Blarghagh

I don't really care all that much, I just think it's funny that Donny Jr just tweeted it out and Trump's getting **** over e-mails after all this whining about Hillary's e-mails. (I'm not a Hillary supporter either.)

I have never watched CNN, so clearly not if I know about it.

I'm curious what you mean by mean spirited. Movie tries to get way too much comedy mileage out of pain and people being complete **** to each other. Might as well have cast King Joffrey and Ramsay Snow. That the jokes don't land doesn't help.

Oh dear, is Mr Trump in a bit of hot water because of some e-mails? Finger lickin' good, this.

Baywatch. Dumb and mean-spirited.

I'm a singularitarian.

Leftists are supposed to want a nanny state with safe spaces. How is anti-establishment leftist?

Most of those McDonalds jobs remain intact anyway. Taking orders is only a small part. Those same people will still be making those orders, putting them together and cleaning up.

Best post. You preach no discrimination and equality with that mouth? Yes. What of it? Nothing, I'm starting to develop indifference to hypocrisy on this forum, but sometimes it resurfaces. Carry on. It's a joke, Sharp_one. https://www.livescience.com/3634-conservatives-easily-disgusted.html Thin skin snowflakes. Worse than people obsessed with safe spaces - instead of finding a space and keeping others out, they go into all spaces and chase others out!

New Broken Social Scene album out today is really pleasant.

Makes me worry for Stan. In my (anecdotal) experience with older couples, if the wife goes the man follows soon after.

Well it's no biggie. I was just confused. Still a sad loss.

I thought he died like 3 years ago? EDIT: He did, that article is from December 2014.

Maybe you're immune.

Ethical =/= being within legal ethical rights?

Guys, let's keep the personal attacks to a minimum. These threads are already on thin ice all the time. There's a recent discrimination case in the Netherlands that I find both funny and interesting. A longtime female firefighter filed a case that the new physical test to keep active as a firefighter was too hard for women and therefore made it inaccesible for women. So it was sexist because it doesn't discriminate, everyone takes the same test regardless of gender. Also, there were a couple hundred complaints from men that the test was far too difficult as well and the woman in question is reportedly in her 50's, so I feel like the case is kind of missing the point.

FAVI didn't START that way. It was a restructuring by their CEO in the 80's that made that happen. A group of potential workers would be unlikely to band together and create a succesful industrial complex like that out of the blue IMO - it started with at least a management structure and CEO to facilitate cooperation enough for that to be possible. I feel like both you and sharp_one oversimplify things in this case. Employees aren't cogs and "bosses" as a catch-all term aren't completely useless unless all you are is a name on the marquee.

Oh yes, poor people can be absolutely obsessed with not looking poor. Another factor is that poorer people are often not very well educated (my mum never went to school at all) and don't know their options, as well as there's also a lot of contradictory laws and behaviours that come from some forms of social welfare - at least in the Netherlands. I have an aunt whose husband became unemployed at a late age and they had to go on welfare to supplement their income. My aunt still worked part-time, but ended up quitting that job because not her net income but her gross income was deducted from his welfare, and they ended up in a situation where they'd get a better income if both of them were unemployed than they'd get if one of them kept working. I mean, the hell is the logic in that?

You're right to an extent. A lot of people I grew up with still look at how much harder it is to get a better lot in life compared to others, and use that as justification to not even try. Personally, I must resign to a life of poverty, since I'm a crazy starving artist.

The thread for anything you find interesting that doesn't really fit in another thread or category but you don't think warrants it's own topic. Quote system screwed up for me. Last posts were a discussion about upward mobility: Hurlshot: Now you are just being silly. Your default seems to be "**** you're not below the poverty line, what the **** do you know?" Orogun: I wouldn't say it so rudely to you, after all we are all friends here. But you're right, I will say that I'm aware that is not impossible for low class to start a business but I always draw a blank when I try to think how they did it. My guess is that they had the connections beforehand and wasn't as big of a risk for them to take loans. Hurlshot: I would agree with you there, connections are important. However most communities have those types of connections available to those with the drive and personality to pursue them. Clearly there are more risks and obstacles the farther down the ladder you are, but it does happen. I would say it is very possible to at least climb into that middle class you were dismissive of. Eh, I grew up seriously straddling that poverty line and I'm kinda with Orogun. It's possible to get out, but even hard work and smart thinking is sometimes not enough to do that. People who get out generally have help from a connection and otherwise it's an uphill struggle.

Eh, I grew up seriously straddling that poverty line and I'm kinda with Orogun. It's possible to get out, but even hard work and smart thinking is sometimes not enough to do that. People who get out generally have help from a connection and otherwise it's an uphill struggle. EDIT: Probably time to close this. New one coming up!

These days I think they open up that way, but a decade or two ago they usually slowly grew into it. I read a story once about a bar owner near a train station who hadn't realized until years later that it'd become a gay bar, he just thought he attracted a lot of young traveling men passing through. Then he was like "eh, they pay well and they're neat and rarely cause trouble, I'll just deal with it". EDIT: I do actually have a problem with bars that don't let people in based on their ethnicity or gender or sexual orientation or whatever. I get the desire for safe spaces, but I don't think they're very helpful? Segregation is segregation, and I feel like it only fosters that "us vs them" mentality between different demographics. True understanding can only come after mingling. It sucks to not be accepted, but I feel like people'll never accept something they don't know and have lots of misconceptions or stereotypes about. That's my two cents. But then, I don't really have much experience with people discriminating against me. I've had a couple of run-ins with it regarding mental illness and lived around an area with lots of minorities as a kid and sometimes got bullied for being white, but that's not really consistent racism. Perhaps I lack the proper empathy.

Why does this work!?

The Brotherhood would have won the first Tiberium War.