Product of the Cosmos

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6847.htm If you have 50 minutes to watch. Maybe you will learn something about the people in power in the USA. And what really happened on 9-11. This is conclusive evidence IMO.

In the SW story, there is what, 25,000 years of development with a central government by the time the Kotor story was in? Thats much more then ours of modern technology. You can't really compare our timespan, with the SW stories logically IMO. I also highly doubt the Capital of the Universe would be incredibly different in a 30,000 year period of it existing, when you take 4,000 years off. But it would sure be sweet if Coruscant is in KotOR II!!

Surely your right in many scenarios. But I highly doubt in this scenario the USA gov't would test such things, on Mexican Air Force on one of their patrols. Esspecially 11 of them. lol. When it comes to such taboo subjects as EBE's, at this time there is no direct evidence for the average researcher of the subject. But through deductive reasoning through materials that are available, it's extremely likely that many different races are already here, and have been for thousands of years. The information is out there, its just hard to find all of it, and harder to piece it all together. Most people don't even bother trying. And thats why some people are allowed to publish this information. The best recent book I have found that is not OoP or concealed is: 'The Day After Roswell' By Retired Pentagon Colonel Philip J. Corso. In this he explains how he introduced the tech recovered off the Roswell crash into society today. Using the front 'Foriegn technology'(which isn't exactly a lie, lol) and giving this to corporations(like Bell Labs, IBM etc) with existing contracts with the gov't having them reverse engineer the tech. The companies doing the reverse engineering didn't even know where they came from. 2 of my uncles work in Silicon valley. One is an independant contractor who ussually works for NASA. The other has developed cutting edge technology breaks for Sun Microsystems, and both of them agree the book's timeline is immpeccable. In his writing of the book he has support from the military itself, de-classified documents. As well as naming all the names of the people who in their deathbeds finally came clean. Information sources like this are mainstream for anyone who wishes to read, to read. But with all the propaganda and false material out there not many people even bother. btw, just for anyone curious. Corso claims he was involved in the reverse engineering of the following things from the Roswell crash: integrated circuitry(microchips), lazers, night vision, nueral/brainwaves technology to control something(like a ship, or a video game, lol), kevlar, stealth technology, fiber optics, And more. If your are not consumed by doubt of these claims, read the book. It's quite interesting to say the least.

True it would be hard to cripple our infrastructure completely. Im tired of arguing something that is ridiculously vague and unprovable.

definitive means irrefutable, PoTC. just because some people believe in circumstantial or otherwise suspect evidence does not make it definitive. put any existing evidence up to peer review by experts of a wide range of fields and you'll be left with a gaping hole in the "proof" department. granted, i fully believe there are aliens and i don't doubt they have been here (or are here)... i've just not seen anything produced so far that amounts to proof. no secret either, that counter to those that want things to remain unknown, lie those that would distort the truth or fabricate evidence in order to make something "known." two sides to the coin, here... taks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Some proof is not showable. But, your right there is no mainstream proof for the masses to see/feel... "no secret either, that counter to those that want things to remain unknown, lie those that would distort the truth or fabricate evidence in order to make something "known." two sides to the coin, here..." There are also those that gain from creating these distortions. Ever notice how people are wayyy skeptical about this subject? It's normally because there have been so many scams and ploys. Who gains from these ploys, even if they did not do them: Those who wish the truth about this to not be known. These ploys are so efficient is creating a gap between real info and people, that I would tend to believe they support ploys to create such skepticism. But who really knows...

I wouldn't call it mercy...

"because to date, there have never been any cases of definitive proof of the existence of extraterrestrial beings on earth." For you and many others maybe. But not everyone. There has been definitive proof for many eyes. No secret that some want this to remain unknown.

Normally for other reasons than the disscusion of politics. Once again an over exageration. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> To my knowledge theres only 5 bridges connecting Washington to Oregon, about 60-85% of the traffic goes on 2 of those bridges(both of which are always packed unless its like 2 am). If they took out only 3, this would devastate many people here. The traffic here is horrible as it is. I-5 bridge, 205 bridge, and a bridge up by Astoria, would really screw things up if take down.. For many months. If all 5 were taken out people would have to go through 3 states to get 1 mile across the Columbia, unless they had a way to get across the river. This is not an over exageration. And whatever the terrorists have planned(if anything), they could have taken out somewhere around 20 million people on 9-11 with 1 plane. They still can. If all they wanted to do is kill Americans with no other motive involved they would have gone for the #1 threat to the US, and went for 20 million dead. But for some reason they went for the WTCs, even on 9-11, the hijacked plane flew directly over the #1 threat to America if hit by a terrorist attack...

