BruceVC

Sure but the peace plan also requires the Palestinian leadership, whoever they end up being, and the likes of Iran recognizing Israel has a right to exist. Jews arent going anywhere So we far from seeing peace in the region, lots of political will needed from both sides

Well he mentions Jerusalem specifically and says the Palestinian state would be based on 1967 borders which also means any illegal Israeli settlement in this region would have to be removed. It's a viable 2 state solution which is what many people are calling for as the best solution for sustainable peace But the Jerusalem solution is " Jerusalem is dear to both peoples and to the three Abrahamic religions. Acting on their behalf, Israel and Palestine will jointly administer the Holy Basin as a condominium (shared sovereignty). Outside the Old City, Israel will have its capital and sovereignty in the Jewish neighborhoods, Palestine in the Palestinian neighborhoods " Its better than any peace plan I have heard from any Palestinian or Israeli group, have leadership from either side provided any serious peace plan in the last 15 years?

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Also you can't take seriously what Russian propagandists say. We have all experienced some of the hyperbole over the last 20 months I can guarantee you Russian tanks wont be crossing the border of Finland

https://time.com/6334832/peace-plan-israel-gaza/ I found this realistic peace plan from an Israeli Jew that Time has posted Everyone who is looking for ideas for sustainable peace should read it for suggestions of how it could work. You will see he includes several key points at the end that include contentious issues like Jerusalem @Gorth @xzar_monty and @Zoraptor your feedback would be appreciated

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Public sentiment in any Democracy can definitely sway a government's geopolitical decisions And the US is no different in that regard if not more influenced and it depends on how conflicts are perceived Unfortunately the plethora of fake,biased and selective news influences peoples political views but there is still legitimate issues citizens may have about a conflict

I cant play these very violent games anymore, I just cant Why cant they develop games where we all go for a picnic and the mechanics of the game is about making sandwiches and stopping ants from eating the cheese or cookies Why must everything be about violence?????

Well if you want to intentionally conflate things that Russia is not responsible for then yes Russia is behind this Its not really a serous point to make and it doesnt change the long list of things Russia is responsible for but you can do that

Russia accusing Finland of " human rights abuses" You couldnt make this up if you tried, thats about as sincere as ISIS wanting the ICC to charge the US for violations of the Geneva Convention

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/15/poll-us-israel-support-hamas-war#:~:text=Four per cent of respondents,ceasefire and try to negotiate”. Interesting polling data about how US public sentiment is turning against Israel and its obviously because of the heavy handed Israeli response and high numbers of civilian deaths. To quote " US public support for Israel’s war against Hamas in Gaza is eroding and most Americans think Israel should call a ceasefire to a conflict that has ballooned into a humanitarian crisis, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos poll. Some 32% of respondents in the two-day opinion poll, which closed on Tuesday, said “the US should support Israel” when asked what role the United States should take in the fighting. That was down from 41% who said the US should back Israel in a Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted on 12-13 October. The share saying “the US should be a neutral mediator” rose to 39% in the new poll from 27% a month earlier. Four per cent of respondents in the poll said the US should support Palestinians and 15% said the US should not be involved at all, both similar readings to a month ago. Some 68% of respondents in the Reuters/Ipsos poll said they agreed with a statement that “Israel should call a ceasefire and try to negotiate”.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67459141 @xzar_monty and @Elerond I see Finland is closing its borders to prevent the weaponization of illegal immigrants from the Russian border Thats an effective strategy, lets see how long Russia continues to abuse the plight of immigrants when they cant enter Finland

Zora dont undermine the outrage, remember we support the ICC now because several countries want Netanyahu to face ICC charges The ICC matters and we must all support it when it has just jurisdiction or a member country is involved But on a serious note, the ANC has demonstrated probably its greatest example of political and ideological flip-flopping around foreign policy I have ever seen. Literally 3 months ago there were many ANC politicians saying things like "the ICC should be ignored, SA must leave the ICC again " or " the ICC is irrelevant " and that was because the ICC had issued the warrant for Putin Now those exact same politicians a mere 3 months later are saying the ICC is credible and significant and suddenly the ICC "matters " but of course Hamas shouldn't be charged at the ICC You couldnt make this up if you tried

Really interesting video of the history of Bethesda and how the evolution of technology has influenced what Bethesda can create and the success of games Lots of small things I didnt know like Todds first game was Terminator at Bethesda...I didnt even know there was a Terminator game And Morrowind saved them after the sales failures of Redguard. Todd always comes across in such a likeable and sincere way Needless to say for all fans of Bethesda this is indubitably another " BruceVC must watch video "

I completed KOTOR 1 after 45 hours, it was a much shorter game than I was hoping for but it was great fun. It gets a solid 70/100 on the globally followed " BruceVC game rating system" I enjoyed the SW lore and the game provided classic Bioware fun around how you can do quests in your own order and I appreciated the companion interaction. I ended up Romancing the hottie Bastila and I saved her from the dark side Most combat became easy from level 14 or so with some exceptions but the battles on the Star Forge were challenging and I only succeeded by using my Jedi Powers strategically. I had Canderous and Jolee in my party for the final stage And I had to adopt a " cowardy " approach for the final battle with Malak, I used my Jedi speed to run away from him and destroyed the Jedi healing pods. Then I used Throw Lightsaber to wound him from a distance and killed him in normal lightsaber combat when he was on his last health But Im enjoying the SW universe so I have decided to play KOTOR 2 next

