Hmm...interesting. I'm going to have to take another look at the "Force Crush" animation. What I'm guessing that on the 'raise/quiver', at least the larynx is being crushed, if not the entire trachea. And on the 'crunch',the spine is being broken/shattered, possibly other bones at well. I can't really see any bleeding (other than possible internal bleeding), from the initial asphyxiation, and the same goes for the subsequent destruction of the bones (unless there are compound fractures). :ph34r: