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Alls I'm saying is that you treat people differently based on their gender. For shame BVC, for shame. The only way to right this wrong and rebalance the universe is for you to to go out this weekend and blow a wad of cash on some strippers. Sorry it had to come to this. Well gfted1 lets be honest....can you give me what a stripper can give me....if you can I'll be super nice to you, trust me I have a sales role and can be very obsequious when required

No need for an essay when a clause will do. Succinct, to the point and gets the important take home message across as quickly and easily as possible. Good luck convincing him of that. At least it wasn't overly whiney though. Indeed, hence why I completely stopped trying long ago. It's futile. Anyway, here's a funny Hillary picture. I think this one isn't even doctored. Did you also mention to LK about his long posts?

But Malc you know more about the Internet and general posting etiquette than me .....do you think most people even read his posts? I dont ..and I'm sure he thinks people are reading what he writes?

No need for an essay when a clause will do. Succinct, to the point and gets the important take home message across as quickly and easily as possible. Good luck convincing him of that. At least it wasn't overly whiney though. Malc please can someone like you also explain to LK he doesnt need to make such long posts.....its like I ask him but no one else mentions it and I'm thinking " surly I cant be only one thinking ......no dude...brevity is sometimes best " He will ignore what I say because he assumes I'm trolling him

Your sexism disgusts me. Why because I dont like to be crude or rude if a women thinks its inappropriate? Men dont care about that .....well on this forum I have never had anyone who has been concerned how I feel?

GD please understand the whole world who understands gun control and in many cases has worst crime than the USA thinks the USA needs more gun control.....its really strange for outsiders People on these talk shows say things like " why do the Americans need so many guns " ....I explain to them one of the reasons is " many Americans really think the day may come when the Federal government will come for them and they want to be properly protected "

Chilloutman should we start chatting again? I miss our chats but please try not to be rude and call me stupid

Oby can I ask you something...are you a women? If you were I would feel quite bad about how I spoke to you in the past because I would never be rude if you were women? Are you guys finally getting together? Well is oby is really a Russian women I would like to at least be friends ?

No need for an essay when a clause will do. Succinct, to the point and gets the important take home message across as quickly and easily as possible. I'm stubborn. I like to imagine that if, someday, someone has a bit of inner reflection during a difficult time, realizes there's a problem and then starts reflecting on things people have said to them in the past to try and find an answer as to what the issue may be, I want to provide that person with as much explanation as possible. Naive as ****, I know, but meh, I'd rather waste my breathe than not try at all. LK please for the love of everything that is relevant please dont start thinking Zora is someone who can help you...I dont think I can handle your posts but fulled with Zora's anti-western sentiment

Oby can I ask you something...are you a women? If you were I would feel quite bad about how I spoke to you in the past because I would never be rude if you were women?

No need for an essay when a clause will do. Succinct, to the point and gets the important take home message across as quickly and easily as possible. Zora please can you stop ignoring me ....you should be mature enough to be able to have a debate?

Excellent thanks Oby.,..I didnt know you wanted to chat to me? What thread did you post:?

There is nothing wrong with liking Romance, its a personal choice ...dont let anyone define your RPG journey Tens of thousands of people on BSN like Romance so we not alone. Yes its not popular on these forums but why should that change our views? Now I like big breasted women but there must a personal connection with the character in the game, like Isabela in DA2, or I wont follow the Romance arc Yes and I expect same sex options... its important to cater for all fans and not just heterosexual males

Sorry it wasnt clear what you suggesting, thats why I asked whats your ideal Romance implementation because I have the feeling you are going to say " I dont like Romance " I know you are experienced in gaming and past history on this topic normally reveals the vast number of old school gamers dont like Romance Extensive dedication of writing resources, well integrated into the setting / plot / characterisation, makes sense for the romance to bloom in that situation, isn't just a 'push couple buttons and have super shallow beautiful women with far too big breasts croon over you like both of you left your brains behind', and isn't just 'solve these 3 dialogue puzzles to get SEXXXX'? None of the stupid "pick the obviously right option between calling her an idiot and saying I care about you long time"? None of the offensively stupid "give gifts, get sex" (Dragon Age: Origins)? None of the hilariously bad sex scenes (Mass Effects, Dragon Ages, etc)? You'd think that's just common sense, but somehow it's not. I'll give you an example that's not so black and white: Final Fantasy VIII / IX / X. I'm not particularly thrilled about the romances in those titles. I find, for example, the male in VIII and X supremely annoying, and the female in IX and X kind of dull. Yet the fact that I am more or less forced to play one half of this romantic relationship throughout the entire game does not really annoy me, because it is clear that the romance is central to who these characters are and how they are changing, that is, the story and themes of the game as a whole. Their relationship proceeds in many small encounters with many different kinds of interactions, instead of "hi i like your hair" "oh um um *blush*" "sex time!". So even when I find the love interest character unattractive, and the romance is unavoidable and takes hours and hours, it is actually easier to appreciate the romance as part of the story, or even to look past it and enjoy the rest of the story. This is easier for me because I don't really enter into the idea that I am the PC. I'm playing to enjoy a story, and variously to empathise with the predicament of different characters. So it would be just fine, as a straight male, to play a character who is written all the way, for example, as a bisexual, a lesbian, whatever, and to experience different aspects of romantic struggles that character faces. What is not fine is the typical fare of putrid, patronising walking boobs lifted straight out of bad porn crooning over the player and asking me to fantasise - sexually and/or romantically - about my equivalent of topless prince come hither on a majestic horse. So, the point is, as I already said in very clear terms: just like Pillars should have not done a stronghold when it could not dedicate resources to do it properly, games should not do romances unless they can really do an extensive and well written one. Thanks for responding in such detail, this post was very interesting You proved me completely wrong as I really thought you were going to say " Romance is stupid " ....I made an assumption about what you were alluding to, my bad You have some real exposure to Romance concepts

