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Thanks. This gives me some ideas!

Necroing this thread! Have any of you tried a Mirke shadowdancer who wears Painted Plate into a fight, gets flanked, and goes to town? I recall that the -50 recovery from Streetfighter is so effective that it negates a higher recover time. my MC is a Sharpshooter (first time playing ranger MC), so I am thinking of either having Mirke as an SC mortar monk or some kind of dagger build.

I see - I always struggle between heavy armor and medium choices, so I am gonna go with medium more so than heavy. Like you mentioned one of the worst feeling is being super slow and unable to do any actions, esp. early and mid game on POTD. I feel like once you hit max level, the game becomes much easier, aside from some of the DLC content, which spikes up the difficulty quite a bi. Vikrathi ,and Vessels I am looking at you LOL!

So essentially, you agree that Painted Plate's +2 AR upgrade is not worth it, considering how slow you are? The only ideas that come to mind would be: a Paladin/Rogue Holy Slayer that uses Offensive Parry on Whispers of the Endless path (WoTEP) along with Riposte (I think offensive parry AND riposte could theoretically proc at the same time) Paladin/Wizard which insane Deflection who does not need to "worry" about attack speed, since their role involving buffing to the high heavens ,being surronded my mobs, and then perhaps relying on Tactical Meld to get +3 engagements Streetfighter/X -- I am not a math major (hehe) but the attack speed bonus of streetfighter may greatly negate the malus of painted plate. Perhaps with Bloodlust from a barbarian, this is even less.

Are you able to outheal the dps for Doru? I recall the damage type is crush/pierce, and rather high PEN ( A Painted Plate armor set wit the +2 AR, and a paladin's +Armor could get quite high... along with the +armor pet, +armor food, and the ever great Blunting Belt). I will have to try that in my current run. Pallegina will be the dummy to test it. Yes, I liked your YT videos very much. And , yes , of course BDD is a great option if you wanna go the route of Ancestral memory, SoT, and least unstable coil.

No they are both summoned weapons, so you can only have one summoned at time, and you cannot switch between them. For example, if is not possible to summon the blackbow, and change weapon slot, and then summon the minor blights

I like the idea mentioned here by @Ivanfyodorovich . When I ran Fassina, I used her with the blackbow to terrify enemies, and summoned as phantom to duplicate. First I would have her scripted to do all the wizard self-buffs , cast the bow summon, summon her phantom (regular phantom is better here b/c it wont cast) and then she uses the wizard ability Citzal's Marital Power to even better accuracy. Still, It really hurts not having access to illusion AND Evocation spells with Fassina

I can relate. This fight is really a battle of attrition unlike any other in Deadfire. I would start to searching the forums for Dorudugan tips and advice, as there are quite a few great ideas others have communicated on the topic. I will add my suggestions viable for POTD upscaled (all) w/ Community Patch) . Item related spoilers follow. Offensive Approaches: Take a look at all your items and see which ones can increase your damage potential. 1. The Cap of the Laughing Stock provides -10 Deflection to nearby enemies and allies, and Blackened Plate Armor provides -1 AR if you stand close enough. The club shattered vengance provides a stacking damage curse, which can speed up the fight . Also, Marux Amanth has the Worthy Sacrifice ability for when the boss is nearly dead. 2. The Priest Spell Spark the Souls ... zaps Doru with shock dmg, which it is vulnerable to. What you can do is summon a huge army using chanter(s) - such as the Sword and Bow Army summon. You are not going to land this spell each time since Doru's Reflex is high , but it does add enough to speed up the fight. 3. Essence Interrupter is a good weapon here; also, whoever uses it should stack on +vessel accuracy items (I dont think any +damage ones exsit) . This character should also have as many other +accuracy, crit, dmg, items. 4. The rest of the party can use crush damage from scepters. 5. Lastly, and importantly, no character can tank Doru and live to tell about it! So, just use summons as fodder. Having the summons up can also create a barrier for when Doru starts to use his pull abilities . *the self-heal ability from Doru's fireballs is annoying; the only solution I can think of is using Effigy's Husk with the -75 healing ability , but this would require the character to be low health AND near doru, so you'd probably need to do Salvation of time cheese here . (As far as I understand, an essential phanton or Monk's summon does not inherit item abilities, but I need to test!) Defensive Approaches 1. One character will be your 'medic' and have the Bloodfire Cloak that absorbs fire damage AND immunity to push/pull effects (via one the items you mentioned) . This char should also have revive ability or scrolls 2. Another character can have the push/pull immunity item. I would chose a character without an ability to nullify engagement, such as "Escape" from the rogue. 3. When the Helfire Barrage ability activates, use +movement chants and find a place your party can be to avoid it. As you said, a character with sky high reflex should be fine, and your 'medic' is immunue to fire already, so they'll be fine. If people to do, have a means of reviving them. When both Helstorm and Helfire Barrage are activated, this is where having your summons up and creating space between you and Doru saves you from being engaged with him, and knocked prone.

