BruceVC

Yes I know this is a extreme point by me, its not law its just my idea For you guys I respect the reality you live in, freedom of speech is important to your way of life and in most countries you would never send someone to jail for what they say But you must understand the reality of South Africa. We have several unique and real social and historical challengers that could undermine the entire transformation of the country ...I dont mean we will end up in the civil war but I mean an entire collapse of the economy Now racism is part of this and these types of comments are part of that, its been 22 years and many white people are part of the transformation but we have an economic reality where the majority of black South Africans are simply not part of it There is a real success story with the growing black middle class and many stories of transformation but I would say they represent maybe 35 % of the total number of black people. Now I am part of the white people in SA who has a good job but is also part of the transformation, most black people who are part of the economically disenfranchised 65 % have become stoical and accept this reality But they are susceptible to populist movements and there is always a slight risk that if a perception gets created that white people are still racist this could lead to extreme economic policies like Nationalization....which means the entire economy will collapse This has happened in certain African countries, so when white people demonstrate this type of appalling racism it really could impact the entire country For me I have no sympathy or inclination in educating any white person like this or being understanding , they simply need to be removed from society None of the many white people I know would ever use language like this so its rare but an example needs to be made

Yes, thats probably best in this type of game I started playing DA:I but stopped after 1 hour, I'll play it again but compared to W3 it just didnt grab me

South Africa is such a unique and interesting model of how a country is structured after something like Apartheid and we face unusual challengers We really are unique in a political and social sense, for example can you think of another country where A minority group( 10 % ) controlled the majority ( 90 % ) for 50 years Then the system ends and the majority becomes the government 22 years into the new political dispensation even thought the majority is in charge the minority has most of the economic opportunities and for the majority many of them still are unemployed or have low end jobs The minority consists of about 20 % who are actually relevant in the economy....the rest of the minority are not really relevant and spend time complaining and whining But despite this you still have the majority of black South Africans who dont blame the whites,arent angry and say things like " we must be nice to white people " Yet the fortunate situation that white people really find themselves in is due to Mandela as he said to all the black people who suffered for 50 years " we must be nice to white people" And yet you have stories like this from selfish and ungrateful whites http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/western-cape/an-open-letter-of-apology-from-matttheunissen-2017866 And he thinks an apology is enough....he is a disgrace, I wish we could jail this type of person

Actually I have never ever judged Trump on looks ....I dont judge politicians or celebrities on looks. You can prove me wrong but I doubt you will find any post like that from me I judge them on there actions and opinions .... Also Trump will obviously never say " I'm sexist " and he probably thinks he isn't. The type of sexism Im talking about is not your normal " women shouldnt be allowed to vote "...its more subtle and is more about his general reactions

Yes this was my experience, he only hit on me once and I said " no but don't take it personally ...I still need your magic " It really wasn't a big deal Volo have you ever used the adult Romance mod and Romanced Iron Bull?

I think it's more of the latter than the former. Michelle Malkin is way better looking and does not have Coulter's profile because she is less inflammatory while still being just as conservative. Okay, she has always irritated me and I haven't noticed her looks Yet I did think Megyn Kelly is hot and intelligent ...am I a hypocrite

Volo do you think Coulter makes sense? Coulter has never made sense, but that isn't because of her looks. imo nobody asked my opinion but you get it any way I always value your opinion I dont know why we are debating her looks....once again women get judged on something irrelevant I said she is irritating and uninformed about what Trump can deliver on ...her looks are not part of the equation ?

Thanks for sharing and taking the time to explain I dont agree with all of what you say but I respect your opinion

Volo do you think Coulter makes sense?

That's it, i've officially gotten old. Back in the Bush years the mere mention of Ann Coulter made me either cringe or laugh dismissally. Now i am finding myself mostly agreeing with her. Meshugger I know we differ on many things which is great as we can always debate something but why do you think Coulter makes sense ....can you name just one thing she said in either video you agree with ?

I'm not following? Ryan is a Republican The order of succession: President --> Vice President --> Speaker of the House ... So if say President Clinton got impeached and thrown out of office, then VP Sanders becomes POTUS. But then, what if he gets a heart attack as soon Clinton is removed from office --and before he could officially name a VP? Boom. President Paul Ryan. Never considered that...but his health is good and how old was Mccain ?

I'm not following? Ryan is a Republican

Not happening. Nor should it. Sanders would be more effective in the Senate as that crazy gadfly Uncle from Vermont calling out whatever needs to be said, as opposed as a tamed mouthpiece taking orders from the administration. That and well...the Dems need a more...youthful up and comer to develop the benchfor 2020 and beyond. But I'm wondering if Sanders cannot be the nominee the threat of Trump becoming president will create this Clinton\Sanders alliance Sanders to me seems to be the most sincere candidate, he really seems to believe what he says...and the thought of Trump becoming president would be anathema to someone like him? My not so hot take: Hillary Clinton won the 2016 November General Election when Donald Trump and Ted Cruz became the leading GOP candidates. You know I have always maintained that but I really prefer taking no chances and Sanders should guarantee a Clinton victory

I watched the whole thing.,...very interesting, I didnt agree with most of what the guests said though Ann Coulter generally annoys me and once again she didnt disappoint....her support and justification for the Trump Wall and the deporting of 11 million people made me realize these two terrible Trump commitments some people actually believe he can implement Savage just seemed to generalize too much...he basically said all of Trump supporters are ignorant bigots ..I think thats unfair and unhelpful?

Not happening. Nor should it. Sanders would be more effective in the Senate as that crazy gadfly Uncle from Vermont calling out whatever needs to be said, as opposed as a tamed mouthpiece taking orders from the administration. That and well...the Dems need a more...youthful up and comer to develop the benchfor 2020 and beyond. But I'm wondering if Sanders cannot be the nominee the threat of Trump becoming president will create this Clinton\Sanders alliance Sanders to me seems to be the most sincere candidate, he really seems to believe what he says...and the thought of Trump becoming president would be anathema to someone like him?

