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Woah, wait a minute... are you sure? Because it would make *way* more sense to me for that to happen if you didn't choose to romance him but chose Mical instead... you know in a Tale of Two Cities Sydney Carton kind of way... So, I guess I'm just wondering if it's just speculation or if you have a reliable source for that notion... Now, on topic, I seriously need GOTO conversations for my current fic... I've tried digging through the .tlk file, but I haven't gotten very far yet... anyone know if there are any transcripts anywhere?

We'll have to disagree on this one, I guess... unless you want to look at it from the aspect that the Jedi Order had become so corrupted that it wasn't really light side any more either... which is a valid way of looking at it, I guess. But I will adamantly stick to the idea that the Force wanted the Jedi Order cleared out and started over.

Whose mission? It was what the Force wanted of him... just as the Force wanted the Jedi Order destroyed in the KOTOR2 timeline. The Will of the Force will be done! This is why Kreia hates the Force and is why K2 is such an incredibly interesting game.

And both fail at fulfilling their destinies, but please...never use that comparison again: It's like pissing into Mr Herberts coffin. Anakin did NOT fail at fulfilling his destiny in any way. He did exactly what he was supposed to. He brought balance to the force. He wiped out the Jedi Council AND the Sith Lords. He was the Chosen One after all.

Being curious I looked into finding more images of Okona and have decided that if anything, Okona is loosely based on Han, as is Atton. He is missing Atton's trademark fingerless gloves, his shirt is much too puffy and he has a pony tail, for goodness sake! http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/seri...sode/68366.html

And I think this goes back to the Gray Jedi discussion in the other thread. The Jedi council would pretty much have you believe that any deviance from their way of thinking would be "falling". We see that especially with the way they treated the Exile. As far as saying Revan was an "inexperienced student" goes, you do have to remember that these people are basically monks who do nothing but study from a very young age. By the time you hit 20ish and become a full Jedi Knight, there should be very little that you don't know, especially in your area of expertise. I can only assume that Revan's primary area of training probably was military strategy. It would make sense. Now, where Revan would have been inexperienced would have been in dealing with the rest of the world. This could be an advantage to a true strategist, and could also play a part in Revan's fall. He wouldn't be the first person to toss aside a life long ideology as soon as he gets a taste of the real world. I didn't call Revan that. Makes it seem like your talking to me when you quoted me then didn't say you were responding to someone else. Good points, though. Ah, yeah, it's a bad habit I have to respond to a particular point in someone's post and then respond to the thread topic in general in a separate paragraph... I'll try to do better next time...

And I think this goes back to the Gray Jedi discussion in the other thread. The Jedi council would pretty much have you believe that any deviance from their way of thinking would be "falling". We see that especially with the way they treated the Exile. As far as saying Revan was an "inexperienced student" goes, you do have to remember that these people are basically monks who do nothing but study from a very young age. By the time you hit 20ish and become a full Jedi Knight, there should be very little that you don't know, especially in your area of expertise. I can only assume that Revan's primary area of training probably was military strategy. It would make sense. Now, where Revan would have been inexperienced would have been in dealing with the rest of the world. This could be an advantage to a true strategist, and could also play a part in Revan's fall. He wouldn't be the first person to toss aside a life long ideology as soon as he gets a taste of the real world.

Atton>Bao-Dur>Carth>Jolee>Canderous>HK-47>Disciple

KOTOR 2's storyline while incomplete had so much more potential in it. It was like Empire compared to A New Hope. Those who wanted nice wrapped up stories were miserable and hated Empire when it came out. I know I did (but I was 7 so it's understandable). And perhaps it was K2's open ended, unfinished qualities that drew me in, left me wanting more, so I replayed it and replayed it. It will never satisfy, and even if it had been given time to be completed, it would still be open ended and feeling "unfinished" because it is the middle chapter in a trilogy. My only hope is that one day, the last chapter will be told and told well. That being said, the game is buggy as all hell and frustrating. I got stuck in a bug on Nar Shaddaa my first time through and had to completely start over after over 40 hours of game play(I went and finished all the other planets first thinking I just missed something). I enjoyed the bugs, though, that let you level infinitely on the Hississ and allowed you to duplicate crystals and completely trick our your lightsabers. KOTOR was a much better game technically, but I got the story and moved on. It didn't make me think, it didn't make me ponder the nature of the force and it didn't make me want to strangle someone for not finishing some of the romantic options. (Though Carth's declaration of love in the middle of the party was pretty lame and disappointing).