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Sorry everyone, offended people are more important than this issue. Obsidian needs to use its resources to sanitize text before it can even start working on fixing this.

I'm so glad #killallmen got priority over these issues...

I'm so glad we used the dev time to change the memorial instead...

I want to say I hope Sawyer is enjoying his weekend, because it doesn't seem the devs who saw him enable threats against them are.

All you had to do was ignore the damn Nazi Obisidan!

Obsidian: This is the future you chose. You chose... poorly.

Feargus is/was drinking with one of the bioware doctors. Not on the clock and still a better use of company resouces than "fixing" this was.

Yes, Sawyer is reponsible for wasting the team's time (and by extension money) giving this non issue attention over actualy issues which still remain.

yup. you're a bible miner. figured. because you are not trained in any kind of diagnostics wrt to mental health care. sorry, just like reading WebMD doesn't make you a doctor, reading that book doesn't make you a doctor, either. your ignorance speaks literal volumes. you should quit while you're already 20 feet deep in a well of your own design. So saying that Christ makes EVERYTHING in levititcus null for modern christians is Bible mining? That's the point of the famed "kill and eat" scene among others. Are yous aying "Erika" isn't actually trans and is just faking it and I'm an idiot for thinking otherwise?

He's mentally ill because Gender Dysphoria is in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. you strike me as the kind of person who would quote mine Leviticus. you have NO idea what you're talking about. none. it's like if you said that a runny nose is a sign of infection by Ebola. For one Levititcus is entirely null thanks to the word of Christ and replaced by the laws he lays out. Two: How? I said someone is mentally il because they have a mental illness defined by the main guide on mental illness published by the leading Psychiatric group.

Are you instead arguing that gender dysphoria is not real?

He's mentally ill because Gender Dysphoria is in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

Especially because I've seen the Kill All men dude's picture. If you just showed that to someone there's no way they'd think he was female. Not even in a "can't pass" way, there's no sign he's even trying to look female. And there it is: the response to any criticism of transphobia immediately justifies such criticism. Disliking someone who is borderline insane is hardly what you'd call transphobia. I guess people are transphobes for disliking Hitler as well. No borderline. Unless Eric has been faking it, he claims to have a serious mental illness listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders

Could have saved us a lot of trouble just saying that you were a transphobe instead of dressing it up in that whole freedom of speech cloak. Throughout every single thread I never saw you condemn the repeated and serious use of kill all men. At best you merely deflected from it.

Especially because I've seen the Kill All men dude's picture. If you just showed that to someone there's no way they'd think he was female. Not even in a "can't pass" way, there's no sign he's even trying to look female.

I'm not going to be nice to a man who preeches Kill All Men.

Funny how you decide to leave right after you let slip that you know Eric enough to know his real name. Did you mention this when you spent the past several threads arguing for his position?

M8, come on. I HIGHLY doubt the developers working on the bugs were the ones handling this ****storm. Sawyer said he would "talk to our producers about it". At the very least Feargus had his time wasted with it because he wrote the PR line. They mentioned technical issues prevented them from just editing the limerick so they had to delete it and add a new one. SOMEONE at least semi-qualifed to look over code had to have his or her time taken up with this nonsense. Well, yes, someone qualified to look over code had to have his/her time taken up, but your post suggested that they just went "oh, there's people having crashes left and right? stats disappearing? **** that ****, there's a special snowflake on twitter complaining. We'll deal with bugs later". Seems to me they fixed the critical bugs while they "dealt" with the issue, so I'm fine with it (even though there was no issue to deal with really...). What ****ing bothers me is how they didn't even say anything in the patch notes regarding the changes. But whatever, no biggie. Are you saying the game has zero known issues currently?

Listen to yourself dude. #1 is essentially "they did not censor enough." Weren't you JUST throwing a fit there was censorship at all? #2 Sawyer gave attention to a different party entirely. Sawyer never directly responded to anything the genodice advocate said. No, it's "they didn't even bother to censor consistently". Eric and Cheong both advocate genocide and those are the only two people Sawyer @ed. Either way he listened to one. Eric's not even her deadname. You are fooling noone. Try KiA, they'd upvote your **** to the ceiling. "deadname" Really? Is it called that because of all the death he preeches? At this point you're creating a conlag, not jargon Actually... If you know his real name to know it isn't Eric YOU ARE AQUANITED WITH HIM! That explains EVERYTHING you've said the past half dozen threads.

Pro-Tip: CEOs of a company will do PR and word things in beneficial ways. If you think it's plausible to change this practice, I've got a bridge leading nowhere I'd like to sell you. If you're so naive to not be on your toes about any statements a CEO, marketing director or PR guy gives you, then you're gonna be disappointed and confused quite a lot. You can gladly go be mad at Feargus for his statement being unclear or a "half-truth" in some ways, but I think you'll find you take issue with every CEO ever. Feargus wasn't saying this to merely the general public, he said it to people that were responsible for the game being funded. There's also the fact that the POINT of Kickstarter is the AVOID needing to bull**** customers for the publishers sake.

M8, come on. I HIGHLY doubt the developers working on the bugs were the ones handling this ****storm. Sawyer said he would "talk to our producers about it". At the very least Feargus had his time wasted with it because he wrote the PR line. They mentioned technical issues prevented them from just editing the limerick so they had to delete it and add a new one. SOMEONE at least semi-qualifed to look over code had to have his or her time taken up with this nonsense.

Listen to yourself dude. #1 is essentially "they did not censor enough." Weren't you JUST throwing a fit there was censorship at all? #2 Sawyer gave attention to a different party entirely. Sawyer never directly responded to anything the genodice advocate said. No, it's "they didn't even bother to censor consistently". Eric and Cheong both advocate genocide and those are the only two people Sawyer @ed. Either way he listened to one.

One way or another, Obsidian has lost value with me. How could I ever defend them from their reputation as a buggy developer when, even if they were 100% truthful 1: They had super sloppy vetting process (I'd really like to see the guidelines it went by released publicly) 2: A genocide advocat on Twitter gets more attention than the many remaining critical bugs

I knew it was offensive. It was meant as a joke, you know...an offensive one. What fault is there in expressing myself with something controversial? Art that isn't offensive is very low grade art. If you aren't saying something controversial, you're not saying something interesting. Preventing offense means nothing but stagnation because nobody discusses anything.

(quote is at bottom because quoting is broken) No. No "but"s. He was dishonest with paying customers, potential customers and funders. Period. I never accused Firedorn of lying, only Obsidian. Obsidian's response in that letter was nothing but a **** you to the above and emboldenment to the kill all men crowd (as can be seen with how Eric bragged about it on Twitter and immediantly started thinking about how if everyone were so gullable he'd be throwing men in concetration camps already) and a waste of time that could have been spent doing literally anything else on the game (even manually opening a random part of the script and looking for typos would have been a better use)