BruceVC

Volo always ends up playing the metaphorical inexplicable Devils Advocate on these matters ...with a touch of Nazism thrown in of course

Yes Volo...stop being an anarchist and hater of the law

I want to share something with you guys just so you can understand some of the SJ debates and challengers people like me who as white South Africans are committed to the multiracial economic transformation of the country have to grapple with . I'm not complaining but this article is from a relatively new group of young disillusioned black South Africans "intellectuals " who are determined to rediscover black consciousness in South Africa and have decided that white people are the reason for all the lack of achievement in black culture. This type of thing doesn't annoy or anger me ...its just misplaced. Try to read it if you are able http://vanguardmagazine.co.za/of-coconuts-land-and-friendships-a-generational-schism-in-madibas-rainbow/

Check your zipper before they put you under and then again when you come to, if you're able Something about anesthesia makes your fly open up... or maybe that's just me Dude that must the funniest thing you have ever said on these forums....it really cracked me up

Yes my first view was " just fire her " but its true I read she can't be fired as she was an elected official

Volo thats why you Canadians have majors who smoke crack and still stay on in office ....you guys have no sense of law and justice

I guess she should look for work that doesn't threaten her to eternal damnation? This lady is just a tool on a crusade. Don't you find it interesting that she doesn't have any issue with her own multiple marriages and pregnancy out of wedlock but she's afraid she'll burn in hell if her name is on another couples marriage certificate? C'mon. A-holes gonna a-hole. You right actually ..I forgot that part about her multiple marriages So in fact this changes my view of her as a true religious zealot....she is probably just homophobic which means I will bet she won't last 1 week in jail

Shame ..I hear what you saying but imagine how she sees this, she truly believes her mortal soul is in danger....but jail is probably worse

Volo there is a valid reason for jailing her from the judges perspective....I may not agree with it but it is valid. From this CNN link http://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/03/politics/kentucky-clerk-same-sex-marriage-kim-davis/index.html " During the hearing, one witness told the court that Davis had denied her a marriage license three times, and when Davis took the stand, the clerk explained that she could not issue the licenses because of her religious beliefs. American Civil liberties Union attorneys argued in a motion filed Monday that Davis "continues to collect compensation from the Commonwealth for duties she fails to perform." They said they didn't want her to be jailed as punishment, but rather, the attorneys asked the court to "impose financial penalties sufficiently serious and increasingly onerous" to make her comply with the high court's order. U.S. District Judge David Bunning, however, apparently felt she deserved jail time, but he also told Davis she could end her incarceration by complying with the Supreme Court order and telling her deputy clerks to do the same "

Also I read she has to stay in jail until she issues the licenses Now what will she do.....will she really be prepared to stay in jail indefinitely over her religious views....its seems a bit unfair ?

This is interesting but I feel jailing her is a bit harsh. She should have been fined or something similar This may sound inconsistent coming from a huge supporter of gay rights like me but I see her as someone who just doesn't have the mental reasoning to make the right decision. I suppose this does send a clear message

Those photos have made me even more hungry...what salami are those ?

Shady I always forget where you from originally...where is it again? I know you eat food that many people would consider " adventurous " but I find delicious

Yeah I prefer Pork but sometimes I go for Beef, we also get lamb ribs but they are too fatty for me

Beef ribs are very tasty, very little fat and very meaty Aren't they common where you live ?

Yeah...you see thats how I often get misunderstood. I would never denigrate your career...it would have been only about your company

Its weird but in the past I would have considered that a normal comment ...but I am right most people would see that as condescending?

http://rocomamas.com/menu/ Guys take a look at this menu and tell me what you would order ?

I really think my posting etiquette is getting better....I think I'm far less condescending , you know what I was going to ask you? " Malc from the stories you have told me about your work its not the place I would want to work " But I see how that might be seen as rude and dismissive

Would you say you work in a company that has a good sense of ethos and decorum that resonates with the staff?

Dentists are just going to charge you money, you dont need to go A good piece of string tied to a door handle is the best way to remove problematic teeth

Er...to be fair, if God exists (and prohibits something) then surely His authority would actually be more important and relevant than any state or federal authority? Whats your personal view on this matter? Do you think she has a right to defy Federal law due to religious convictions ? Sure, I am well aware she doesn't represent the majority of Christians as it has been well established that the majority of Americans are supportive of same sex marriage and all the legal rights this gives couples

Good grief. Do you feel guilty Baro...this is what happens when you guys promote transgenderphobia

I wonder how many other rules that are in the bible she strictly follows. Scant few probably. Indeed, for example the old Testament says anyone who works on the Sabbath needs to be put to death...does she advocate the death penalty for people who work on a Sunday? Probably not I guess " Therefore you are to observe the sabbath, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a sabbath of complete rest, holy to the LORD; whoever does any work on the sabbath day shall surely be put to death. "