Quote me. Go find the quote that suggests this. You're being blatantly dishonest. I said you look ****ing ridiculous trying to tell someone who actually knows people who once worked for the Clinton Administration that he's misinformed about the Clintons while you simultaneously imply that you, a person who isn't even from the USA, knows better. The discussion was never "who will win," because the very post I made preceding my post addressing you implies the exact opposite: I stated I hope the FBI nails her so we don't have to deal with her, again implying she's likely to win on the Democratic side. Likewise, once again you prove incapable of making actual tangible arguments. You continue to only point at others while you can't defend your own stances worth a damn. I asked you to state why on earth you choose to support Hilary, and here you are once again changing the subject. For someone who claims to be so informed, you offer very little. I would think that anyone heavily knowledgeable about politics would want to educate as many people as possible so they vote the "correct" way, but you seem to act as though your reasons for supporting her are some really big secret that dare not be leaked. Perhaps I was mistaken. Perhaps you support her not because you're oblivious to how frequently she's dishonest, but rather you yourself can relate to a dishonest person. LK I'm not angry with you ....just annoyed You have a problem where somehow you think being rude is fine and even though sometimes I am condescending have I ever been rude to you? Yes you clearly implied as someone outside the USA I am uninformed ...you said " Surely a random asswipe in South Africa is far more educated in these matters than " End of the day you can make the exact same points without the personal attacks? And the sad part is clearly no one you respect has ever said to you " dude ...tone down the insults " Yes, I am very rude to people who are a blatant dead weight in a debate, let alone a debate that's regarding the future of a nation and you seem to treat it more as "I need to win this argument on the internet" rather than "this is actually important." Yknow why I'm rude? Because you deserve it. A debate should be a chance for people to discuss issues back and forth and highlight which facts are true, which are false and where the candidates stand on a multitude of matters, with the goal being that ALL parties involved in a debate will walk away from it feeling more informed and better qualified to cast their vote. It's not about winning, it's not about picking a side and doing ANYTHING to prove that side superior even if the debate proves your initial side may be lacking, it's about progress. You never back up your stances. You never answer questions when challenged. You never add ANYTHING meaningful to ANY debate on this website. You sit on the sidelines...who am I kidding, you sit smack dab in the middle. The sidelines is where you SHOULD be, but you always act as though you have something meaningful to say. You sit in the center of every debate making worthless, empty passive aggressive comments while providing nothing of real weight or value. And then about once a month, someone calls you out on it, and rather than manning up and participating in a meaningful way, you continue making passive aggressive comments about the person as well as the topic without actually improving yourself. Here's my take on it: you are absolute dead weight to any discussion regarding US Politics. I mean I've spoken out before about how I'm not fond of Volourn's hysteria-driven "you're a nazi" responses he's prone to, but to his credit, I'm at times willing to overlook that and read his posts while filtering that out because sometimes he can actually back up his arguments and bring information to the table. But you? I honestly don't think anyone would miss you if you were somehow barred from participating in these discussions, because what substance have you ever brought to the table...? We wouldn't be missing anything. I take debate seriously. It's a chance for progress and a chance to learn something. It should be a chance for people to come together and refine their opinions and their knowledge of the topic. The disrespect I show you...? It's akin to if you were assigned to be a fellow surgeon at an operating table when you clearly had absolutely zero medical knowledge. Of course I wouldn't respect that surgeon, of course I want them gone. They're a problem more than they are a valued asset. If that surgeon contributes in a meaningful way though, suddenly he's welcome. See how that works? How sometimes you need to be QUALIFIED to participate in something, otherwise people will tell you you're unwelcome? And granted I'm not even asking much here. It's not like I'm gonna say "your opinion about healthcare is wrong, gtfo you're unqualified." No, if I disagree with your opinion about healthcare, then at least by telling me your opinion I have a chance to counter it. You'd be an active member of the discussion. Yay! But that's just it: this is no hate vendetta, this is no malice or personal problem with you. This is all very simple: "Put up or shutup." You wanna prove me wrong? Back up a claim or stance of yours for once in your god damned life. Do that, and we're having a discussion. Don't do that, and damned right I'm gonna be discussing how worthless your opinions are and why I want you gone from the discussion. By all means you're as welcome to chat on these forums as anyone else and I'm not saying I'm trying to run you off from the community or something, but damn right you piss me off when you sit here with that entitled ****ing attitude that you have a right to sit here and PRETEND you have a lick of political knowledge like all the big boys, and how dare anyone call you out when they notice your knowledge is a facade. This discussion does not exist to make you feel smart or better about yourself, it exists so informed individuals who actually care about the matter can discuss various strengths and weaknesses they see in the main candidates. Kindly grow up, or if you truly wish to be a valuable contributer to such discussions, defend your damned candidate and defend your damned stances. Then and only then will you see that I suddenly start speaking to you with more respect; once you've earned it. You see once again this post is an example of misplaced rudeness You have a horribly incorrect view of me, I dont sit in the middle at all. I generally take one side and stand by it...for example I always support the Democrats I believe and support Western ideology I support gender equality, non-racism and the LGBT community I believe in the EU and what it stands for I am a huge supporter of Germany who was to redeem themselves after ww2 Anyway I can go on and on ....but the suggestion I sit in the middle is incongruous ? But yes of course I have made mistakes,like my support of anti-GG. That lead to unnecessary arguments But you seem to misunderstand what motivates me and why I frequent these forums. You say things like "people calliing me out " and " people wouldn't care if I left the forum " as if that matters to me, this is a forum....why do you think I would care who cares if I leave. Don’t get me wrong I really enjoy chatting to people but no one is my friend here in the sense my friends exist in RL. So I appreciate interacting with people but they are friendly forum people …not real friends And in closing this point you made about Volo highlights how confused your idea of “ normal and acceptable “ is . I like volo but if you didn’t know him and his etiquette you would think he was an insane person ….he has on several occasions insulted new people to the forum with his bizarre posting style I’ll wager not one person on this forum who knows volo will say he is consistent and always brings valid information to the table all the time….he calls Hurlshot a “ a sjw nazi “

