BruceVC

I finished SR4 last night and its a very entertaining game, a solid 65/100 I really admire the way the Developers were able to design very unique side-quests and parts of the main quest. Like when you freed Johnny Gat from the computer, I was constantly surprised about the variation of challengers that were thrown at you . Also they were able to create a "believable " way for you have super powers in the simulation End of the day I still prefer the GTA type of living world design that is "realistic, in other words no jumping over buildings but SR4 is a very good game and well worth the money I spent

Shame I'm laughing at some of the bugs experienced, I'm not laughing at peoples frustration or the fact that there are bugs but rather how strange some of them are I see one guy is experiencing the gender bug where everyone is treating his male character as female and this is impacting his Romance arc. I can just imagine how annoying this must be having this alpha male designed character being hit on by every male member in your party where applicable

Yeah good point, I find the statements of radical feminists equally offensive I still am shocked by the whole " consensual sex is the same as rape " on that radical feminist blog It seems like radical feminist are more concerned with controlling women than liberating women from gender based oppression. Yeah, there motives confuse me I would like to meet a radical fem one day ( I don't know any) and genuinely find out what is the objective of the movement. I imagine like all these types of movements there are different interpretations of what radical feminism stands for?

Yeah good point, I find the statements of radical feminists equally offensive I still am shocked by the whole " consensual sex is the same as rape " on that radical feminist blog

Why? I can understand someone questioning gender equality and the various mediums that represent it and if they are effective But that link is just trash...what possible outcome does the writer think he is going to achieve by being so completely dismissive, its basically unashamed misogyny

A quick primer to redpill. I might need brain bleach now, thank you very much. Wow is this link for real? Or is it some kind of parody It contains some of the most uninformed and sexist comments I have ever read about gender equality....he can't be serious ?

You keep "claiming " you have no issue with gay people yet you constantly feel the need to bring up the fact that Gaider is gay and how this has influenced Bioware Then you use some strange logic that because Bioware is inclusive around there relationships somehow this is "intolerant " Your entire perspective is contradictory

Nah he has engaged a bit, not like you. At least I have seen him pop up with stuff with Wu or Alexander or Cheong. Was waiting for him to descend on this thread with a sermon, actually, once DAI went live. Always thought redpill stuff was just guys seeing women as machines to game to get expected payouts. I suppose such sociopathic thinking is effective these days, moral issues aside. Alan is a very formidable debating adversary but he also makes his points in very reasonable way He makes loads of sense and is very informed, people could learn a lot from his insights

Mmmm maybe because he has different tastes and likes a wide variety of games? Myself i grew up on the final fantasy/secret of mana/chrono trigger series and then tes series and for the longest time thought morrowind (hint-still do) one of the most amazing rpgs ever made and never even touched crpgs when i threw money at obsidian for their kickstarter. Hell the ones i tried i didnt even like but fonv impressed me so much thay i just threw money at them. just because Bruce loves a good romance story and loves bioware games doesnt mean he wouldnt enjoy a good obsidian game even if it didnt have romance in it. i seem to be on the opposite point of view with Bruce alot but cmon, no need to call out someone on tastes as theres no problem if the same person loves BG2, DA2, and Hello Kitty island( not saying he does but it wouldnt be a problem if he did). Different people, different tastes. Lets keep it civil we have been a good behavior so far for awhile lol no need to end it This is basically my exact response, good post I like a wide range of RPG and Romance doesn't even factor in to whether I buy a particular RPG. Its great if its there and enhances the party interaction but I don't buy games based on there Romance implementation

I can empathize with that type of mistake, I mean well but sometimes I change a recipe or do something different and it doesn't really compliment the overall taste

Nice link, looks like some excellent recipes

And until you define what you mean by "prominent GGer", this question remains unanswerable. Is Davis "women in our society have become the most decadent sluts since the fall of Rome" Aurini, a self-identified gamergater, co-creator of The Sarkeesian Effect, with a Patreon that managed to gather nearly 10k dollars of gamergater money, prominent enough? Is Milo "you get your **** out for a living, don't tell me how to do my job" Yiannopoulos, also self-identified gamergater prominent enough? I notice Longknife has been conveniently ignoring this point from you, hopefully he will respond now

TIME magazine did a poll for most loathed word, feminism won. Now the claim is it was a "small bias sample" and doesn't accurately represent the mentality of the people. I've no idea how large the sample was but I'd hardly consider TIME's readership to be naturally bias towards anti-feminism... http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/time-apologizes-including-feminist-poll-words-ban/ As usual you don't understand a situation, get your facts straight please before make these " great statements of outrage" Its was TIME membership who complained about the fact " feminism " was in the list. And TIME magazine agreed. So they removed it, its not to understand because that's what there members wanted

Pretty much. Malc that hurts my feelings...you can't think I'm a worse Troll than Oby? Think of all the meaningful conversations we have had where I have corrected you about something and you have acknowledged it ?

