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I wonder what their winning strategy is? Like how long would you think that if they won, would take them to realize that they've driven away their audience?

"But i'm not the world's most masculine man but I know what I am. I bet I'm a man and so is Lola" I like that song.

What is the difference between the two links, has it something to do with the website ? I have a moral objection against the website. You wouldn't buy chocolates from ISIS would you? Anyways, someone posted it somewhere else so NVM

can we get an archive link?

One of us should just out himself as a psycho and do a let's play stream, while the rest argue about it.

Tequila is quite the heavy drink. Not just alcohol content but also the rate at which is processed by the body, it tends to lead people into overindulging.

Is so beta that all companions are going to friendzone you.

Since the forums seems to have a thing for fit women (and because I do): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o7ywjtWO8U

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Elliot Rodger threated to shoot people in internet earlier this year before his killing spree, comes first to my mind. Is a slippery slope, up next people will be getting prosecuted because of precog crime. There isn't any real basis to put a person in jail just because they said something stupid.

The thing is that these allegations are from a month ago, this whole thing has developed very fast and is quite disorganized. As usual the collective memory seems to be short and I find it suspect how contributions to TFYC seem to have been all but forgotten. Quite the misogynistic thing to do, donate towards helping women make games. On a more conspiratorial note, I believe that the reason why ZQ seems to have all but vanished is related to her involvement with trying to take down TFYC. Would quite the damning thing if everyone's favorite harassment victim was revealed to be involved in that debacle.

@Bruce: The article and the links to the article covering IGF corruption should address your question. http://www.takuchat.com/indie-developer-lost-connections-just-re-posting-video-gamergate/ The reason why GTAV and games like it are still coming out is because the media doesn't control the consumers and therefore publishers keep going for what sells, the indie scene is however a different story. They don't have the resources and are much susceptible and vulnerable to influence by gaming journalism, as their promotion depends a lot on the connections they have. It is another matter entirely when journalist use their position to be arbiters of what is acceptable or not. Edit: Also, the fact that feminism has been co opted by some of the more radical elements doesn't seem to bother you. Why would GG become disturbed by what are small extremist elements using the tag.

You asked me a question and I gave you a perfectly reasonable answer, now you don't like my answer? I'll explain it a different way, end of the day if you want to do something about harassment and abuse on the Internet all you can do make personal stands and make a decision on principle, you are not necessarily going to impact change but that's not the point . Because no one controls the Internet. So what does this mean? As I mentioned distance yourself from GG, but explain the reasons why when you make this break. This does not mean you are suggesting every person on GG is guilty of abuse and misogyny. But GG is tainted, so rather don't support the overall movement. You can still discuss issues with gaming journalists but what you guys fail to grasp, despite the fact I repeat it regularly, is that GG won't achieve anything because of its lack of real support from the gaming industry And if you disagree with me then can you explain what changes GG has effectively been responsible for implementing? Because for me all it seems to do is polarize discussions? And then going back to what else you can do. If for example you are on a website that allows bigotry, like RPGCodex, then challenge people who make homophobic, rape jokes or anti-Semitic comments. Its not easy I know that, its much simpler just to say nothing. But once again when you make a decision around principle that becomes the salient reasons why you may or may not criticize certain comments. Never ask yourself "what will people think of me if I say this " ? (and of course sometimes this is a consideration ) Finally the objective of challenging abusive behaviour on the Internet is also to use your discretion, so there are times where you just have to let certain comments slide. Considering how many GG supporters are in the same position you were when you decided to stick by feminism and SJWs when you found out about their harassment, I would have thought you were more empathetic as to why people stick by GG despite is faults. Despite the harassment games themselves are not misogynistic, and right now GG is what is standing from feminist censorship of medium.

And the craziest guy in a black group is the white guy. When you're the odd man out you have to prove yourself more than the rest.

Actually is more of a knee jerk reaction. There was an experiment with monkeys and social conditioning, the monkeys where locked in a room that had a stair and a fruit on top of it. When a monkey tried to reach for the fruit they turned on a spray that hit the monkeys on the bottom. Eventually the monkeys began self policing; when a monkey tried to get the fruit the rest would stop it. Then they began taking out monkeys and putting new ones in and when the new guy tried to get the fruit the rest would stop it. Eventually the new monkeys would join in the policing attempts. They continued this until the original group was completely replaced and the monkeys still had the conditioning. Its ritual without the meaning.

Come on, is been a while since the media has attacked game violence. Is almost nostalgic at this point.

Well, seems like the Guardian is now part of the axis of evil http://theralphretort.com/internal-email-shows-guardian-mind-made-gamergate/

Hard to argue when you start rambling hyperbole, reminds me of playing chess with pigeons.

So you're not defending the same game journalists that are merely spokespersons for publishers? Or are you blissfully oblivious to that fact?

The status quo is not apolitical, nor is "not evangelizing." I.e., that was the eternal cry of the hegemonic group having hegemony challenged. Mm, the smell of Molotov ****tails in the morning... "Hegemony" Says, the guy defending the corporate sock-puppets.

Also, did you see how he put a gun to that woman's mouth before blowing her head? Clearly a misogynist.

There are the matters of Game Journalist doxxing, harassing, and deliberately targeting developers as well. But there is a fundamental difference between feminists and other political groups, these feminist in particular feel the need to evangelize. Other kind of reviewers hold back on the political stuff, leaving just a comment instead of making it the center of their review.

It also looks like it was made with one of those fancy schmancy Crayola Crayon boxes that has 48 crayon colors instead of 16. Actually it was done on the Unreal Engine. I know this because me and some classmates saw it featured on the UDN website, for reasons that we assumed were political (game was being publicized as having been developed by women) rather than because it does a good job of showcasing the engine (it looks like crap)

Not necessarily, sometimes there is great talent on a development team that can manage the level of quality required for a cinematic model. Mostly within cinematic games, so in this case you might be right.

Cute how the lady barely gives a **** about her (presumably) husband being left behind. I thought it was her dad. Also, they launched off in **** shaped rockets. Misogyny! I watched that trailer muted, while listening to the ISIS song. Laughs were had.