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Wish I had that rulebook on me, I could look it up. Blasted vacation. Malks are still around in WoD, but as jorian said, they're a "subclan", but I thought they were Mekhet instead of Ventrue . I preferred the Masquerade arrangement, personally. Didn't somebody say they were working on a Vampire MMO? Not really my bag, I'd like to see another Bloodlines-esque game, but eh, it's something.

Yah, I took the "Moderate success" comment to mean that Fallout had been moderately successful both as a game and as a product, when it seems to me like it was pretty good as a game. Not sure how it sold, but I remember regretting getting F2 at full price when just 2 weeks later it was in the bargain bin could've saved $20. I used to think that F2 was better in all ways than F1, but then I played F1 again. Maybe it's nostalgia, but it's now back on top on my liar.

NO I THINK THEY SHOULD NEVAR MAKE ANOTHER KOTOR

low seduction score, though. Look at 'im. One of Grom's main beefs seems to be that Fallout wasn't good and Timmy still coasted to continued business on it anyway. "Fallout wasn't good" makes me giggle :D

I would say you should have waited at least a week, but at this point you seem to have given up on subtlety altogether. As for the structure of the clitoris, it's not a revelation. Sexuality studies at uni (fun class) looked pretty hard at stuff like this. There are all sorts of manuals that can educate you on this kind of thing.

Ah, goth music. Even I had a Skinny Puppy kick a few years back. God, that was so stupid. But for sure lyrical inanity, you can't go wrong with... Body Count. Those are actually the lyrics of two songs by the band Body Count, from their album entitled Body Count. There is also a track on the album that is called "Body Count" that is different from the two mentioned above. Ice-T never did get the recognition as a songwriter that he deserved. Sure, it looks bad here, but when you actually hear it, you die just a little bit inside. Headland - What Did You Say? Plaid - Zamami AFX - Pissed Up In SE1

Anybody have resolutions for the new year? Come on in, we'll trot them out in list fashion. Like this: 1. I want to start making rice that isn't dry. This probably means getting a better rice cooker. 2. In addition to that, I need to learn how to make good food, at home. Going out is killing me in the wallet, let me tell you. 3. Get some workout time in there, a few times a week. 4. Floss and flouride! This normally wouldn't be a reasonable resolution, but I still remember that last trip to the dentist, and I've been getting a lot of toothaches, so I can take the extra few minutes every morning.

That's all fine and good, but that would imply that the factions are fighting over something, influence or land or resources, and Denver is a hole Nobody really wants to be there, and none of the factions are really after the same thing. The salvagers are NCR convicts on work release from prison, they've got nowhere else to go, finding something valuable about the dangerous ruins is the only chance they have to improve their lots elsewhere. On the other hand, the Slavers don't want to be there either. There's nobody to enslave, nobody to sell their product to, and the terrain is dangerous. Everybody has to live high above the ground, there are so many scavenging dogs. They're only there because they have to be, as a waystation for their trade between the lands across the mountains and across the dustbowl to the Eastern US. So the best thing to insert at this point would have to be something like a Vault. An untouched vault is a scavenger's wet dream, and any CODE stuff or perhaps some inhabitants would be a goldmine for slavers/raiders as well. Gaining control of the vault would be a golden ticket out of Denver and into the highlife, and it's the only thing that's come readily to mind that both factions would readily clash over. Throw in whoever lives in the vault who wants the city to themselves, or just want to be left alone, and you've got a nice mix of intrigue. I'm open to suggestions that don't include a vault, but it's the best option I've got right now, outside of bringing in the BoS or the Enclave or such (the NCR comes in later) but that's way out of the PC's league.

If that original part of the program that allowed for self-modification wasn't a catalyst in any way, then yes. Maybe the changes become so frequent and byzantine that an origin can't be readily be identified. But in effect, the computer would still be a wind-up toy. The problem with free will is that it can't be given. Does any computer do things because it wills, outside of reaction to circumstances already accounted for in the program? Behaviorists might argue that men are slaves to the codes in our brains or in our DNA just as computers are slaves to their programming, but it's not nearly a neat enough comparison. There are differences as well as similarities between brains and CPUs. But I make no suppositions about a creator who winds us up. I'm not going there.

