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http://dangolding.tumblr.com/post/95985875943/the-end-of-gamers Guys here is a good article that is similar to the Leigh Alexander article on Gamasutra. But its less hysterical, less aggressive and more cogent IMO. You may have read it before but it articulates the whole " the gamer is dead " perspective and explains it in way that is more reasonable In summary " On the evidence of the last few weeks, what we are seeing is the end of gamers, and the viciousness that accompanies the death of an identity. Due to fundamental shifts in the videogame audience, and a move towards progressive attitudes within more traditional areas of videogame culture, the gamer identity has been broken. It has nowhere to call home, and so it reaches out inarticulately at invented problems, such as bias and corruption, which are partly just ways of expressing confusion as to why things the traditional gamer does not understand are successful (that such confusion results in abject heartlessness is an indictment on the character of the male-focussed gamer culture to begin with)" Do you guys think this is a fair perspective ? The only criticism from my side is at the end he says " EDIT: This post does not do nearly enough to acknowledge that women have been playing, making, and thinking about games throughout game history. The stats that I quote above about adult women outnumbering teenage men could fairly be read as an erasure of this fact and for this I apologise unequivocally. Women are here now and they have always been here, but they are often deliberately made invisible for cultural, financial, and bigoted reasons. It is everyone’s job—perhaps mine especially given this post—to reverse this in history, and the present. Perhaps the most important lesson to be taken from all of this is that women’s voices are more important than ever: something that this post does disappointingly little to address" I think this is unnecessarily obsequious, he is pandering to any women who is reading this article. He made his point in a good way without having to add this last paragraph. I just think its overdone as he must have received some critique after making this blog

Did you see my post? they coordinated the 10 articles saying gamers are dead. And this is not new, this has been happening for years. When the first tropes vs women came out, idiots like me complained about it but we don't have a big voice, the media praised her (since now it turns out they are associated with her) and the gaming personalities either praised her or ingored her and remained silent. Doesn't it seem weird that some personalities that are very vocal (like totalbiscuit or angryjoe) never really talked about it, aside from maybe a small comment here or there? The ones that analyzed and critiqued her videos were people that had NOTHING to do with gaming, like Amazing Atheist (a guy that talks about atheism and other things) and Thunderf00t (a guy that does experiments and debunks creationists) sure those guys are gamers but they were nowhere near close to the "gaming scene" These people, that talk... more like demand "equality" "diversity" and "representation" in video games are nothing but a small club, a closed circle of 1st world priviliged white guys and girls that are all in bed with eachother and are completely corrupt, they work in journalism, in indie development and in PR and who knows how deep does this go. And they have to go, and hopefully will, because if what I know is true, these people have commited fraud and this might get legal. Boys, boys, boys... There is no gaming journalist conspiracy to control the direction around inclusivity in games. Its not real, its in your head. You guys must stop feeding each others ideas with these preposterous suggestions Firstly the idea of a conspiracy theory is that it needs to be done subtlety and surreptitiously in order to have maximum influence . If Elvis acknowledged he wasn't dead ...well it wouldn't be much a mystery would it and the "Elvis Lives" cult would die an early death. If there were 10 articles written the same day in order to influence us poor silly gamers this wouldn't be a very efficient way to get a message across secretly because just look at reaction from you guys? An effective conspiracy would have staggered the articles over a period of time, you don't kill people with a deluge of over information. So logically what does this tell us? All it tells us is that this is a talking point that many people want to support or at least read about. So now you have gaming journalists jumping on the band wagon and giving there opinion or pretending to really care about equality but its just being done to draw people to there websites, but this is no conspiracy theory....its simple self-preservation and a way to increase revenue. The only reason people like Totalbiscuit don't discuss it is because everything that needs to be said about the topic has been said in his view and he isn't prepared to comprise his journalistic integrity with some lame " hey guys I really care about equality " article. I respect this type of stance So where do we go from here ? People like me do care about equality and want to see certain changes in games but there is an inordinate amount of attention on this topic now from people who never cared about it in the past. Let the storm of media attention end and we can carry on discussing meaningful changes in games

Very poetic, I like it

You need to be more like me Ros, I never derail threads under any circumstances

Actually from what I have been seeing he doesn't want to conquer the whole of Ukraine but wants a corridor through Ukraine from Eastern Ukraine to the Crimea which Russia has already illegally annexed

And if you don't have all the content, get it from GOG for pretty cheap. Also in the GOG forums on the IWD forums there is list of the best Mods to use in a topic right in the beginning of the post list. I played IWD recently and I recommend the suggested list, its only about 4-5 Mods and most of them are bug fixes.