wheres the option for just 'ya i got it, lol'. Im not outraged, nor would I have bought it under any condition.

lmao! Thats awesome. :D

lol I guess chalk this up under 'there are crazy people, so anything I consider too crazy for reality I attribute to crazy people'. And elle. You can find dozens of links for this with google. But I'll find a link(s) for you. http://www.etfriends.com/ETVreports.html http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/story/R.../BNStory/Front/ http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?t...storyID=5109891 (LOL, they removed the story on this site) Although the site doesn't go into as much detail as the report I got. I'll look for more ina sec. For a lot of results check: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=...ially+confirmed or refine the search to get some sites that slip through the cracks. LMFAO@someone voting for "No, but whatever happened, it wasn't EBE's" when they didn't even hear about it. LOL!

lmao^ I wouldnt know the facts about the hurricanes either. But this is still hilarious to me. lol

I'm pretty sure he meant that one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> LMFAO! I'll hook it up with some good recipes later today. Do you have a crock pot chem? j/w

The speeds and ships of the UFOs in this case were ridiculously superior to our own. This event is not speculation. As it was confirmed by a whole battalion of military troops. The fighter pilots and hundreds of civilians. Complimented by videos, pictures, as well as an official confirmation by the Mexican Government. So no, this is not a theory by 'crazies' G-pa.

Religion is the second worst thing to happen to humanity IMO. Enough said. lol

Knowledge/Intelligence/Wisdom/Blessing I believe. Funny how something like the possible first contact of an Alien race isn't talked about in the media. Boggles the mind... lol. You'd think that would be bigger news then a double murder, or whatever they are blabbing about these days.

Recently 11 UFOs followed Mexican Airforce on one of their standard patrols. The Mexican Gov't gave a full disclosure of this event. As did the pilots, many military witnesses. Videos, pictures. And civilian witnesses accounting for this event. But did the media you are subjected to talk about it? All I saw was a ticker on Fox News saying 'Martians in Mexico', do a 2 second flyby and not a peep after. lol BTW, EBE=Extra-terrestrial Biological Entity.

lol. Like 97% of which get locked. And life would go on in almost any scenario. But it sure would make it tough on many millions of people. You don't want to travel through 3 states to go 1 mile across a border...

"Please don't tell me you are naive enough to think interstates are the only way to get from state to state. What I am saying is they would need to detroy thousands of roads in many different states to cut one state off from another for you to think any different shows you know little of the road ways across the US." I've traveled on Americas highways and Interstates more then most. I just couldn't find an overview map of highways on the net. Yes there are many options. And many people use them all! With a huge one taken away, it would cause quite a big range of problems.

LOL^ditto

(interstate map) As you can see. There are not many routes. And many points of pivitol nature. Although I seem to remember more Interstates in Cali. Maybe this site is obsolete. Quote: "However, one of the most important aspects of the Interstate Highways was their limited access. Although prior federal or state highways allowed, for the most part, any road to be connected to the highway, the Interstate Highways only allowed access from a limited number of controlled interchanges." As you may know. A large river cuts Oregon and Washington(Columbia), there are a very limited number of bridges crossing this border. And they took many years to build.

LMAO I got a nice laugh out of Ralph Naders proposal. Outsource Chinas CEOs here! LMAO! They'll work for 1/10th the price, probably harder.

Dakoth there are sections of I-80, and just about every interstate, that are extremely pivitol. We have too much traffic as it is. Taking out pivitol traffic areas would be devastating. Traffic in the Portland area is HORRIBLE, same as Seattle. If ANY of the major traffic areas were taken out in either of these cities. We would be in 3 hour traffic jams everyday. There are traffic jams here at 10 at night! Its taken me 3 hours alone to get through Seattle before! And thats WITH a functional interstate system. "Huge problems does not necessarily mean those areas would be crippled as there is almost always more than one way into a city." There are not many ways into Portland from Washington, other then the I-5 bridge. Otherwise be ready to travel quite a long ways. With an easy fews bombs, they could disconnect states from each other! And bridges take a LONG time to build. If not be crippled, majorly hampered it would be.

In the time it would take to get it back up many of our 'paper' records could be dealt with as well. The options they have are somewhat limitless. So if they truly are an organized group. uh oh.