Andkat

I was LS Male, with an LS Male Revan. Vandar Died on Katarr proid. AOnly Atris is left. EVryone else is dead. (Atris is dead too if you killed her). Everyone other than Vrook, Zex-kie-ell-whatever, Kavar, Atris, and Master Vash. Sion kills Vash on Korriban, and either you or aKreia (depeding on your pervious choices) kill Vrook, Whatever-his-name-is, and Kavar. Vandar attended the concalve on Kattar, and so thus he's dead, like the planet itself.

Kreia once clipped into a random area on citadel station, so I switched to her an dall my characters soon followed..... Also, I had master Ze-Kai-Ell whatever speak with Master Kavars voice on Dantooine. ANd I remeber the master say sometyhing about how they felt some bizzare alteration in the force on a variety of planets, then the conversation ended, and they where, standing, yet I got a journal entry (no uber force power), and when I talked to them they dropped and its daid Kreia ha ddraine dtheir force. I also once had the first person view camera mode activated in 3rd person. I tsill had the HUD, but the camera was confined (I could only move it horizontally and vertically in a fixed angle). Fianlly, on Onderon, after defeating Vaklu, my character was still making lightsaberblocking motion w/ his lightsabers (whcih wheer offf) throughout the whole conversation. It looked like he was utilizing 5-pound weights. It was hilarious, he was punching into the air with his lightsabers!

Can we please cease conversation on Jade Empire. it's utterly irrelevant. I prefered every apsect of Kotor2 over Kotor (including ending), other than the "colelct 4 X things and go to a planet for a finale". I've played 4 games iwth the exact same premise (NWN, KOTOr,NWNSOTU,KOTOR2). The game, however was OBVIOUSLY rushed. You're eitehr sleep deprived or insane if you cannot see that. I mean honestly, the game screws up near the end, with short sequances, random cutscenes, and some pointless areas. I hated the battle with Nihilus, I knw nothing about him and he was pathetic yet he was supposed to be "uvber dark lord of hunger". WIth Malak there was actually TENSION. Everyone basically said "beware of Malak, he'll owen you, he has amazing abilties". But in this game, the villains are barely metnioned. Yu have no clue as to what they are, or their powers. Not only that, but you did know their appearance and very basic bio. It was a bizzare and exasperating semi-mystery that was illogical and ant-climactic (otehr than Kreia, who was well-done, though a bit under-powered). I actually prefererd the edning. In Kotor, the LS ending was ripped from "A New Hope" (everyone is happy an dgets medals, there's large quantities of cheering, etc.) Kotot 2 had mystery to its ending, though I would hav eprefererd more elaboration and some dakr hints as to the Exile's fate (and a far more thorough prediction on the fates of your companions, and actual romances, and resolved loose ends). Finally, the planets where underpopulated and lacked meaningful quests other than the primary plot. I loved Kototr's planets, but Kotot 2 was mostyly sterile (especially Korriban, I was hungering to explore more dark, myserious locations). And Malachor V was sterile and rushed. And the backrounds where horrific, they where 2D backrounds (as where the extrenal explosions). But the villains, heros, an dplot had sso much potential, its depressing. I still love Kotor 2, even for it's almost countless failures.

Utterly pointless. Also, i for one like the idea of "true sith". In my opinion, in the next game you shoudl first wander around the republic for say, a length similair to that of the original KOTOR. You hsould then travel to the unknwon regoins and fight/or become a true sith. I think you should be able to CREATEVLY flesh out botth Revan and The Exiles appearnace, and perhaps somehow create a random name (they could have, say, a "written exam" as part of jedi training or something, where all the answers are correct regarding Revan and The Exile, perhaps). Or they could just ignore The Exile. After all, he wasn;t really famou,s braley anyobdy had a clue as to who or what he/she was. EDIT: By "utterly pointless" I refer to a KOTOR film, porting character appearance and perhaps stats as wll could also potentiall be a great Idea. Then, perhaps for the endgame, after some very thorough processes that will utterly flesh out the 2 prior protagonists, they could be your party memebers. I would als prefer more world options, and I don't want to collect 4 of ANYTHING. I collected 4 godsbedamned artifacts/organisms in NWN, NWNSOTU, KOTOR, and KOTOR2, and it has become excessivly repetetive.

You hav to talk to Kreia about jedi training (I believe its auto). You may then talk to The Handmaiden in-depth concerning her mother. Also, how can you convert Bao-dur. My only options concern Dxun. I thonk it has somethoing to do w/ influence gain, but I never managed to gain influence with him other than on one occasion.

You get vVisas when you are strongly comitted to an alignment. I usually get the visas cutscene after querying Kreia on he rtrue nature, and I usually get Visas on Nar Shadda (my first planet usually). The final ending is determined by whether you annihilated the jedi masters or not. What happens if you slaughter, say, vrook, but spare Kavar and (insert overly complex name).

Revan read the locked topic on the lost KOTOR 2 endings, where he recieved free gizka. These Gizka, realizing he had poisoned/sold the previous gizka, got pissed off and beat the crap out of Revan, whom wasnt prepared for the fact that they multiply faster than you can intaite combat with them..... And thus Revan fled, leaving Hk-47 to be torn apart by Gizkas.

the only time you encounter Visas Marr's lightsaber is when you first battle Visas Marr aboard the Ebon Hawk. You destroy her lightsaber (there is no way to prevent this).

You fought the handmaidens? In my game, it happened in a cutscene, with Brianna (the Last of the Handmaidens) drawing her lightsaber, then a fade to black and several femenine groans. the Hadnmaiden then fights atris (actual comabt). Then My character arrived, and also fought Atris. twice.

kreia and Visas are both force-user already. If you mean "jedi" as in making them light-side, well, its VERY easy with Visas. Just have all light-side responses and be ultimate light-side. AFter I met her, Visas became an instant ultimate light-side jedi. Kreia is impossible w/out utilizing one of the glitches that allows you to obtain inf. lightside. Bao-dur is also impossible, since no conversation options do anything to his influence. ANd once you talk to him about "what he's been doing", all you can get out of him is "nevermind" (unless you wish to build your lightsaber or queary him on his expieriences on Dxun). As for the handmaiden, you must recieve a lecture from Kreia, have completed all 3 duels, and then you must quesry her on her mother, which leads to her jedihood. however, does anyone know how to accquire the handmaiden's jedi robe, I could never find it. And finally, in an utterly unrelated inquiry, has anyone found the Ankarres Sapphire orKaiburr power crystals, I've never been abl;e to find the damned things......