Volo that's a silly suggestion and you know it is

he did not need to work very hard to find, "bizarre, explicit and controversial comments." in fact, we bet it would be impossible to enter a da:i forum other than news and announcements and perhaps multiplayer, and find a single page w/o at least one thread containing, "bizarre, explicit and controversial comments." a comment from a bsn poster reacting to the video that is honest 'bout the degree o' bsn bizaro http://forum.bioware.com/topic/512557-dragon-age-inquisition-bsn-in-a-nutshell/?p=17218164 HA! Good Fun! Even if each page on BSN contains one thread of " bizarre, explicit and controversial comments" there are on average about 25 topics per page , that means 4 % of the topics are " bizarre, explicit and controversial comments" This is a small number of the total number of " normal " posts. I stand by what I say, you guys are exaggerating when you suggest that most of the comments on BSN are like the comments in the video. And then even in a topic like Iron Bull not every comment in that thread is going to be about people wanting to have sex with him which brings down the total number of " bizarre, explicit and controversial comments" even more

Yeah that was funny No, it's not. It just means that Bioware's forum consists of two groups of deviants, one who take it seriously and second who are way too creative in their trolling to be normal, either. No I don't see it like that at all, what the guy did is obviously trawl BSN and look for the most bizarre, explicit and controversial comments he could find. We know these exist on BSN but we also know there are thousands of normal posts about DA:I. So we can't generalize and say this video represents all the people on BSN, that's an unfair characterization of BSN. And I know you know this

http://www.polygon.com/2014/8/30/6084477/how-a-video-game-helped-save-my-sanity Here is a feel good story about a guy that beat the demons of alcoholism through gaming

Whats funny about it? Is it the fact that some of us have integrity? And no I didn't look at the pictures and have no intention of doing so

Yeah that was funny

I always like to read the menus of restaurants that people post, this place looks very cool Tell me Shady why is it that your wife and friends don't want to go to the Buckhorn Exchange restaurant? What is the reason you can't gather support for this type of gastronomic experience, the restaurant looks amazing. Imagine eating Buffalo and Elk http://buckhorn.com/suppermenu.php Yeah, nobody is really lining up to go try it. If they go they'll probably just get something normal like a steak and since there are better steaks to be had elsewhere... Also, I've had both buffalo and elk before and I'm not real big on either :/ I am mostly curious to try alligator or snake but not curious enough to go by myself Okay makes sense

So let me get this straight, you are telling us we must ignore the input of the qualified archaeologist, TMZuk, who actually works with excavations and believe you around the point that there were no significant female Viking fighters? And what do you do for a living again?

Good post And no I don't any offense at all. I expect people to be honest around this topic

I always like to read the menus of restaurants that people post, this place looks very cool Tell me Shady why is it that your wife and friends don't want to go to the Buckhorn Exchange restaurant? What is the reason you can't gather support for this type of gastronomic experience, the restaurant looks amazing. Imagine eating Buffalo and Elk http://buckhorn.com/suppermenu.php

Hi Hiro "waves", you have been quiet lately ? You haven't been commenting on the Romance thread, you should come and give us your opinion on all matters related to Romance in RPG?

Okay I see what you are saying, it will be used to highlight how unsuitable other consoles are

Don't be a hater Shady, take a look at some of these burgers http://m.cheeseandburger.com/#/America I eat my fair share of the more creative burger shaped heart attacks but sometimes you just want something simple I hear you, sometimes you just feel like a hamburger that is simple where the focus is on the patty and not 3-4 other ingredients that can end up neutralizing the taste of the patty

Unfavored in custody agreements, harsher sentences for crimes, more likely to be physically assaulted or robbed. Note that men are much more likely to be executed than women in the US. You would be very wrong. The idea that bigotry and discrimination only applies to race, sex, and sexual orientation is wrong, as is the assumption that there is no bigotry or discrimination against whites, heterosexuals, and males. You have discrimination based solely around education, economic situation, religion, and pretty much anything you could think of. Point is, discrimination and bigotry apply to a whole lot more than just three things, and trying to designate a privileged group with just those three factors will not result n a universally privileged group. Okay you make some good points. I just battle with this whole "white, heterosexual males " are really victims of the same types of systemic discrimination that gay people, black people or women have been subjected to through the years Yes there are types of discrimination we are faced with like you mentioned but its not in the same degree that other groups have suffered under?

Look at the thread title. If you only wanted to discuss the positive aspects of feminism, then perhaps you should have gone with something else, like "Positive Aspects of Feminism". Sure, but feminism will always be associated with all groups of feminists, even the insane ones. Furthermore, feminism is flawed in that it seeks to address gender equality by focusing only on the problems faced by one gender. Yes you are correct, we should be discussing the good and bad about feminism as the title indicates, my bad. So what in your opinion are the issues that men face in modern society. I have always believed that white, heterosexual males are the least discriminated group throughout the world. In fact I would argue we don't know really understand the definition of the words " bigotry " and " discrimination" because we generally aren't on the receiving end of these views

KP this is an unhelpful comment, no one is suggesting anything even remotely similar to what you are saying. Radical Feminists do, in fact a pillar of their ideology is that women should govern men. On-Topic because the Rad-Fems are part of the current state of feminism. But why would you focus on the negative or radical element of a particular movement? There is a reason we call them radical. I would imagine most people prefer to align with the more reasonable groups in an organisation?

I would be surprised if these offensive and stupid death scene clips would ever be seen as a positive marketing approach for any company? Can you imagine Microsoft " hey guys, play the new Xbox 1...you get to sodomize your opponents in there death throes "

I'm talking about the average. I really did not think I would have to say it. The strongest and fastest of women never were and never will be (unless we evolve somehow) as strong or as fast as the strongest and fastest of men. On average this will always show. No they are not. Equal food and equal work will produce a stronger male. This is a scientific fact unless you are going to tell me women in the past had the same amounts of testosterone as men. If what you say were true women and men could compete in physical sports without the division. But they can't. I can send you some sources, but they are in Danish. Please translate these sources to English and then share them with us, don't be lazy

Yes I'm seeing her this week after work for drinks. The Nerf ammo was very well received and appreciated. But its too early for predictions on how things will work out