"tone-policing ".....what does that mean?

Quote me. Go find the quote that suggests this. You're being blatantly dishonest. I said you look ****ing ridiculous trying to tell someone who actually knows people who once worked for the Clinton Administration that he's misinformed about the Clintons while you simultaneously imply that you, a person who isn't even from the USA, knows better. The discussion was never "who will win," because the very post I made preceding my post addressing you implies the exact opposite: I stated I hope the FBI nails her so we don't have to deal with her, again implying she's likely to win on the Democratic side. Likewise, once again you prove incapable of making actual tangible arguments. You continue to only point at others while you can't defend your own stances worth a damn. I asked you to state why on earth you choose to support Hilary, and here you are once again changing the subject. For someone who claims to be so informed, you offer very little. I would think that anyone heavily knowledgeable about politics would want to educate as many people as possible so they vote the "correct" way, but you seem to act as though your reasons for supporting her are some really big secret that dare not be leaked. Perhaps I was mistaken. Perhaps you support her not because you're oblivious to how frequently she's dishonest, but rather you yourself can relate to a dishonest person. LK I'm not angry with you ....just annoyed You have a problem where somehow you think being rude is fine and even though sometimes I am condescending have I ever been rude to you? Yes you clearly implied as someone outside the USA I am uninformed ...you said " Surely a random asswipe in South Africa is far more educated in these matters than " End of the day you can make the exact same points without the personal attacks? And the sad part is clearly no one you respect has ever said to you " dude ...tone down the insults "

I ? Also I didnt want to come across as implying I know more than our American friends about there own elections but as I said my view is not all my own but people who I would consider are political analysts except they never go on a TV and work for the private sector People are asking you to provide a reasonable argument on how Hillary is the most suitable candidate compared to the rest. It is beside the point on what connections you have or what conclusions they have drawn from whatever methods they use. They simply want to hear your own conclusion. Bringing in that people should trust media-shy people that you know and how they are using analytical tools unavailable to the major public, or hinting that the results are incomprehensible without the right knowledge is as stereotypical global-banker-establishment as you can come to a point of being almost hysterically funny. Hence the caricature of a jewish merchant. Maybe I'm not being clear, when you say " people " you mean LK who specifically wrote a wall of text after I asked him for bullet points ...the same LK who insulted me throughout his ramblings and now you think I am going to respond to what he asked ...dude thats hilarious But I did something better, I committed my view 7 months before the election. Its irrelevant if people believe me or not ...I'll explain after the election if you are interested

