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I was going to say "as I have already said, it would be alright if a series was done around the Yuuzhan Vong http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Yuuzhan_Vong_War which would be interesting." I was also going to be creative using the links in a whimsical manner, but for some reason they wouldn't work. The "but" was going to be a picture of George Lucas, followed by http://forums.obsidianent.com/index.php?showtopic=38600 OPGs user profile was to be followed by a definition of "idiot" The following link was supposed to be joined with a "....." tag that would have a definition of derivative. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Scorpius.jpg Also there is this. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Boba_Fett#M...ABY.E2.80.94.29 <_< I didn't know that.

Do modern Christians still believe God made the world for Humanity? By extension do they think people are above everything else of the natural world thus believing everything is for their benefit? Just wanting to know how far it has progressed, since it is the modern age with this evolution thing. Which doesn't kill God, for if God created the universe it's not wild fancy that evolution is a part of that creation. :joy: the is back! I missed you so. What?

I can't remember but I know it wasn't very high. Somewhere around the norm without whatever EXP you would get from the Jek Jek Tar and G0T0's yacht, I would think. (:confused: <--- is no substitute for )

But is a child who knows nothing of religion any further from God than a learned person of the cloth? New emoticons! Not coming from a Christian background it isn

I'm curious, what exactly don't you get? I promise I won't go "Crusader" on you. By the way, it's "son of God", not "sun of God". In response to Dark Moth's question, since the above is in a topic for Hinduism. Mainly that the way to salvation is through Jesus. How does that work? To me it is counter productive for it imposes guilt

^Which one? It depends... A women would be more likly to worship a goddess of childbirth, just as the ancient pagans had a reverence for the earth. To complex to go into in full. One persons path to enlightenment would not be the same as another's. The dissolving is Nirvana when the self ceases to exist. The particles reminds me of the Carbon cycle in Farscape ^_^ , that and Margaret Cavendish's theory on intelligent matter. To further the creation of the universe from destruction there is Shiva. The vibrating particles could be related to the drum/heartbeat of the universe. I like Hinduism. I don't get Christianity. Aren't you an atheist? Science and religion are supposed to be able to co-exist according to the Bah

It said in the Amazon reviews that the graphics were really good. :crazy:

Japan has a declining birth rate and their culture isn't very western. Unless it is their focusing on whatever they focus on that is taking up so much time.... Probably video games. Real humans don't have tentacles. So that might be another reason. I thought a central principal of Hinduism was the mother. The link of our mothers, the Earth and the creator of the universe. I don't see Hinduism as being much different to how I see god, and all that is of "god". Since I am pagan that is not surprising. If the soul is eternal then we would be gods since god is eternal. But no that depends on where we are on the Karmic wheel. I would think animals are higher up than humans, since they are more in tune with nature, and are not confused by the interference of the question "What is god?" God is a human invention, we even made animals gods. The more complex a religion is (dogma and hierarchy) the further from the truth it's followers are. Spiritualists that focus on removing the self from the equation are closer to the truth than the person who focuses on interpreting a book. Whether a god is worshiped or not is immaterial to finding enlightenment. The Buddha for example found enlightenment. If love is divine, sensual pleasure can bring us closer to the divine. Not the way of Casanova, he found it depressing, obviously he didn't do it right or enough. Craving pleasure (desire) leads to suffering. Nirvana is nothingness, void of want and desire. I am only going from what little I have read and remember from Monkey Magic..... and Tripitaka was a Buddhist. The worlds religions are essentially the same. The Hindu Gods are different manifestations of the creator of the universe, the Celestial Cow born from the Void. The vibrating strings of the universe or whatever. It still doesn't answer the question of what came before the universe, I mean it had to come from somewhere maybe from the death of another. Rebirth, and reincarnation....

CREDITS!! :joy: Boredom is my motivation too! :D

Does this mean the porn bots are gone, what will I do for Hentai sado-maso?!?! :'(

Good for you Sturm. I always encourage youths taking up new hobbies especially if they involve self harm. The world is overpopulated.

OMG 666 that's so unfair.

I'm so confused. Radio, what sort of radio? BB code is the same that's good. Why would I want to insert an acronym? I don't need a doodad to insert one. "lol" What's the point of that? I could just write lol acronym= laugh out loud' :crazy: COOOLNESS SPELL CHECK! (w00t) Google is beter. Colour has changed. I don't like the white around the emoticons. Full edit? Quick edit? I don't like how it tells me when my BB code is in error. Needlessly complicated, and I use the "preview post" for that. I know it was like that, I was doing it for a reason. <_< Everything else is fine as far as I can tell.

You could argue that her hate and anger towards the force was just, it is no different to a slave wanting to be free. She blamed the force for her failed students so killing the force (that which drives events and actions ) is like killing god to give free will to all, not just the Exile. (If the Exile is free from the will of the force) If it was her intention to kill the force perhaps she hoped the wound in the Exile would feed off her creating some kind of feedback thus killing the force. But I believe that was a test along with everything else. You never know with her. I believe that is what would have happened if the Darkside ending was truly dark, but that would have killed off the franchise. :joy: Going by what I know of the D&D Alignments. Which isn't much. Mandalore would be Lawful. Atton would be Chaotic Neutral or True Neutral... eh he goes both ways. OOTS! Mira would be Lawful. Bao-Dur- Lawful. Handmaiden -Lawful. Hk47 would be like the halfling. G0T0- Would be Lawful... I am not certain. They are all loyal to some ideal, even with the alignment shift brought about by the influence system they still in essence hold to what they feel is right. So the Jedi council was wrong when they said the Exile was controlling them. Nihilus- is the only true chaotic (the psychopath) the Sith that lives for slaughter. Maybe Hannhar as well.