I'm suggesting that if a robot changes its behavior because it was programmed to do so, it's not spontaneous. If an AI changes itself when it was not given the capability to do so within the paremeters of its programming, that's something else entirely. But programs act dynamically all the time, that doesn't mean they're acting in accordance with their own volition, or as ends in and of themselves.

So I've ventured to "spice up" Denver a bit more, for lack of a better term. I took Josh's suggestion and built off of what I had. The PCs have to acquire some generators and some medicine to get what the Salvagers have that they need. Getting the generators will be relatively easy, but I'm moving the Slaver population of the locale from a hotel to an old hospital. So getting the medicine will entail either fighting the Slavers or dealing with them. But I'm torn on whether I should add in a third faction to the mix, so that dealing with the slavers to get the meds won't directly contradict working for the salvagers. Maybe take the easy way out and have the main slaver dude looking for a Denver vault or something, maybe having to do with the mind-control "CODE" system in VB (an ambitious way to control slaves). I can then tie this third faction in with said Vault (either coming from it, and tying into the Vault experiment and whatnot, or Tribals inhabiting it or something) and thus expand the RP potential of the locale even more. Conversely, I could Khan up the slavers, and make them an adversaries over employers. Or I could leave that up to the players. But I'm not sure how complicated I want to make this. I've been known to throw too much "Science!" hokum into the plotlines as a crutch, and generally overcooking everything. Maybe simplicity is the way to go. Sure, Denver is a big place in the game, but there are more important things that happen later in the setting (what happens in the design docs is waaaay too difficult for the PC's level), and I don't want to burn out the players on it.

What if the computer is able to modify it's own programming code? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If it did so because of the capabilities given it under some existing program, that still wouldn't be free will, technically.

I like how people are "taking sides" now. Teh funnay.

excerrent.

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Are you talking about the hooded girl, or the regular zombies? If the regular zombies, you had to burn the bodies / hope for a good head explosion. They were really nerve-wracking, especially in those long hallways, when you'd come out on one end and they'd get up and start making noise off-camera. But generally you had enough time to run back and get some kerosene before they turned. If you're talking about the hooded girl, just run. I went through the game with Chris, but sadly I didn't have enough ammo to face the tyrant at the end I hate it when that happens.

Spike Lee got attached to the JB biopic.

I thought Deus Ex had a very good FPS-RPG combat system. Wasn't twitch, but it worked. I believe I've said that before.

That's actually from NWN1, where you fight Desther at the end of the first act. Most people didn't get that far. Helm's Deep is from TTT (I made a little bridge ^_^ ). For what it's worth, there are LOTR references all over the ****in' place in D&D, as there should be, and Helm, god of duty, might be one. No idea why that'd be on a NWN2 map, though. *editzorz - Say, I've got my little art book that came with the Special Edition of the game, and there's a barbarian chieftain dude in there who I haven't seen in the game. Black Raven clan or something (don't have the book on me, unfortunately) Cut material, perhaps? Would've been nice to have barbarian warriors fight for you at Crossroads Keep.

My view on Troika was that they didn't "break ground", per se, but Troika's games from a RP standpoint, particularly Bloodlines, were pretty sterling in comparison to games that were being put out by other companies. Had they balanced the game better, I think Arcanum could have been as good as F2, and some of the plotlines (particularly the siamese twin quest) were just jaw-dropping. I blissfully ignore ToEE (couldn't get through an hour) I started out being revolted by Bloodlines' stunning lack of technical sheen, but as I kept playing it I realized how high-quality it was. I'd probably recommend it over any other RPG I've played post-BG2. Troika didn't make perfect games, but their existence was a comforting one, what with their lofty ambitions and whatnot that they could occasionally deliver on.

Loyality or loyalty?

What if they bring guns? You don't bring a knife to a gunfight. This thread might very well have outlived its utility.

It should be pointed out that unlike circumcision, FGM is not affiliated with any spiritual or religious institution. It's connected by some to Islam, but that's an erroneous connection. It's almost exclusively a local African ritual practiced by any variety of people, christian or muslim or other. Not unlike "dry intercourse". Africa is ****ed up in just too many ways. This is true, and in any case the health benefits of circumcision are rendered arbitrary by something as simple like condom use. But still, the case against FGM is much, much stronger. If circumcision is removal of the tips of the fingers, FGM by comparison is the removal of the arms. Functionality and sensation are both rendered null. Removal of the foreskin, if done correctly, lessens some pleasurable sensation at worst.