Nick_i_am

It's a reference to the fact that she's married to Bill, and that he's pulling strings from the sidelines.

oh, yeah, my scedule means that I probably won't be able to play with you guys outside of weekends, we'll see.

So you're defining faith as belief in somthing that doesn't have any logical or scientific evidence to it? For example, while waiting for a bus, it's belief that it will arrive in 10 minutes, not faith, because the scedule says so. When reading about cloning, it's belief that cloning exists, not faith, because it's published in a scientific journal with evidence. When considering your own existance, it's belief that you exist, because you can see and touch and smell, not faith. But then, wouldn't it be faith that the bus still exists? You have no evidence of it having crashed. Or faith that cloning exists? You've no evidence that it's a hoax. Or faith that you're not just a brain in a jar? you've got no evidence that such a thing could even happen. Understand, i'm not talking about your stance on religion, i'm questioning your idea that, where somthing 'exists' there's no faith involved, even when it's completely out of your personal senses or control, at which point, faith and belief overlap.

No, you have faith that it's not.

I'm going to murder you.

Ha, that's awsome. But yeah, point still applies since you're not a master scientist in every feild known to man. Not to mention that you had to have faith that the machine was showing you what was actually there. It might not be conscious faith, but it's still faith.

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I assume you've seen DNA then. You're not beliving in somthing that exists, you're putting your faith in scientists who say it exists. Sure you can say a tree exists, but you're taking other peoples word for the idea of HOW it exists. This isn't me being a consipacy nut, claiming that the worlds scientists are pulling the wool over our eyes, it's just pointing out that scientific 'fact' is just as dependent on our belief in a scientist as religious belief is in that of a preist.

I'm probably in the 360 camp for it.

Sand was 'in the Navy' ehhhh? If you know what I mean. EDIT: freaking link isn't working, but it better not be Navy Feild.

Contact was a good film if only because it tried to explain the nature of belief in faith to people with purely scientific minds.

Halo3 coop can be good fun if approched from the right angle.

I was in kent for their last big one. The local papers were full of pictures of the destruction. Which was pretty much limited to a wobbly chimmny falling off a roof.

Guys, stop trying to burst his bubble, it's mean.

Breakfast choise of the extemists!

'Aye ain't been votin' for no goddamn mus-o-lim' is what Gabs is getting at.

I'll keep that in mind if I ever see either, cheers. XXXX is marketed in the UK specifically as being Australian which is pretty funny given the accounts in this thead.

'Jeepers Scooby, we better not go near that old Hades place, the villagers say there's a Ghost up there!' 'G-g-g-g-ghost?' 'Come on gang, lets investigate!' BLAM BLAM

haha, Irony bonus.

What? It's channel 4 you nitwit.

Erm, yeah, Gabs has been drinking Potions of Heroism, if you know what I mean. I mean, if you know what I mean.

Was he okay?

Did you get turned down again?

That wasn't directed at you by the way, it was directed at crabs.

Irrelivent.