For your RP approach, you could be a rogue/barbarian watcher who uses the Escape ability, programmed to the further target -- which tends to be casters or archers, and then go to work there with the weapons of your choice. In addition to what was mentioned above by Boeroer, you could start the fight with blunderbass' (blunderbi? I wonder how this noun is pluralized ... prescriptively or descriptively?) Powder Burns modal, get distracted, and as a Streetfighter you could attack the mobs with insane attack speed. This could allow you to use pistols, and melee, but not at the same time. So, in way you would be an insane pirate who starts with pistols and then uses daggers, sabres, or stilettos. Streetfighter/Black Jacket would be a good RP fit, but a Streetfighter/Tactician could work too --- assuming you get immunity to flanking for yourself, and rely on a Cipher to use their Phantom Foes. Or a Streetfighter/Devoted could be fun w/ daggers as your chosen weapon. I think daggers have a generally lower PEN than other weapons, so Devoted would help overcome this, along with Hot Razor Skewers.

Mid and late game, which weapons do you have ydwin using: Stalker's Patience and Shattered Vengeance? I run it with Frostseeker and then weapon set 2 is Kitchen Stove. I might try a 1 handed pistol too. I should also try something different like this , but I tend to run the same every time for most characters, which I wanna stop doing

That is so cool! How does an echo apply here ? Does it cast the spell twice? So that is like 10000 missiles haha!

I think you hit the nail on the head here: casters cannot, and should not, only do damage spells. In a party, your ability to debuff with wizard spells, for instance, and apply terrify through certain spells, is so powerful and more "damaging" than a giant fireball. Terrify is one my favorites spells, since the disengagement attacks are do deadly, and enemies are useless when terrified. Miasma of Dull Mind, Chill Fog, Combusting Wounds, and countless others are perfect set up spells before you cast a damage spell. As @thelee mentions, empowering is quite strong with certian spells, esp. at high levels. I haven't played an Evoker Wizard or Fury Druid, but if did , I would have another cast who does the debuffing for me. I tend not to empower much at all early or midgame. I stack up on incredible foods, and boons from the Inns, and then continue the game. I do not metagame around required rest situations, as that is too much micromanagement. I also do not use no-rest approaches, for the same reason. Personally, after finishing Port Maje I tend to find a party I want to run, and eat the best food right after. You can get all the ingredients early and cheap with this: Cornering PEN, Empowering certain spells each encounter means +PL for the spell, which is only + 1.25 PEN. That's why I prefer to eat foods instead that provide a bonus each time. That being said, when you reach later levels, the empower passives make it even better. To each their own, I say, as both approaches are good. if you are not against resting multiple times, then you can use per rest abilities for weapons and gear. That unlocks another dimension of play. Lastly , I personally do not empower characters to get resources back. Between the PEN reduction strategies mentioned already in this thread, you have enough tools to win most battles.

I see -- and it is fully upgraded ? And did you rest with her in the party? Just wanna be sure... That is so strange! https://pillarsofeternity.fandom.com/wiki/Marux_Amanth Do you have any mods running which may conflict with it? If you are not opposed to using the console, you could generate a new copy for yourself . there might be a way to bypass the soulbound upgrades, but you would have to investigate.

Hi Arnold --- I think that skill is a per rest, right? If so, try resting, and it will reappear.

1) I would go with Animist or Ancient. The former has no penalty while the latter has one that is not big deal. I haven't made druid for a few years, but I think you cannot play no subclass, or am I mistaken. 2) Power Level 1-2 Sunbeam is great (Blind is such a good debuff), Hold Beasts will make battles against beasts much easier (especially early game), Dancing Bolts (shock dmg), and Nature's Mark is always useful, esp. for boss fights or tough mobs. Talons' Reach is unique in that it targets Deflection, while most other druid spells target Fortitude (which is often a defense that is quite strong on some enemies) Really, there are so many good choices it is hard to go wrong. Try to decide your role as a Druid first: do you want to focus on damage first , then heal, or heal, buff, and then use damage? really, you can and should do both in most fights. Also the ancient subclass is fun to make your summons grow BIG!