Sorry I cant remove the "Like " ....I feel connected to you now ...forever

Sorry it wasnt clear what you suggesting, thats why I asked whats your ideal Romance implementation because I have the feeling you are going to say " I dont like Romance " I know you are experienced in gaming and past history on this topic normally reveals the vast number of old school gamers dont like Romance

I ? Also I didnt want to come across as implying I know more than our American friends about there own elections but as I said my view is not all my own but people who I would consider are political analysts except they never go on a TV and work for the private sector

I wasn't sure if I should be honest but since it seems my opinion by itself is dismissed I decided to just share with everyone very early on my predictions ....that way if I the result is right we can maybe move beyond people like Vals and LN calling me stupid the whole time And trust me there are certain social trends that allow a degree of real predictability....the real dark horse and worry was the whole Sanders surge

Guys I'm use to Longknife making some of the most inaccurate and absurd personal attacks on me and typically I just ignore them but this morning he said something that really demonstrated his ignorance on a new level Basically he said " how can someone who doesn't live in the USA claim to know more about who will be the next president than someone who lives in the USA " So just to clarify why this is so irrelevant,he never asked what I do for a living or why I think Clinton will be the next president Several of my customers in the financial sector have offices or HQ in the USA and have a real vested interest in who gets elected ...so they use seriously informed think tanks to analyze trends Of course no prediction is 100 % but after NY a Clinton victory is very likely...some say guaranteed as long as Trump is the Republican candidate. So my views on the election are a combination of my research through the international media, political commentators and insight through my customers Here is my prediction, if I'm right which is likely I'll share some of the common mitigating factors with anyone interested Clinton will win the Democratic nomination and Sanders will get the majority of his supporters to support her as Trump has become the antitheses of liberals and many Democrats But the real defeat to Trump will come from the vast numbers of women in the US who Trump has patronized and insulted After the election the Demographic voting breakdown will show how most women have voted for Clinton I encourage everyone to make similar predictions ...it will be fun to see the results

benchmark for Gromnir is ps:t, but is not the romance story o' the protagonist that we thought were fantastic in that game. ravel's love for tno were distorted and hopeless and more genuine than any other crpg romance story we care to name. best crpg romance were ravel's love for tno. took most o' the game, were almost complete one-sided, had no sex scene, and concluded with mebbeth's wonderful post plane-hopping encounter. am not seeing how to do a decent tangential and optional side-quest romance. go through an entire romance story arc in a half dozen dialogue encounters? what a tragedy. romance ain't necessary for a good story, but if you are gonna include romance, you better make it central to the game story. game developers, understandable, wanna do multiple and optional romances in a crpg, 'cause choice is paramount. result: doom. "but let me assure you, this like any story worth telling... is all about a girl. that girl. the girl next door. mary jane watson." try and make a movie or game in which a romance with mary jane watson, gwen stacy and flash thompson is all possible 'til mid-point o' game (after which one is rushed into a predictable and puerile sex scene with said romance option) is not our notion o' good design or good romance. the problem for Gromnir regarding crpg romances is not that we hate romance. the problem is that we like romance. optional and tangential crpg romances is, by their very nature, flawed. fine. keep 'em optional so we need not endure such. you simple cannot give the requisite attention and depth to an optional and tangential side-quest romance to make it anything other than ridiculously rushed and immature. so either don't do 'em at all, or keep 'em optional so we need not suffer. nevertheless, the only way to do crpg romance any kinda justice, to have it worth exploring, is to make such romance integral and pivotal and essential. can't do half measure romance. solution: if you want decent crpg romance, the obvious way to include is to add such to games without making the game protagonist a romance protagonist. you can have a well-written romance in just 'bout any crpg just so long as the player is not part o' the romance. HA! Good Fun! Yes the whole PS:T Romance was interesting I agree but I cant imagine an RPG where Romance is the core objective? Romance is suppose to be about party interaction and as you said a component or side quets , I enjoy movies like When Harry met Sally but despite what some people maintain an RPG without a compelling narrative and places to explore and decent quests would be pointless for me I only end up Romancing one person per RPG because I imagine the reality of being in a party and actually dating that person and to be honest Romance dialogue is interesting but never inspirational ....but its a RPG, not a novel so my expectations are reasonable So then you may ask " but why do you like Romance "....its about the RP experience the same as I consider my choices when they have real consequences. I always play a " good guy " but I am interested in wealth So in Witcher 3 which I'm playing now I generally ask for money when people ask me to kill monsters But for me if I'm not part of the Romance that would be pointless?

Fair enough, I'm glad you reminded me because I was about to respond to LN and I wasn't sure how honest I should be ....and some of his comments really annoyed me @ LN I'll reiterate in the US political thread why Hilary will be the right choice for US president