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Cathar(sp) make nice target practice. " HK47 is my favourite droid - not sure if it counts as a race. Not overly fond of the races in Star Wars. Most of them are just annoying. Especially Darth Nihilus. I liked Visas race...

My all time favourite line out of all the games I've ever played is... "You are easily the vainest, most arrogant man I have ever known! Besides, I know you can't be serious since I was purposesly *not* staring in your direction." - Bastila to my LSM Revan, hands on her hips, frown and all. :D And when she calls my PC insufferable. I somehow manage to get a kick out of winding her up every time. "

LOL! that's great and oh so true I dislike Vrook, but I disliked Kavar - what an ass. Given how he's supposed to be your former mentor, the fact he turns on you - regardless of your alignment. It's mean. I disliked the fact that you could only toy and bait Atris so much. It was almost as much fun as baiting Bastila. Oh and I disliked Carth in the sequal even more than I disliked him in K1. Vrook's an ass, but at least you got to see him die - one way or another.

I don't think the options were harsh enough, to be honest. Although you're not really enough of a level to use force choke, it would still have been nice to be able to... "The next time you fail me, I'll kill you." But yes, being able to lie to your companions more often would be a nice addition.

...I liked Gothich 1&2. Except for the controls NWN:OC was prolly the biggest let down I've played in a while. (Besides Kotor2 that is). So that gets my vote.

I disagree. I think Kotor2's more of an "interactive story" than an actual game. The combat sucks and I think the only reason so many people play it is for the story & the interaction between NPCs. Without the story & NPCs, I doubt Kotor2 would have sold at all. It's a good game in the sense it allows you to make choices, but aside from that... meh. Oh and yes, the combat is too easy. Did anyone ever actually feel threatened or in danger of death/defeat in Kotor2? Heck, did anyone actually *die*?

I'd say your dialogue.tlk is screwed up, but I wouldn't know how to fix it Good luck though!

Poor guy must have grown bored just hanging around and waiting to be killed :D. Maybe that's why he stopped fighting.

Flurry x3(or x4), repeat as opposed to "force crush" x2?

And you would have ended up under Goto and been subject to his manipulations, right? Forced to go save the republic and report directly back to him? Just on changing topics briefly, for K3 - I want to see "Group Stealth" options.

Do you really need companions anyway? You always end up alone - your PC vs. the Dark Lord/End Boss. It's not an anime - the whole friend/love/bonds don't really have to apply. In the end, you're always alone... Speaking of which, anyone up for renaming the Kotor series to "Angst of the Old Republic: Sexual Repression of Adolescence" ?

Yeah that does suck. . Too bad really. Your storyline sounded good overall. Not that I agreed with all of it, but there were definate elements that could - should - have worked. @ Skywalker Yeah I gathered, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

There goes the whole "choice" thing, eh? Er I mean, there is no choice, only the force and destiny.

Ah, that explains Malicore..... " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The real reason why female Revan turned to the Dark Side and waged war on the republic perhaps? Edit: And the real reason Bastila turned to the Dark Side was realising that the most powerful living Dark Lord in the galaxy was an adolescent with a mental age of 14

Eww. Why would anyone want to dual wield two-handed weapons? Let alone lightsabers? More mini games in K3 would be fun too. I missed using the turret in K2 to gun down sith fighters. The only time I got to use it was at the Peragus station and on the way to Onderon/Dxun. But then, I guess if I want a space fighter game, I should go buy one, right?

Sorry, I must have missed it. I only scanned the previous posts. As to exact orders, maybe if they introduced Psionics to NWN2 you could telepathically command them :D

Fanboys the lot of you. ... I like OB too :">

I want Kotor style control of NPCs. Proper NPCs that I can interact and chat with. That way, I can let the AI take control, and if I need to, "tab" to them and manually control them myself. Best of both worlds. Probably.

Metal Gear Solid - I was playing around and flying the Nikita Missile (I think it was) and managed to get myself gunned down from behind by a random guard. You'd have thought I'd have learnt that lesson, but noooo... I did the same thing again (the following day) on Unreal Tournament while I was hiding in a "safe" location, only to be sniped to death. <_<