I was a little surprised by how upset Longknife/Fighter was. I didn't think you were totally serious. I'm upset by it because Bruce has this wonderful habit of not even replying to points he cannot counter while posting nothing but things that fit into his agenda or things to derail from serious discussion. I've got nothing against humor or even derailing comments when it's only to a certain extent. But seriously, flip back through the pages. You'll notice a clear pattern where some of the most effective arguments by a GGer are blissfully looked over as he pretends they do not exist. Meanwhile, in the very first thread of this series, I proposed a challenge to name one prominent GG supporter who has made a single sexist or racist comment or condoned harassment. My point was that the only people the SJWs and anti-GG point to are the anonymous trolls with names like "umadsosad" who post things like "I'll fookn cut j00 n***er lel" and try to claim that's the face of an entire movement. Such tactics could be used against literally -ANY- group. And here we are and he's "joking" about how sexist and racist GG is while still failing to cite a SINGLE example of sexism or racism even after I and others have asked him to do so. No, you do not have the right to make such jokes when you cannot even participate in a real debate or respond to requests to cite your stances. Why did that comment piss me off? Because it beautifully sums up how delusional and blind Bruce is. I'm not blind to the fact it was a joke, but what's disturbing to me is that he apparently thinks ANYONE would find it funny. It's the most obvious thing in the world that he's in the overwhelming minority opinion in this thread, and yet he spouts that "joke" as if he were in some sort of supermajority and everyone will love it. That to me says that regardless how much we talk to him or tell him this or that, he won't listen or acknowledge reality. Talking to him is like talking to a brick wall, and even when people make good points, he blatantly ignores them and continues to go about with an attitude that he is right and we are wrong and obviously everyone in GG is sexist and racist. Yes, I would surmise from that joke that he still believe GamerGate to be a sexist/racist/all the bad word in the world movement, and that pisses me off, because for him to think that now is nothing short of delusional. You wanna challenge my point? Ask him yourself, right now, if he thinks people in GG are sexist and racist, then ask him to name prominent examples. As I said, no, I do NOT find such a joke ok when he cannot name examples because when one makes such a joke while completely lacking evidence to reinforce that joke and actually warrant it's existence, then that to me says "this individual is delusional as ****." Him telling that joke is essentially on par with a Republican going to a Democratic convention and telling a joke about how the scumbag democrats framed Richard Nixon: it's nothing short of delusional to think it'd be well-received and highlights just how in-denial he is to think it would be. To quote a comedian, "it's my firm belief, you absolutely have to know where you are in the time space continuum." I never thought I'd meet someone where I questioned if they did. I do think that there are elements within GG that are sexist and misogynist, so you are right about that. That's probably the only thing you are correct about in this post It also sounds like you are getting into the business of telling people when and where certain jokes are applicable, this doesn't like GG? That sounds more like what a SJW would say because we believe that certain jokes are not appropriate. So welcome to the club, you'll see its not so bad here I have to dismiss everything else you say as " anti-BruceVC propaganda" ...its bias and therefore we have to question its credibility

You are wrong, there is no "should". A poll is not a tool to get the result you want, it's to get a result that is. So a result that does not conform to what you think is "skewered" and has to be discarded? That people decide to vote like that IS the reality, you just don't want to accept it. No you wrong and I tie your spurious assertion back to the " EA was the worst American company " ever vote Worse than the big banks, the oil companies, the cigarette companies? Of course its not, its a frigging software company. How could it be worse than them, yet according to your logic " its must be the worst company ever because the poll said so ". There are factors that the poll doesn't consider so it can create an unreasonable and unrealistic result

I thought the point about the word " feminism " been taken out the poll was answered ? It was taken out because it would have skewered the result, if you had the word "ISIS " in the poll surly they should receive more negativity ? But people who are active on the Internet vote on emotion and somehow "feminism " becomes the worst word ever. But that doesn't reflect the reality....just people who can influence the poll I'm not sure what else I didn't answer?

