Knights&Darths

Yeah well at least one of those you can send on a mission should get it, I hadn't thought of Atton though

KotOR: Korriban, The Leviathan, The Star Forge, Manaan, Lehon, Kashyyyk, Tatooine, Dantooine, Taris, Yavin, The Endar Spire. TSL: Malachor V, Korriban, Dxun, Nar Shaddaa, Onderon, Dantooine, Telos IV, The Ravager, The Harbinger, Peragus II, Goto's Yacht. Overall: Malachor V, Korriban, Dxun, Nar Shaddaa, The Leviathan, The Star Forge, Onderon, Dantooine, Telos IV, Manaan, Lehon, Kashyyyk, Tatooine, The Ravager, The Harbinger, Peragus II, Taris, Yavin, The Endar Spire, Goto's Yacht.

"Your mistress awaits. She has much to share with you."

"Ugh - what a pig! He even makes Gamorreans look classy."

Right, that's what I meant by "changed their minds", it must have been early dev, then they came up with that. Still they could have given Visas the Precognition power, I did when I found out, it's nice to see others have premonitions.

Come to think of it, you only get to choose between Czerka and the Ithorians, there's no way to actually screw the galaxy in this game. I found this too "The skies of Telos shall be shrouded in ash for a century, all that the Republic wrought there serving only as ruins to be uncovered by historians. These worlds, like Malachor and Korriban, will become home to darkness, creating new evils that will rise to threaten the galaxy."

Vash's corpse? You see the corpse and folks whoa at the blood, no premonition there, she's right in front of you. Same goes for the Shyrack cave.

"Without the fuel from Peragus, Citadel Station cannot maintain its orbit. It will crash into the planet, and its destruction will echo across twenty other worlds."

Jedi Master I think, Inspire Followers rocks and Wisdom getting the mastery bonus also helps stand against mighty Force users, a fine Guardian Jedi Master can be a real badass. Plus it's somewhat more familiar a Jedi title.

You don't get any premonition on Korriban. You get visions, you get telepathic guidance, but no premonition.

It doesn't have a real use, it just for cinematic purposes, that's an rpg you're playing there. You get another premonition on Citadel Station, if you stalk Corrun Falt to his apartment. He beeps the CSD and you see them coming while you're questioning the guy.

Actually I believe mines stick where you lay'em, still it's kinda lame blowing up a Jedi Master with mines, get some good upgrades and have the drop on him already.

Well yes, you should get the patch, but don't expect it to fix everything, it takes far more than that, the list of what it does fix is attached to it anyway. X-Box content can be unlocked in the pc version, just edit that .ini and start a new game, if you don't care to start a new game you can get a savegame editor and set to 3 the global number GBL_GAME_COMPLETE, if you just want to listen to the lines and you have a save with Brianna edit that one, then load and talk to her, same goes for Atton with the difference that his line is first thing in the game so you may not bother with the save and start a new game.

And I'm sure there's a reason, I was just trying to take a guess. As I said it probably has something to do with the new order. Star Wars canon was defined in Star Wars Insider, you'r entitled to have one of your own if you think that's not good enough, I'll hold on to it.

And what kind of balance is that? That's just the triumph of the Jedi, yet maybe the difference lies in the construct of the new order, I mean first we have a light glitch then a dark glitch and finally balance to the Force.

Oops, look I didn't mean to bug you out of this discussion, sorry if I did. Still I must disagree, canon is not what you choose to believe. I never did that, all I'm saying is that there's no real evidence, Jedi Masters don't know anything about the true nature of the Force, all they have is suppositions and most argued opinions dictated by their beliefs pratice and context. No, I couldn't, thing is there's still no canon source about the true nature of the Force. To bond with someone means their getting involved with you so you react to each other's feelings, a form of empathy if you will, strengthened by your ties to the Force. The Exile has a talent with bonding, and she's a natural leader so the connections she forms are strong ones, and her bonding got stronger as she isolated herserlf during her Exile, like someone who hasn't talked to anyone in years hungers to have people around. Prove what? I'm just saying that's a possibility, and that Jedi have no proof of their own, so you shouldn't take for granted their notions of sentient Force. Not properly, only sentients bear a will of their own, a system works as it does for its nature has it that way, not some phantomatic will.

For the same reason she's disappointed in everyone else: they're all Force sensitives but they would not awaken to their true potential, that's why she's always calling them names.

No, this is Obsidian boards. Kreia and the Force are born of earthling minds, so don't give me that "rules of this world does not apply here".

Indeed, she even says as much, I wonder why the Exile doesn't ask what's she gotta hide, but I figure that'd be pointless. "there are techniques in the Force, where one can cloud the memory of others, make their presence so small as to be unnoticed."

That's no cut content, Mical did know her, as a kid, during his time in the Jedi Enclave on Dantooine, before she got herself the markings of the dark side - and Kreia knew him, otherwise she wouldn't have known to have to hide from him - that couldn't be any other way, Mical was a prospective student as a kid, and he was left without a master as Kreia and many others joined the war never to return, so they at least saw each other's face in the time between his stay at the Enclave and her departure. ":: Betrayer. :: :: All thoughts of me will slide from your vision, from your mind, like water. :: :: You know who I am. But you will be unable to voice it, to remember it. ::"

The Force has no will, just like God, it's no sentient being, yet that never stopped priests from inflicting dumb fear-based cults on the ignorant, it's because humans always were prone to blame some supernatural force for their problems and always wanted something to hold on to, for hope. Kreia is not just one of them though, I don't think she cares if it's true that the Force has a will, she just wants to stop the madness of the neverending bloodshed, one way or another. The Exile is no "Force God", she's just can't stray from what she truly is, not a Jedi nor a Sith, that's why Kreia loves her, because she doesn't allow herself to be affected by the Force.

Kreia can't kill the Force just as she can't kill George Lucas, it is impossible to elude the Force, and she realizes this in the end I think

That's all Xbox restricted content but you can get it all the same by setting GameCompleted=3 in swkotor2.ini, under [Game Options] "Are you an angel? Aw, I'm just kidding. That's the worst line I've ever used. Hope some poor kid doesn't start using it." "I'm Atton. I actually wasn't supposed to make it into the final game, but I was created at the last minute. Blame my agent. I was actually slated for a spin-off to Jedi Knight, but I don't want to talk about what happened *there.*"