If what you say is true that actions over-rule justifaction, then, yes, it's true, most likely. Since I view justifactions sometimes is just as important as the action itself, there is the remote possiblity of these "grey" beings existing (No reason really to thinking that justifcations are important...since you can lie to yourself about anything, see "Atris", but it's just me). LS and DS are quite easy to determine, just use Force Sight, or look at their Force Powers. Wheteter what they done was good or evil...that is up to interpertion. Most LSers are Good, most DSers are evil, but there are expections, due to the moral ambiguity exhibitied in the KOTOR series. ...I wonder, however, is Dark Side and Light Side really not about Good or Evil, but about Chaos versus Law. The Light Side is selfless allows for the impartial judge (The Force) to rule, so it can be seen as Law. Meanwhile, the Dark Side is selfish, wanting to rule the galaxy and rebelling against the impartial judge, so it can be seen as Chaos. If so, this can allow for Good DS and Evil LS, just like in D&D Alignment. --- I do actually think that the Jedi Council was right to not attack the Mandalorians, judging from the fact that the Mandalorians were used by the True Sith to bait the Jedi. But that is for yet another time, and I see I am in the minority... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Truth, particularly the underlined. Can't bold the bolded. ) I don't even agree with the concepts of morality and evil. [Wont go into that here even if it makes me look :crazy: ] So it does get blurred. Lawful Evil and Chaotic Good still doesn't help.

Revan- If we go by the use of the dark to do good then Revan is grey. However the end doesn't justify the means. Simply: whatever your justifications are they are just excuses, if you do evil then you are evil. So Revan doing all sh/he did to save the republic, committing slaughters and such, was not good and noble in his/er intent. Or was because the end was for the greater good? That depends on what this greater good is. To impose your own will on the universe is a sign of arrogance. Kriea- Training the Exile for the end of "destroying the force".... It depends on why she wanted to do that. Was it because her students fell, so to prevent future deaths caused by the force she decided to eliminate the force as a path to power? If so then that is a good act. If she was training the Exile to aid Revan in the unknown regions, then that also is good. She was also using the Exile to kill the other Sith lords so they would not destroy the galaxy with their unchecked power. So Kriea is inherently good. Yuthura Ban- She wanted the power of the darkside so she could free the slaves of Sley... that Hutt planet that I can't spell. :D Her path to power involved killing her compassion so she could do what was necessary to free them. She would do that by being ruthless, so that means evil. Her intentions were also for the greater good, her means was evilness. The Jedi Council- reprogramming Revan for their end was in their eyes as a hole not evil, it was for the greater good, which would be the death of the Sith, and their continued position of power. "They are alleged to have turned Darth Revan into a slave, or at least a holocron from which Bastila would gain knowledge from. I believe this to be evil, and because of this, I call this a Evil LS act (since the Jedi Council were being LS at the time)."--SilentScope001 To rip someones consciousness from their body and replace it with one that is loyal doesn't sound very Jedish. It sounds like something a sith lord would do to gain information or to impose loyalty upon a slave. Apathy is death! If the council had acted earlier more lives would have been saved, so you could say that all that followed was caused by their inaction. When they had a chance to see what they had caused (the Exile) they did nothing. They Exiled truth, and why? Because it would undermine their power base. Destroying them would benefit the galaxy beyond measure. Malak- therefore in his rampage is good. Taris was largly populated by criminals and the weak, weakness is a drain on society's resources therefore weakness is evil. Bastila was trying to stop his efforts to bring about change, another reason why his cleansing of Taris with fire from above was good. His failed attempt to kill Revan was good, because Revan was evil. To kill one innocent is to kill all mankind, or whatever the Koran says. You can't have Good Darksiders or Evil Lightsiders, because actions over-rule justifications. That is why you have net darkside shifts. Even if you just told off someone for trying to jam a light-saber into something.

But you couldn't deactivate it so you burnt holes in everything you walked past. Poor little Jawa.

It is the sun of god, the light of god. Not "Son" as in the spawn of Himherit The Celestial Cow.

I saw Berzerk as the last post which sparked my curiosity and it was about my post in November.... weired coincidence. :ph34r: And thanks for the link to the Manga julianw. I doubt I would have found that.

I agree with Laozi. But to answer the question... No these 100 people don't have the moral right because you Eddo said that they hate the other 1000, how is hate a moral justification? :crazy: I can't be arsed debating morality.

DeathScepter, Exactly, but just because there is no proof that something exists doesn't proove it does exist. . From the link I posted.

The above is from the link that is below... http://www.theisticsatanism.com/geifodd/satvsdw.html Haven't read all of it. But what god isn't a human invention? :crazy:

If Christianity is false then their view of Satan is also. Although the horny one was another pagan god.