I was a little surprised by how upset Longknife/Fighter was. I didn't think you were totally serious. Yes, they completely overreacted. People mustn't always assume the worst when people make comments, sometimes a bit of levity is important

That Aurini guy is the most disgusting ****heel I ever listened to on youtube ("we should be absolutely furious with the n***ers... not the blacks, but the f***ing n***ers"; "whites have been working for the past several hundred years to eliminate slavery throughout the globe - and even when we bought the black slaves, we treated them extremely well"; "women in our culture have become the most decadent sluts since the fall of Rome" etc. etc.). The other guy I'm also unfamiliar with. He sounds like someone who should align himself with GG, his perspective will fit in very well there Bruce how about you go **** yourself and again: get out of this thread until you're interested in productive debate? Seriously, the last page or two brought up rather good and relevant points, such as the counter to your "we can't have people thinking feminism is bad" already being a sailed ship if it was infamous enough to win TIME's poll, or how censoring those results is literally implying feminism is more important than truth, not to mention such a tactic is something not unheard of from totalitarian regimes. But do you respond to that? No, you make some horrendously off-color remark likening all of us who support GG with some guy who's blatantly and disgustingly bigoted, both towards other races and sexes. Your remark just now - as far as I'm concerned - is right up there with that article calling gamers fascists. You know why I'm always preaching about productive debate? Because if you get two sides both stating their cases while both are capable of admitting when they're wrong, then you can do fantastic work to figure out who's right and who's wrong, as well as figure out the best course of action. But I've never seen that from you. I've seen some sad little man who is too simple-minded to realize that yes, a woman claiming to be an oppressed victim is also capable of being a bully, a liar and a fight instigator. And yet when there's an entire page filled with counter-points to highlight this, what do you do? You look over them and just make an incredibly insulting remark, likening your debate opposition to racists and sexists. As I've said, kindly get the **** out, cause it's clear you have no interest in productive debate, nor do you have anything to offer any productive discussion. No, no I'll continue to post in this thread, I do sometimes enjoy the debate And I was just joking with my comment, hence the You GG people are very sensitive and defensive, it seems you can't take a joke

Best post of the week, good and accurate analysis of the reality of how companies really operate Of course they not immutable. Ask anyone who works for large corporations, like me, and they will tell you how processes and strategies seem to almost change on a 2-3 month basis That's the nature of business, you adopt and change or you become redundant

That Aurini guy is the most disgusting ****heel I ever listened to on youtube ("we should be absolutely furious with the n***ers... not the blacks, but the f***ing n***ers"; "whites have been working for the past several hundred years to eliminate slavery throughout the globe - and even when we bought the black slaves, we treated them extremely well"; "women in our culture have become the most decadent sluts since the fall of Rome" etc. etc.). The other guy I'm also unfamiliar with. He sounds like someone who should align himself with GG, his perspective will fit in very well there

Now where I have seen these sort of accusations before? They removed it from the poll? Cowards. I know, right? I'd call for freedom of speech and tell them to go F... themselves because I am not remoing any word. No its probably the right thing to do because it may create the wrong impression that feminism is a bad thing And these polls are really based on peoples emotional response, like saying EA was the worst company in the USA..even worse than cigarette companies, so the results don't always paint an accurate picture

How exactly is he pushing a gay agenda, its not like you are confronted by homosexuality all over the game. Its only in Romance and one or two lines of dialogue that allude to it Don't be afraid of gay people Volo, they are just like you and me. They aren't big monsters who are now going to eat you just because there is some attention paid to them in Bioware games

Funny enough I'm about to finish SR4, I am on the last mssion Yes its been very entertaining, I'll give a full review once I'm done

You are missing something fundamental about the strategic business direction that Bioware has now taken and I can understand why you would miss this because you don't seem to follow SJ issues Gaider isn't pushing a homosexual agenda , he is simply including certain minority groups in some gameplay components that previously they wouldn't have been able to identify with I believe Bioware was the first mainstream development company to offer Romance outside of the normal heterosexual type and it was a watershed moment, I truly salute Bioware for taking this risk. 10 years ago this type of implementation may have backfired on them. Its a brave new world of inclusivity but I will say there are definitely extremist elements in the SJ movement. But I distance myself from them