Okay well if I missed your point please clarify?

Do you mind sharing why you dont want him to be VP? I am interested in how Sanders supporters will see this?

No it makes perfect sense, Clinton and Sanders share many similar views Also Volo are you aware how many people really....really dont want Trump to win. Hilary would have beaten him by herself I'm sure but if Sanders joins her then a Clinton victory is even more assured Remember we want a Democratic victory

Volo many people get frustrated when you respond like this but just to let you know it doesnt bother me in the slightest I have no expectation when you and I debate so if you want to avoid engaging on a topic thats fine, we can debate later What really annoys me is when people call me a troll and criticize me but refuse to debate me or ignore me ...and I have always been annoyed by that and I am quite open about that but our debates arent like that as far as I am aware ?

http://patriotupdate.com/sanders-clinton-ticket-possibility/ Guys this will the best possible outcome for me and the Democrats ....Sanders joins the Hilary ticket

That's downright revolting. I have no words. Guys what is the issue with this link...if any? http://ambividete.com/2015/05/04/equality-under-the-law-are-women-offenders-treated-more-leniently-than-men/

Yes we have to work with all those laws...all of them But I did say this earlier in most cases this would be a offense that would cause a person to be dismissed And its not even because of the legal steps someone like SEC may take because when corporations fail these audits its normally a fine they get All the companies in Wall Street for example have very strict policies to ensure all emails are stored for internal or external governance reasons ....its protects them. The eDiscovery functionality is used mostly for internal company reasons So if someone like a CFO did what you suggested it would mean a serious break in the email chain-of-custody ..it would be unheard and almost impossible to do So yes this is serious but I cant make assumptions about what it means within the US department she works at Now the deletion of data does concern me so I just researched this, in the CNN article her lawyer said " But in his letter, Kendall said the federal law governing record retention requires that each federal employee individually decide what emails must be preserved. "The manner in which Secretary Clinton assisted the State Department in fulfilling its responsibilities under the act is consistent with the obligations of every federal employee," Kendall wrote " Some companies do have a similar policy because there is already an automated system in the back end capturing all email sent and received ..so its irrelevant what users do but I have to say I'm surprised legally Federal employees have this ability to decide what should be preserved ?

A pity, I thought you wanted to really discuss this

OK, what legitimate reason could she have for using a private server to conduct the business of the US State Dept, circumventing the oversight responsibilities of the Congress? Okay hear me out I dont know if I have told you but what I do for a living is I sell and consult around software that has several uses but primarily its used for eDiscovery and its used mostly in the financial sector. Since Enron all the companies in the USA in the financial sector and many others globally are legally required to be able to produce email and other types of data if there is an inquiry through the likes of the SEC So I do this for a living and I went back and reread Leferds post to get a better understanding of this whole event https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/how-clintons-email-scandal-took-root/2016/03/27/ee301168-e162-11e5-846c-10191d1fc4ec_story.html There are in fact several things very wrong with this whole event and initially I didnt want to say anything as I didnt want to undermine or seem to criticize Hilary but then I thought I must be consistent and honest about something that I can see is a problem...what went on here would have failed any security test in the private sector . So a couple of points Its a major oversight that no one that she was emailing for years raised issues about why or how she was using a private email address because I would assume with all the hundreds of emails she sent surely someone from NSA or FBI shoukd have asked questions? Other people in the US government use private email but they also use there work address Hilary seemed to slip through the cracks You can use encryption without a certificate on a Blackberry so why didnt anyone just implement it Her deleting of emails shouldnt be an issue unless she was sending data to people outside the government ..I doubt this? Any email sent to anyone in the US government I assume would be captured by the same software departments like DOD use In summary I can completely understand Hilary not understanding the technology but its still a major issue her staff didn't address the security gaps....this would be an immediate dismissal offense in every customer I know Yes they should have. That does not absolve her responsibility If this is widespread than it MUST be stopped. I certain you agree a government of a free country cannot be permitted to operate in secret. Not from itself at least. Once again that does not absolve her responsibility for her bad acts. Even assuming her motivations were innocent. I'll say it again, the e-mails and correspondence of the US State Department are the property of the US Government. It DOES NOT MATTER if her Blackberry was secure, if it was not using the State Departments server she was in the wrong. It absolutely matters that she deleted them. How does that look? She is doing something wrong and when she is instructed to give the data to the FBI & DOJ she DELETES it? What are we supposed to read into that? That there was something in there she didn't want them to see? Something that incriminates her or someone else? Had she turned the whole thing over then I'd buy it was all just a mistake. Don't let it happen again and everyone moves on. But rather than do that she attempts to hinder the investigation? She is not stupid and it was not an accident. So that means a cover up, which means a conspiracy. What was in those messages she is so afraid of? So we are back to where we started. she is either completely evil, or completely incompetent. Neither is a desirable quality in a President. I'm agreeing this whole development is concerning...and by the way I'm saying her Blackberry wasn't secure until 2009 But it is more a failure of the security people at the Whitehouse...or she somehow was able to bypass protocol For example at all my customers, and I work at some global firms, its mandatory to have all security procedures implemented...you dont have a choice and it makes no difference if you the CEO In summary I dont want to judge this whole event by the standards we are suppose to adhere in the private sector ...I find it troubling that this event happened somehow so I would have to see the actual White house security whitepaper to understand more

Volo I am going to continue to assume you aren't a troll and treat you with the same respect I like to treated with If you want to have this debate then just list some SJW games ? Its not hard if you being serious