BruceVC

Thats to be expected from the likes of Ben Gvir People play cards all the time and this is the classic anti-semitism card

Here is better summary of the rulings These are the provisional measures ordered by the court: 1. 15-2, Israel must take measures to prevent genocide 2. 15-2, Israel must ensure the military is complying with the prevention of genocide 3. 16-1, Israel must take all measures to prevent and punish incitement to genocide 4. 16-1, Israel must take measures to provision humanitarian aid to Gaza 5. 15-2, Israel must take measures to prevent destruction of evidence of genocide 6. 15-2, Israel must submit a report on it's actions toward these measures within 1 month

I didnt watch the ruling but I have read analysis , it seems very reasonable and fair https://www.nbcnews.com/news/live-blog/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-rcna135801 This is a summary " The International Court of Justice has ordered Israel to take all measures within its power to prevent acts of genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, a ruling that could have far-reaching consequences though the court has no power to enforce it. The United Nations' top court stopped short of ordering a cease-fire requested by South Africa while it hears the full case accusing Israel of genocide"

https://www.barrons.com/news/germany-uncovers-russian-disinformation-campaign-on-x-report-7254cfa6 Another story of Russian disinformation but this occured in Germany

Yes and I agree, things are generally much better now in the world if you look at numerous metrics like people living in absolute poverty, life expectancy or education levels So even though that's irrefutably true the positive side of that story tends to get lost because people tend to say things like "why do I care about life 100 years ago, I care about my salary now or the fact I cant own a house " or other similar things But I agree, the worlds a much better place than its ever been

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/china-presses-iran-rein-houthi-attacks-red-sea-sources-say-2024-01-26/ Now China is getting involved to end the terrorism and criminality we seeing in the Red Sea committed by the Houthis It was inevitable

Even though I disagree with your general cynicism about the rules based order and global politics I respect your consistency and the examples you listing Because you can make a compelling argument irrespective if its true or not around every example you have given But a serious question, the systems we have are flawed and imperfect. But whats the alternative to religious belief or even systems of Democracy. If you could wave a wand and immediately change anything in the world what would you change and the change must be sustainable and realistic? So the real point is "yes we have inconsistencies and failures in our modern age " but whats the alternative to something like the UN or religious conviction that helps most people cope with there problems in society?

Yes, thats an important distinction. I keep saying they not binding which is not true, they not enforceable And I make this same point on Codex which no one has corrected. But you right

Gorthfuscious if you ever worried about people deceiving you then ask me, you know you can trust me

But what about the moral and legal success of the ruling, so SA " winning " the ICJ case matters in that sense and how people will reflect on it In other words its not binding action because the ICJ cant enforce that but the ruling matters around sentiment and the evidence presented. I am literally basing my future views on that in this conflict in the same way I reflect on all ICJ and ICC cases As you know Im critical of the inconsistency of SA foreign policy outrage but Im not questioning the validity of this case, the ICJ needs to make a ruling and we should all accept that ruling

I agree with most of this, Netanyahu is done politically once the war is over so dragging on the war is his way of thinking he can avoid the inevitable political consequence of his failures to protect Israel But if the hostages are released this puts more pressure to end the war because its been over 3 months since the invasion started and Hamas is still fighting but if you could release all the hostages then it becomes much harder for Netanyahu to motivate the war continuing even if thinks its better for his political survival But if the hostages are not released that continues to be a legitimate reason to continue to fight because Netanyahu can claim " Hamas is holding hostages " we must fight for them And then of course Hamas has zero interest in whats best for the Palestinians, it truly boggles my mind that since 7 October anyone could argue things are better for the Palestinians. Things are worse for both Israel and the Palestinians in different ways but much worse for the Palestinians But a permanent ceasefire is needed and new leadership in Israel is required for serious discussions about a 2 state solution which I still maintain is the only real solution for sustainable peace for both Israel and the Palestinians

But there wont be ceasefire or any chance of a ceasefire if the hostages arent released Surely you must realize that? And saying something like " there must a ceasefire without this or Netanyahu must be jailed " is like thinking Putin is going to hand himself over to the ICC Its completely unrealistic, Im talking about practical and realistic solutions. Not emotional ones

I wouldnt call it a myth, I would say the outcomes of the rules based order cant always be enforced But the rules exist and they have to exist. And the entire belief in the rules based order matters to any conflict and how people reflect on it And the ICJ and ICC are examples of part of the rules based order, there are no other institutions to rule on international crimes without these institutions And I realize its easy and probably correct to say "large countries can do what they want " but the rules still matter Just take this case of Israel being taken to the ICJ, I dont know how its been reflected on in Oz but in SA there is lots of positive sentiment and support for the case and people saying things like " SA has finally given the world a conscience " and " this is about highlighting our common humanity " And I dont want to be negative and mention that the ICJ rulings arent binding, for example Russia ignored the ICJ to end the invasion of Ukraine So I do understand the cynicism because there is legitimate point you making about a lack of action in the case of the ICJ but as I mentioned it still matters to the people involved Imagine this, the UN is part of the rules based order and that includes all its humanitarian institutions. Think how immeasurably worse off the third world and impoverished countries would be without it Almost every single critical humanitarian mission in Africa or the ME is funded and implemented by the UN

