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I'm still not sure I understand how/why Malichor V was destroyed the first time, or how the "fragments" of the planet still have atmosphere and can be crashed into. What the heck is the mass shadow thingie? I have to assume that Obsidian was up against a deadline and just sort of made the final levels "hack-n-slash" just to get it on the shelves by Christmas. I'm not terribly fond of Peragus or Telos either. I like it when I finally have choices on where I go next. Unfortunately, in contrast to KotOR I, this one almost has a "preordained" order in which the rest of the worlds need to be visited: Paragus--> Telos--> Duxun/Onderon--> Nar Shadaa--> Duxun/Onderon--> Dantooine--> Korriban--> Telos--> Dantooine--> Malachor I feel the original was a lot more "open-ended" in the middle.

There does seem to be a lot of "all or nothing" going on here. Nothing is 100% good and nothing is 100% evil. Things are never so binary.

Very very sharp. Be careful.

"...and I --I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference." Sorry, couldn't help myself... ;-)

What about poor misguided Atris?

"Hydro" means: connected with or using the power of water showing the presence of hydrogen "Spanner" means: 1. A wrench having a hook, hole, or pin at the end for meshing with a related device on another object. 2. Chiefly British-A wrench. "Hydrospanner" kinda sounds cool, but I am willing to bet it is some sort of perverted inside joke at Obsidian. Well, it's just mentioned an aweful lot. Each example by itself is nothing, but all of them together... (Minor spoilers below, so beware.) Like when you ask Bao-Dur about his arm, and he makes a joke about how it kept dropping his hydrospanner. Or on Nar Shaddaa, Tien(Is that his name) keeps mentioning a hydrospanner. "Where's my hydrospanner?", "If you use the workbench, make sure you put the hydrospanner back in its proper place", stuff like that. Or on Dxun, the mandolorian who's repairing things mentions stuff about hydrospanners. Something about how he was "never very good with a hydrospanner", I think. And isn't there an option for you to say something like "I'm very good with a hydrospanner, let me help"? Isn't there also something about using a hydrospanner to smash motivators on something? Can't quite remember where this occured, though. Not to mention the whole hydrospanner quest on Dantooine. And don't forget how when you fail to repair T3 at certain times, you can say something like "Whoops! Must have left my hydrospanner in there!" And also, when you install the pasifist package in HK-47, he mentions something like "Be careful, I have seen how you use a hydrospanner" Seems like I'm forgetting some. Edit: I also forgot, hydospanners are even in some of the cut content. In the HK-Factory quest that was cut, for example. One of the droids there was apparently supposed to help train droids for torture. This particular droid had a few programming issues, it seems, and mentions something about "Do not spare the fusion torch or hydrospanner!" in a deranged voice. Hydrospanners as torture implements... they're everywhere! <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You seem to be under the impression that LA doesn't have any money...I don't think money is a problem. Apparently, they are of the opinion that the quality of the game can be less than stellar and people will still scramble to buy it...and they'd be right. Considering how much better the game could have been if LA had allowed Obsidian polish it a bit more, (not to mention how much more money it might have made) I find the "money excuse" lame. :ph34r:

I'm not trying to start a flame war here, but the issue of KotOR2's inadequacies comes down to LA pressuring Obsidian to have the X-Box version ready b4 Christmas. If it weren't for that, I am certain the game would have been far more polished for both versions.

The hyperdrive doubles as a toilet...just don't use it while in hyperspace!

I'm tired of people calling anyone who wants to know when the patch update will be ready "whiners." (w00t)

That's flame-baiting... for Darth Lego. It makes me think that a PC version should have been nixed though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I would like to see a little more revealing Echani costume. Perhaps not quite true "see through" but a little more transluscent? In the jan-u-wine interest of uh, preserving the Echani customs, I'd have to suggest without... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I uh...have to second that suggestion :D <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I too found that only one of the jedis I took with me to Freedon Nard's temple could interact with those areas. Perhaps it has something more to do with alignment or levels.

KotOR III: Dark Force Rising I would like to see the story go back and forth between the two sets of characters from the first two games. While The Exile has left to determine the fate of Revan, a new threat to the stability of the Republic emerges. Czerka Corporation is making a power bid for several inner systems, and tensions between the Mandalorians on Dxun and the Exchange are building. Events both inside and outside of Republic space are hurdling towards one another, and timing is everything. Something like that...

In this situation, it is not the big details that matter as much as the small. We know certain things happen, but we do not know precisely how they happened. This is the intriguing part for me. And there are people who have never seen the original trilogy. I run into these unfortunate souls from time to time.

Darth Vader is a cyborg. His getup keeps him alive. Have you seen any of the Prequels? the name Anakin Skywalker ring any bells?

Darth Malak was consumed with blind hatred and was always characterized as not being as powerful or clever as Revan. Clearly Malak was less imaginative and more bent on total domination and destruction.

I think LA put a lot of pressure on Obsidian to release TSL before it was ready.

You do know it recharges more slowly in battle, right?

Did you miss the announcement that Obsidian (A.K.A. Bio Jr., A.K.A. Obistan) was making NWN2...that was about when they all showed up. :ph34r: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm a "wannabe" builder. I don't have the time or patience to build the kind of mod I want to build. I have seen some pretty crappy mods out there and I wouldn't be able to submit a mod that I didn't put together so well, that I refuse to commit to it. Very self-defeating of me. I was bored with DiabloII faster than I was with NWN for the very reason that NWN at least made the attempt to make user-expansion possible, also, DII had that horrible perspective issue.

There are so many scripting tools available for the non-scripter at this point that yours is moot.

Ok, I admit it. Maybe I was too hasty. I REALLY loved KotOR, and TSL just didn't seem to set well with me by comparison. I'm willing to give it another chance and play through since I paid for the game...

:: Spits coffee all over keyboard :: Hey, put down that crack pipe! NWN is a blocky 3D version of Diablo but not half as much fun. Challenging? My arse. Now I know you're trolling, or alternatively you are also freebasing on crystal meth. My six year old nephew could write a less hackneyed and predictable plot. The second expansion. And it isn't a masterpiece but it is a tremedous improvement on the dreck that went before it. Cheers MC <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Heheheh. Chill out MC, he's a fanboi, came with the rest of them. Tee-Hee, 'tis a shame he's such a die-hard fanboi, he has such a cool username too. TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch = Acronym used by the Loonies The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert Heinlein. It means that even if something appears free, you pay for it one way or the other. The example given in the book that the Acronym came from, was that there were Cafes on the Moon that offered 'Free Lunches' but then made you pay twice the price for drinks, thus negating any savings, and 'paying' for the lunch. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> fanboi? What is this new lingo? I call 'em like I see them, however, I am considering that I may have been too hasty with TSL, I only played through once. I REALLY liked the first one and this one just doesn't seem as good to me.

I'd complain and buy it anyway because I couldn't stand not knowing what it was all about.