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one bummer for walkerguy: Where do we need God? To explain what we need Him? And above all, if really need one, why it must be conscious one?

... you ain't making any sense

Alpha should be changed to Urquhart in that version too, otherwise it is beyond perfect

One of the very best Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb

Yeah, managing to hold against superpower was quite a feat. Unchallengable fighting spirit was the key as well as better training (though not equipment), experience in fighting in woods and snow as well as "General Winter" as we call that bloody cold winter. Numbers were rather hilarious 250,000 men 30 tanks 130 aircraft vs 1,000,000 men 6,541 tanks 3,800 aircraft Hardly fair Tali-Ihantala was one crazy achievement, it was Stalin's elite then after all. And if that battle hadn't been succesful we would've been another soviet controlled puppet nation up to 90's

Radiohead - Videotape

Haha. Certainly I am far more willing to accept a conception of God that simply created the RULES by which the universe is governed and gave it a start value (BIG BANG WEEE). Even so, platonic conceptions of mathematics are fraught with their own problems. I believe the platonists were none too happy about Goedel's theorems. I only specifically mentioned and bolded platonian because: Platons Demiurgi: Kind, careful and elegant architect of universe Gnostic Demiurgi: Nasty bastard who thinks it is real god while it isn't, responsible for trapping us in corrupted material world And I was referring platonian kind of builder for the lulz, obviously

Oh, I'm sorry then. I guess my mind was still occupied with consciousness topic when I read that (and I was pissed off because of Daniel Dennett. Bloody behaviourist. And that is something turing machines are also related to in a way) and I reacted wrongly. Ahh, thanks for clarification. In a momentary lapse of not very reasoned thinking I thought you were referring to some sort of hidden variable theory with "quantum turing machine". Which are rightfully pretty much buried by now This is something I very much agree about. It can be very annoying. For example "we don't know exactly how trees and other vegetables actually get water up against gravity" (caterpillar effect etc. as we know by now) doesn't make up "zomg it's gods work". An I'm not joking, that is true example Though I might add that considering how carefully, heck, beautiflly even, some aspects of our world are "constructed" (Fibbonazi numbers, topic at hand and above all fractals. Oh you lovely fractals <3 ) one could see world made by God/platonian demiurgi.

How come it is more fun to play? Hey, I was here long before Hades created his eleventhhundred alt Sand!

Gahh, I didn't think I should've made difference between the two

What's your point here? Turing machine argument can be easily countered with, for example, Searle's famous Chinese room. Cellural automaton thing is interesting, but suddenly neural network = turing machine and classical mechanics are subset of quantum mechanics and that there are some quantum turing machines is more than weird. Are you trying to argue human consciousness is turing machine (L-O-L)? Or are you trying to make case against "only God can design something this complex"? If it is latter, I snarl at weak basis for deterministic viewpoint (there are better ones) but if is latter I can't help but agree. Very interesting thread/piece of information, but I don't get your point

Please prove how Mass Effect's story wouldn't have been better if they had limited character choices more. I don't see how it can be better. It is the only game in a decade that has removed Fallout from its number 1 position in my top ten list. Sand, hardcore roleplayer... choosing "consolised stupid POS" over legends like Fallout... Truly wonders of having sex with genderless aliens are unimaginable Geez Sand... Next you inform us that you've become christian

Well, I sure am thankful this topic this evolve into something. I too should be writing post soon enough I appreciate WITHTEETH's and Tale's different, deterministic views on the matter. I'd also love to have some views from more, uhh, spiritual members on the board (Hurlshot?)

Well, he thinks God is some malicious prick And isn't Xenu like that?

Over 9000 hours in MS Paint

Why anyone would want to "pull off an Oblivion" boggles me to no end

Radiohead - Idiotique Who's in a bunker? Who's in a bunker? I have seen too much I haven't seen enough You haven't seen it I'll laugh until my head comes off Women and children first And children first And children Radiohead's most "love or hate it" song. I love it

I rather ment it would've ment this thread might've not instantly degenerated into *** Don't ask, at least not yet. I've basically done nothing else than thinking about these things during these last two days and in this rate I'll become crazy. I've done extensive study on neurology, physics (especially quantum related), philosophy of Daniel Dennet and David Chalmers amongst many others, information theory, psychology... Oh, and I didn't mean predestination with determinism

... I want metadigital back :sad:

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Oh god, awesome

I was not commenting on their possible emoisness or something, I was just ridiculing your stupid attitude towards jrpg's.

Well, it is freaky. Bloodeye