Judge Hades

Cheaters suck.

Bugs don't bother me. There is no such thing as a bug free game. It is the after release support that matters, and Atari, with the exception of NWN 1 and mostly due to Bioware's efforts, have a very bad history about supporting their games.

Well, the game won't be out til September anyway so they have plenty of time to do the bug swatting.

This issue isn't important enough. A person will either buy the game or not buy the game and I already said I plan on buying the game. When it hits the bargin bin. Besides, I am too tired to bother.

Hades is getting owned a lot lately. He should have quit when he was ahead. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Like it matters.

Sorry, buyt I don't have Paranoia. Good game though. A friend made a Munchkinlike card game based on it.

In any case 20 hours is short for a CRPG. People are saying that shorter games are the norm now and I agree, but that doesn't mean that the norm doesn't suck. Bottomline the question we have here is a 20 hour CRPG worth $50? In my opinion it is not. Especially if that game is going to follow the same route of leveling as its predecessor where people were reaching max level a good time before the game 's end. 20 levels in 20 hours is stupid, plain and simple. There is no excuse for it.

To Meta: Eh?

I disagree therefore I am.

I won't divulge that information.

Only if I am getting paid to review it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh you will get it and do a cute little review like you did with DDO and Oblivion. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sure, if someone buys the game for me or I am getting paid to review it. If it is out of my own pocket then it will follow the path of Bloodlines.

Doubt it. Most of my friends didn't like NWN 1 and the rest aren't PC gamers.

Only if I am getting paid to review it.

Only, and only if the people playing it are people I consider more competent than myself in the genre of the game.

Sorry, I am not David Copperfield. Sorry, no illusions up my sleeve. Hell, no sleeve. In any case I appreciate Feargus being honest about the game length and I will be buying it, but I will be waiting when it its the bargin bin, just like I did with Bloodlines. By then there might be a mod or 2 worth downloading.

True enough.

Its hardly a conspiracy when it is transparent as glass.

Well, they probably had better things like finding a new company to work for.

The developers do have a clue. They made the bloody game. J.E. is just trying to do some damage control, and that is all.

What can I say, I have a gift for these things. Except for that damn godmode bastard werewolf. Well, it was an IE game, and all IE games have the same basic style which I have honed with multiple playings of BG, BG 2, IWD, and PS:T which I played to death (30 to 40 times each) so when IWD 2 came out it was pretty much a breeze. Add to the fact that I know 3e decently well I was able to make a fairly optimized and powerful party that pretty much owned more than half the game. Who is better to know the game than the those who created it? I trust you guys enough to give accurate information on game length in a game you created.

That is the exception and not the norm. Damn bastard godmode werewolf. Grrr.... Did you play it on the hard setting? I did.

Actually I said that I would buy Bloodlines when it hit the bargin bins which I did.

Because I know that I tend to get a handle of games faster and play the game efficiently. It took me 20 to 25 hours to beat IWD 2. It took me 12 hours to beat BGDA. It took me 28 hours to beat KotOR 2. And so forth and so on. You guys spout estimate times, but each and every time I play a game I am under that estimate time by a good 25 to 50 percent. So, Feargus says 20, I expect to beat the game in 10 to 15. Not worth my time.

Fan made mods are the extra bonus but not the meat and drink of a game and it isn't part of my calculation that determines a game being worth buying or not. WHat determines worth is the quality and length of the game and I am sorry, but if I thought 20 levels in 40 hours was lame in NWN 1 20 levels in 20 hours is going to be twice as lame. Also I tend to beat games about half the time that most developers claim to be their game length. So, 20 levels in 10 hours. That is just plain stupid. No need to play it Angry Joe when the developers tell you all the shortcomings of the game before you play it. Good thing Feargus told us up front on how long the game is so I wouldn't waste my money on it.