Its not the same analogy and you know that A house is a personal space and land in this case represents a state for both groups and both sides need to accept they going to be living next to each other, neither side is going away Also the Jews and Palestinians both can trace their ancestry to the region going back thousands of years. So both sides have valid arguments to want a state in the region

Sure, not all the offers were great but did you did you read the first one ? "After the breakup of the Ottoman Empire, following World War I, Britain took control of most of the Middle East, including the area that constitutes modern Israel. 17 years later, in 1936, the Arabs rebelled against the British and against the Jewish neighbors. The British formed a task force, the Peal Commission, to study the cause of the rebellion. The Commission concluded that the reason for the violence was that two peoples, Jews and Arabs, wanted to govern the same land. The answer, the Peal Commission concluded, would be to create two independent states, one for the Jews and one for the Arabs, a two-state solution. Rejection number one. The suggested split was heavily in favor of the Arabs. The British offered them 80% of the disputed territory, the Jews the remaining 20%. Yet, despite the tiny size of their proposed state, the Jews voted to accept this offer. But the Arabs rejected it and resumed their violent rebellion"| It seems like the Palestinians had no interest in sharing the disputed territory because that was a good deal

Yes they have also refused several offers for a state and some really good peace deals https://besacenter.org/palestinian-rejectionism/

Thats fine, then Finland can make a reasonable demand that Russia can absorb them? One of the main problem with the US and SA immigration crisis is countries allow illegal immigrants to pass through and the immigrants dont want to immigrate to these countries SA is currently overhauling its entire immigration laws because of massive flaws with how local laws integrate into international laws and the unsustainable resource burden this places on SA https://www.gov.za/speeches/minister-aaron-motsoaledi-release-white-paper-citizenship-immigration-and-refugee We basically tired of being told you have to accept illegal immigration and no other African countries want to take any responsibility Oh and I just did a quick check about what countries take the most immigrants and Russia is not on the top 10 list? And Im talking about countries that people want to immigrate to https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/slideshows/10-countries-that-take-the-most-immigrants?slide=10

Yes and you need to strengthen your border security because of course Russia will take advantage and abuse the reality of immigration And Russia is lucky because very few immigrants want to immigrate to Russia. The main immigration destination is always Western countries An idea could be UN funded refugee camps or Finnish\EU funded refugee camps like we see throughout Africa and the ME? People are safe but they cant leave unless they have resources.

Yes but you can be informed about the conflict and have an opinion and it would echo what other recognized negotiators have raised. It does require understanding of the conflict so I definitely dont think becoming informed about something is preposterous or means nothing, its just an opinion based on historical data and what other people have suggested through the decades And thats better than a lot of what I hear which is unhelpful or unrealistic suggestions like " the Israeli are Colonialists "or "Israel doesn't have a right to exist " or " there is no way a 2 state solution can work " which doesn't help in the interests of compromise Your opinion also doesn't have to be deep, for example the obvious way to end the war in Ukraine is for Russia to end its invasion. Then they can start discussing things like NATO or Crimea But in the Israeli conflict there are real points of contention and compromise that need to be made like Jerusalem, the ending of the building of illegal Israeli settlements, Israel's right to exist and the borders of a 2 state solution None of these dont mean anything, they all relevant because they have been raised through the decades So Im asking what is anyones suggestion to a long term solution to peace based on the numerous issues that both sides have?

Gorthfuscious what's your view on a sustainable solution to this decades long conflict? I am not sure if you have noticed but generally most people only get involved or have an opinion when there is an active conflict like what happened on 7 October and then the views are just about the responses that both sides make because we are dealing with symptoms But what should leadership on both sides agree to in the interests of peace? Lets say you were in charge of negotiations, what reasonable demands would you raise?

Yes and that's a ridiculous and unhelpful suggestion from far-right Israeli politicians and no one's going to take it seriously. You notice they suggest "the West "must take them in Israel definitely cant expect anyone to absorb 2 million Palestinians, who is going to take that economic and social burden? The only realistic solution to sustained peace is a 2 state solution But leadership on both sides isnt prepared to compromise and there is a lack of political will. I predict the Palestinians will stay in Gaza but it needs to be rebuilt

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/bbc-apologizes-over-israel-hamas-120525521.html Here is an example of the misreporting going around in this conflict but this apology was towards Israel

"We " was used as general term because I have made several posts about what the stated Israeli military objective is and they have publicly mentioned it on many occasions. They want to wipe out Hamas in Gaza and destroy there operating bases. I also assumed you have been following this conflict and the Israelis have never said they want to end the Hamas ideology because you can't kill an ideology