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It wouldn't really make sense if digital copies are included there since they are not actually "shipped". Only if every copy sold is automatically a shipped one.

About that expectation thing. In every buisness there is "expectation" and "EXPECTATION". I really have not much of an idea on the gaming industry side of things (or even how Square Enix sets it internally). But a product falling mildly under the expectation bar isn't really an uncommon thing. Furthermore. Don't forget that this is "just" 3 Months of sales/shipments. We have no idea in what timeframe the 1mil. should be reached. So, saying that it didn't reach expectations is quite far fetched in itself. We'll see in the coming months how it played out for Square and how interested they are now in continuning the franchise. Long-run sales have never meant anything in this industry, and it should be considered that the number is shipped. To actually clear out a lot of those shipped copies pretty much every retailer is offering huge discounts on Dungeon Siege III. So is Deus Ex. Both of those were overshipped (at least in the first few months). I haven't actually seen that many sales for DSIII recently so selling those seems to have went pretty well. (Compared to DX and Juli-Sept. DsIII). List price went down 10$ or so, which seems pretty normal.

About that expectation thing. In every buisness there is "expectation" and "EXPECTATION". I really have not much of an idea on the gaming industry side of things (or even how Square Enix sets it internally). But a product falling mildly under the expectation bar isn't really an uncommon thing. Furthermore. Don't forget that this is "just" 3 Months of sales/shipments. We have no idea in what timeframe the 1mil. should be reached. So, saying that it didn't reach expectations is quite far fetched in itself. We'll see in the coming months how it played out for Square and how interested they are now in continuning the franchise.

No. We don't know the view of SE on the sales figures but the release of DLC seems to have been accepted rather...silently for a successful game. If I hadn't been tracking Obsidian games, I wouldn't have noticed the release at all. Yes, that was weird. Though, during the time of announcement till release there was a big marketing push for Deus Ex + DLC. So, maybe they just wanted to focus on what would (logically) sell more in the end due to sales and critical reception. + DSIII wasn't the meatiest game so people that already liked DSIII are more likely to buy the DLC. Of course, thats more or less speculation. And I disagree on the top down vs third person debate. I would agree that probably more people like 3rd person but I prefer top down nearly all the time when it comes to my hack n'slash. On all plattforms since SNES days (of course back then nothing else was possible except first). (Though I would rather have it more zoomed out than in DSIII. Third Person was the worst thing about Witcher 2 and gave me a lot of confusion.

First off 4-5 Million+ sold like Bethesda games do is exceptional for RPG games. Period. Secondly, you don't know that. You don't know if it was a fail. Like at all. Comparably with how other big comparable games do after ~3 Months its actually doing well/average. Of course we don't know if it will be enough for Square to continue we don't know. That's in the Future Fake Edit: The number generally (outside of this place and a very few others) isn't badly recived at all. If you visit the neogaf link you'll see that nearly all comments about the number was positive. Considering how Neogaf recieved that game they would have just loved the oppertunity to go Boooomb on it.

Basically this for me too + Online Co-op. (It has other problems too but they are mostly "in need of improvment" rather than big faults.)

Head over to a merchant. Sell and buy back your equipment. You sell and buy back your items. Basically, the achievment has to be done in one sitting.

I think you have to recover your gamertag and earn them again.

Thats nothing news worthy and I struggle remembering a DLC launch where something like this actually was posted as big news. Max a forumpost. Regional (and platform) differences in release of online content are pretty normal for various reasons.

Edit: Scrap that, looked in the wrong place.

According to a statement (forgot source I think it was from that analyst) the Missing link DLC apparently sells like hot cakes so I'd think it was the right decision (from a pure buisness perspective) (and thats of course assuming I'm actually right here. But, really could be any number of reasons)

Wasn't there a bigger gap back then between Release and DLC? But, yeah. I think that even had a trailer. I'm sticking to my speculation that it was because they focused on marketing for Deus Ex/The missing Link. That also seems to have paid off.

Square Enix leads the marketing here. And they have been majorly preocupied with Deus Ex during the last few months and probably couldn't get budget approved. Or maybe they blew the max possible budget towards Marketing for DSIII pre-release which is quite possible. Edited.

Sales "expectations" are normally higher than actual sales/shipments. So, its not a big difference. And Alpha Protocol cost a LOT more than DSIII. In every way. Theres not even remotly a comparison here. From what I see it did okish.(Even neogafs comments are mostly positive on that number. NEOGAF) Edit: According to a comment there DSIII even had a much higher (15% more) shipped/sale rate than DX. Aye, Alpha Protocol had way more people working on it and a longer development time. Not to mention all the costs for the dialouge sequences/cinematics (including things like Motion Capture), UE3 licensing, some high profile voice actors and so on.

At least tell us if we should or shouldn't expect an announcement in the near future so that we don't check everyday in full excitment.

Sales "expectations" are normally higher than actual sales/shipments. So, its not a big difference. And Alpha Protocol cost a LOT more than DSIII. In every way. Theres not even remotly a comparison here. From what I see it did okish.(Even neogafs comments are mostly positive on that number. NEOGAF) Edit: According to a comment there DSIII even had a much higher (15% more) shipped/sale rate than DX.

These comments are hilarious. The "Not getting Saint's Row 101" But I guess you would actually need to play it to be able to understand it.

It doesn't. I said the text doesn't exist anymore. Just its google query. Edit: The text changed... Is it in googles cache? How do you use that nowadays? Edit2: Heres the segment I posted, Text didn't changed. I did not look hard enough^^ http://www.google.ch/search?q=obsidian+gam...920&bih=879

Either its finished (since Avellone? said that they were working on two projects at the moment (NY and NC) and that goodbye E-Mail I posted earlier today) and in QA and they are only announcing it a few weeks before release (since its a small project) or cancelled.

Don't you question Morgoths magical ability at judging games.

I just checked Linkedin Rich Taylor still seems to have Project Director status. Is it possible he went to New York after finishing DSIII?

Was Dungeon Siege III a AAA project? I'm also wondering about that. DSIII visibly kept costs low at several points.

That 820k ain't bad at all if you ask me. Quite small team and not very long development time. No, for any AAA project that's a bad number. I doubt they could even recoup the cost with that (especially if it's shipped and not sold, but let's assume for a minute that it's sold). Thats a big assumption on your part. And we know previously that the sales excpectations was 1 mil from that linkedin profile. Its not that far from it. I also don't really think Dungeon Siege IIIs costs were all that high in the first place. (Its not good numbers, of course. More moderate)

Dungeon Siege III has sold 820k according to some unconfirmed thing I just read. Looking for confirmation. Probably as of 30.September like the financial report they released today. Source: http://twitter.com/#!/gibbogame Its from David Gibson whos apparently a Tokio based Analyst.

Searching google somebody seems to be leaving tomorrow/today and used pastebin for his Company goodbye e-mail which google picked up on. Of course the text doesn't exist anymore but there is a small segment which confirms North Carolina. http://www.google.ch/search?q=obsidian+gam...920&bih=908 I feel like a really creepy stalker.