Thanks for explaining. I didn't mean to eliminate the option as playing as a jedi though. Honestly, thats the best part of the game imo. I just meant adding an option not to play as one. I know that these games are all based around Jedi, but the exile cut himself/herself off from the force willingly. (I know the reasons would be slightly different though). But, in k2 people didn't refer to him/her by name/class that often. Okay, they called him/her Jedi a lot, but also Exile. Couldn't something similar be done for K3? If after all, they did make your character Bastila's pupil, everyone could call him/her apprentice or padawan or something and your character could start pointing out that he isn't a force user. Much like you can say "I'm not a jedi" in k2. Not that anyone listened. Just as an example. I do understand what you're saying about the time window though. Even so, if they had time, it'd be nice to see a couple of extra endings. Like one for a neutral jedi. Not that I'm big on it, but since Kreia's talks in K2, it might be nice to have one. I also understand how you can "pretend" not to be a jedi by equipping other things. Personally, I've no problem with it either. Without pointing any fingers, other's seem to. I'm not altogether certain just how difficult it would be to finish the game with a non-force user though. I'm half tempted to play through K1 and use KSE to edit out my jedi class and find out. I do recall having a hard time on the Star Forge when playing with non-force users as allies though. So I guess you have a point. That said, in K2, by the time you reached the end level, you didn't *need* force powers. Not *really*. Well, maybe if you were a consular. My sentinel/weapon master actually put his lightsabre away for that level and went hand-to-hand with them. Quite amusing dropping everyone with a max of a couple of master flurries. But anyway, I digress - you're probably right about the whole non-jedi thing. On a slightly different topic, I'd like to see characters from both games in K3. Maybe it'd be possible to pick them (as in being in the game). Or at least some of them. For example, if Bastila was head of the "Exile's" jedi council, then maybe Brianna would be the history person, and possibly Visa as one of the masters? You could go and learn from them. Atton could be off somewhere else doing whatever it is he does best (playing pazzak(sp?) no doubt), and HK47 could be leading an army of HK51s "restoring order" through "communications"(and combat) in an artful and finesse fashion. And T3 could be with Bastila. With jets. (well, maybe not). Something like that would provide a nice selection of characters - and you'd choose them by deciding what the Revan and the Exile's choices were (like alignment, gender) - possibly by arguing with T3 over what happened. (since he was there for everything more or less). Heck, maybe you could even argue that Carth was assassinated while being an Admiral of the republic by sith assassins. (wishful thinking on my part perhaps). If you were a pupil of Bastila's, maybe all this could be done as a history test as part of your jedi training. Literally as a test - yes/no style questions. It wouldn't have to be long, maybe only five or so, and a couple of side questions. No matter what you choose (even Disciple being incinerated) you'd pass, although maybe the last would get you a lecture and raised eyebrow from Bastila. (and maybe T3 could call up a conversation of Revan telling Bastila not to be so stuck up & stodgy like her old masters or something) But anyway, just a few thoughts. Whatcha all think? Someone else posted a while back about a lightsaber crystal that changed colour according to your class/alignment. I thought that was a fun idea too - it'd make a nice touch. Edit: Oh and as far as Revan and the Exile are concerned when it comes to playing as them again... I don't think it's possible. Well, maybe for the Exile, but somehow it doesn't *feel* right. Revan has his memory back so he'll be a master Strategist and therefore, it would be unfair, both on the designers and the players to be forced to play him in-character again. If he's that brilliant, it isn't possible to take control of him and select dialogue options without losing the 'mystery' or 'brilliance' surrounding him. If they did make him re-playable, I feel the game would lose something. Same goes for the exile, just not to the same extent (namely due to Force Bonds and all that stuff). Instead, I think that you should have the option to go learn from "Master Revan" (or become his 'new apprentice', darksiders) and possibly have the oppertunity to kill him (if you're darkside). I think that it should also be possible to go and learn from the Exile, but then your character runs the risk of being force bonded. (something that could be used to enslave you if you chose the exile to be dark side). I also don't know if a LS/DS Revan/Exile thing would work. Wouldn't they kill each other? Anyway! I want to hear what the rest of you have to say. Happy New Year everyone, btw.

An Aztec or ancient Chinese setting could be fun. Hell, I want to play as a Mongolian Khan and sweep through Asia.

If Kotor 3 is the last one in the series (I don't know if it will be or not), why *shouldn't* the character have the option to be a non-jedi? Wasn't that old witch from K2 saying how in some instances Jedi are actually at a disadvantage because they rely on the force too much? Something about putting a blaster in the hand of a jedi and a child would do better? So why not simply have the player choose what ls/ds/gender the exile and Revan were near the start of the game, same as K2, and then let this new character (I liked the idea someone posted about the player being Bastila's student though), pick his own path and choose whether to be a jedi or not?

Well, I read the thread and I wondered - why not a prequel? Serve in the Manalorian Wars? Stupid idea?