the then known evidence has been exposed aplenty since then. Did he have plausible deniability, sure, the president always has plausible deniability.

I recently picked up Unreal tournament 3 and was a bit disappointed, the engine is sweet, the rest was, well, not as good as the name would suggest. I might check this out. The AVP games were all pretty decent, it's a bit sad that they contributed in some small way to the travesty that befell the Alien movie franchise, and to a lesser degree Predator ditto (predator 2 was hilarious) but one can't really blame a game.

The concept of deterrence is limited to the land of the living, what you are talking about is an extreme form of prevention.

There you and I agree, at least. The fact that the intelligence was wrong is plain unremarkable. The fact that the reconstruction contracts were parcelled out to cronies of the Bush administration who bungled the reconstruction and thereby made the insurgency ten times stronger... THAT's a problem. The difference between lying and misrepresenting the truth is semantics. No Bush didn't lie, he said 'go sell this side of the story' and that's exactly what his underlings did, to the point of deliberately skewing the larger picture. Also, the Bush administration does seem to have been confused as to the meaning of privatization, I'm pretty sure the point is to improve efficiency, not to hand the contracts to your republican buddies who knew the right names.

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Indeed, I think that to look on this account without feeling the compelling need to exact ferocious retribution is to deny one's own humanity. Some things need to be punished, not as a deterrent to others because they are probably beyond deterrent, but as proof that we are distinct from them. He may deserve death, but society should not be the ones to administer it. For our sake, not his. It has already been posited that it's a bad idea to sentence with emotion, and for my money that's an undeniable truth. In any case I'm sure we all agree he should not be let out, much less have his sentence reduced, and that question is much better place on which to focus attention, especially since there is no question of his guilt.

Have you tried a different mouse, that don't sound like a feature of windows. Maybe one of the buttons on the pad is borked.

The death penalty issue is not about individual cases, this much should be obvious. So, you've found a monster, so what.

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I agree it is disturbing that more people haven't called him out on it. If you let that sort of thing slide it only gets worse, like an infection.

It's a great piece, it just lacks the humor of the others. On the other hand Henry Fonda is one mean bastard.

Hehheh. Do they still do their annual Rudolph Hess march. But seriously, the reason they are so big in Sweden is probably because of lax legislation. The Germans on the other hand have exported part of the problem and encouraged the Nazis to form international ties.

A few dollars more. The spaghetti westerns with Eastwood, Van Cleef, and ensemble rocks the pants off anything else, even Jhon Ford. Morricone as usual takes it up the final notch. My all time favorites are probably Once upon a time, A Fistful of Dynamite, and the Good the Bad and the Ugly

Whats an LBGT

I think what we are really shocked at is that they still believe in god, while most of us will only go at Christmas mass at most to show the flag.

If Turkey got in the EU they would get 70. million people worth of representation in the EU parliament.

If they did get in they would tilt the power balance in the parliament because of proportional representation. 70. million people live in Turkey, more than in France.

Extremists Imams is one thing to worry about, and I don't know how you qualify that there are 'many' linked to terrorism, another is people demonstrating against freedom of religion. I would prefer having just the one thing to worry about, but that's just me.

You can't detect the prejudice in your statement at all, can you...

How could you possibly care if there are mosques or training centers for imams or whatnot. I haven't spent 5 minutes considering the existence of the church whose tower I can see from my window. Unless you are looking for some pretext and this isn't really about mosques at all that is.

They treat their ethnic minorities rather poorly. Police brutality is rampant despite it being a democracy, they still have the death penalty, only country in Europe. They definitely have a while to go yet.

You will notice, or perhaps not, that I use 'fool' more as an expletive than an accurate description of Bush's intelligence. His 'speech impediment' and general air certainly aren't evidence of anything in themselves, although the fact that he has used his dad's name and political machinery extensively perhaps suggests that he got to the final lap in the presidential race rather more easily than well, others.

I haven't seen W, but I'll agree any time just on general principle that Bush is a fool. Now I did see the one where Oliver Stone follows Fidel Castro around and interviews him, I can't even remember the name. Anyway after several days of dragging Stone around the country on the grand PR tour Castro eventually lets down his guard and talks about Batista, the CIA and the Bay of Pigs, and the Cuban missile crisis. I was surprised at how much anger he had for the Russians. Of course Stone wanted to know who shot Kennedy, as if Castro automatically must have the answer, and tried, and failed, to make that a pivotal moment.

Been youtubing again, remember this hick song from Brother where art thou, it's tyte.