Fair enough, I have heard that sentiment expressed before. So whats your suggestion, the war should continue and no ceasefire ? Because Netanyahu has a legitimate argument to say " we wont stop the invasion until the hostages are released " but if the hostages are released it creates even more domestic and international pressure on him to end the invasion of Gaza and pressure is real for a permanent ceasefire So in other words isnt it better to release the hostages for the Palestinians than to not release the hostages? Its not better for Hamas but Im sure we mostly concerned about the Palestinians and not a terrorist organization like Hamas?

Do you support the rulings of institutions like the ICJ and ICC as legitimate? I do because they the qualified and authoritative international bodies that rules on matters like war crimes and genocide and I trust there understanding of these things because Im not a lawyer or remotely qualified to decide when something is a valid legal point based on the presented evidence So what Im asking is lets say they rule that Israel is not committing genocide, not this ruling tomorrow, will you accept it as a legitimate outcome?

But its a relief you dont support the rules based order, imagine how outraged you would be if you did believe in it

This is also the expected outcome when you only have state controlled media in a country, they can peddle any garbage the state wants and viewers dont exactly have alternatives But to answer your question, ii will be the same people who believe everything that the Russian state currently peddles through the media. 45-60% of population if I had to guess based on the Daniil Orien videos and how people respond to certain questions

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/22/israel-hamas-gaza-ceasefire-hostages There is a possibility there could be a 2 month ceasefire if all the hostages are released, Qatar is helping to facilitate this Hopefully this succeeds , the sooner this terrible conflict is over the better

Is Alaska part of NATO? Russia will only attack if its not part of NATO

If not Russia will save the world by invading and denazifying the EU....we always have that

Meh, its seems like you just dont like the outcome of the poll? India, Argentina, Brazil, South Africa, Indonesia, Nigeria and Kenya could all be considered non-US aligned countries and the data still puts the US as more trusted than China And 59% is not great but that's much better than the 28% that China received. Im also not surprised with this outcome, if you just consider Corona and how the Chinese tried to deny the virtus came from China its another reason most people trust China less Lets throw the question out on this forum, who do you trust more. China or the US? On this forum most people probably dont trust either much

I completed SoZ after about 60 hours and it was a fantastic experience, it easily scores 73/100 on the influential " BruceVC game rating system " I thought the new mechanics were really well done and fun and they include the map, good idea to explore and for random encounters the merchant trade system, once I understood it and built up my merchant company it was very rewarding seeing things progress. Great feature It was interesting but I completed most side quests, except for West Harbor which I somehow didnt discover, but when I got to the final battle with the Zehir priests I was only level 12-13 and I got slaughtered about 4-5 times. So I went back to exploring the map and raised my overall levels to 14 and then I was able to defeat the final end bosses But great game overall and the entire NWN2 trilogy is highly recommended for anyone who loves D&D rules with a compelling and worthwhile narrative Now Im playing PoE White March1&2, I have just started and its interesting the obvious differences between that ruleset and any D&D game

Latest global polling by PEW puts the US as seen in a more positive and trusted light than China on almost every metric "A median of 59 percent of the public in 24 countries has a positive opinion of the US, compared with 28 percent who say the same of China, according to the survey released on Monday. " https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...ely-than-china-across-24-countries-poll-shows https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2023/11/06/comparing-views-of-the-us-and-china-in-24-countries/ This rabid " anti-US " sentiment is more common on certain forums and SM or pro-Palestinian protests but its not what most of the world thinks and particularly not when you compare China to the US

Yes I read that but the lobster story comes from the book and there have been specific people who questioned this but its because its from the book ...the 2 are connected I was just pointing out this is a type of criticism the book gets and it becomes a focus

No thats not the same example, you can have an opinion of a game after 3-4 hours because thats normally enough time to understand its mechanics which is repeated generally throughout the game. And you can definitely rage quit a game because of its mechanics, you dont need 100 hours of being exposed to the same fundamental problem to know you dont like it But when we want to have an objective opinion on a book then you should at least read it or not think the message of the book is about 1 point discussed in 1 chapter And that applies to most things in life and this often applies to people like Peterson, I have no issue with people who dont like him or dont agree with him. Thats your opinion and you entitled to it but you must have a valid reason for not liking and it has to a legitimate. So for example thinking Peterson " destroys Feminists\Liberals\wokeness " because of how SM comments often frame his views is not a legitimate reason. Because thats not what he does and how he makes his points in debates, at least not the ones I have seen. And I have watched about 18-20 of his debates