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Well, as someone else pointed out, if that were the case, he'd get a penalty fort sure as even if accidental you have to have full control of your stick, and if not a penalty. By the way, I know this won't change opinions as those are pretty much hardcoded, but here's a pro Avery article: http://www.411mania.com/sports/nhl/73299/P...ers-4.16.08.htm But, yeah, I'm sure he's retarded and knows nothing about hockey either.. Though, it should be pointed out what fatcual error there as Pronger *did* get suspended for his dumbness this season...

"Avery, Bertuzzi, Simon... All three names won't go down in history for goal scoring, big hits, game winners, or playmaking abilities, but cheap shots and cheap plays." What ahs Avery done that puts in the same group as those two? He's never crippled anyone that I know off. Players and the league don't like him because he's the best trash talker in the game, and does it so effectively it takes people off their game. That's why he's hated despite the fact he doesn't go around crippling people - unlike your buddy Broduer who loves to tkae his stick and spear people. L0L Avery coasts the line but has not crossed it. P.S. Come on, Washington. Can't have Ovechkin lose in the first round to the Goon Squad Elite.

Messier wasn't a coach. And, you say I have no hockey knowledge. L0L But, yeah, Avery is evil bnecause he waves his stick in the air hurting nobody; but you find physical assault a-ok and makes the league proud. I guess you think Bertuzzi did nothing wrong. I don't give a crap what some Ranger fans thinl. There ar epeople who agree with me too. *shrug* That's life. The league has no respect for itself, or innovation. What Avery did was absolute genius. Pure, and simple.

So.. waving a stick in the air because you just don't care is evil; but physical assault is a-ok? LMAO Nothing more really needs to be said. L0LLIGAGZ! P.S. Really? You think I care what Valiquette says? of course a goalie will say that. And, that's why Avery did it. To agitate. Which is his friggin' job. L0L Still, this proves how awesome Avery is. He intimidates the NHl so much they even change the rule book for him. They should call it the Sean Avery Rule. HAHAHA! P.S. The media is pathetic. I don't blame him for not talking to those scumbags. He's paid to play hockey, not to talk... unless it's talkin' trash with fellow players on the ice. HAHAHAHAHA! I'm a Rangers fanboy? Nah. I've criticized Ranger splenty of times when they do scummy things. This isn't one of those. Not even close. Avery is an old school player who plays hard all the time, and brings skillz to his game. That's respectable, and honourable. Quite frnakly, he did nothing wrong. then again, you believe in physical assault so *shrug* you are the last person who shoudl be talking about unsportsmanslike anyways.. R00fles! It's all about the anti Avery bias.

"Avery is not the Rangers. There are MUCH better players (Jagr, Drury, Shanahan, ect) on the team. He needs to top making this series about him and start making it about the team. " The idiot who said that misses the point. The whole point to Avery's game is to distact the other team so they concentrate on him, and let the other skilled players do their thing. btw, Shanahan is no longer as good as Avery. In his career, yes, now, no. There's a reason why the Rangers have a better record with Avery than without. he's awesome at his job. And, he's doing a terrific job of it getting Broduer off his game. "He should respect Brodeur (one of the greatest of all time, like you said) enough not to pull some cheap-**** like that. I'm surprised Brodeur didn't just punch him with his...What was it, 3 Stanley Cup rings" bbrdouer needs to act a vertan, and earn that respect. You don't get respect by punching someone in the face, and corsschekcing, and spearing them. Why should Avery respect a goon like that? The fact that people call Avery unsportsmanlike for waving his stick high in the air where it can't hurt anyone but think it's a-ok for Brdouer to physically attack someone is balony. Avery should continue tod o what he does - combine skill + agitator which he does quite well. Again, Rangers are a better team with Avery in the line up. There's a reason for that, and is no coincidence. 4 points in 3 games versus one of the best goalies ever says everything I need to know about Avery's skill level, and how much he's gotten under Broduer's whiny skin. Win or lose the series, Avery has been awesome. Period.

"Do you honestly want that kind of behaviour to be included in hockey?" How is he hurting anyone doing what he did? His stick is no position to hit anyone so that's not the reason. All he is doing is finding a creative way tos creen/bother Brdouer. That's his job being in front of the net. It was Broduer slashing, punching, and doing cheap shots yet everyone here seems to think that's a-ok and 'sportsmanship'. Real mature of Broduer, and his fnaboys.L0L "What about the two HITS he through at Brodeur?" Like the one behind the net? Give me a break. Broduer went out of his net/crease to play the puck. Avery went in to stop him. He didn't evenr eally check him; but love tapoped him 'cause you gotta treat goalies with kid gloves. People whine that i'm biased cause Avery is a Ranger. I beg to differ. You (and the league) are bias against Avery so anything he does is automatically viewed as 'unsportsmanslike'. I guarantee you if anotehr player had done this nothing would be said by most. I will gladly point out when Ranger players do cheap shots, and garbage crap I want out of the game. What Avery did is harmless to me. He was hurting nobody. Except distratcing Broduer effectivley which, ONCE AGAIN, is his job. Then again, Avery is just unskilled goon who has 3 goals, and assist in 4 games versus one of the best goalies ever. L0L

Only because the league has a bias towards Avery. *shrug* But, then again, Avery is the goon even when he's not hitting anyone but Brodeur is a nice,s weet guy ... who punches peopel in the face, wacks them with his stick, pears them, and crosschecks them. LMAO All Avery was doing wass creening the goalie. LMAO But, I guess, innovation isn't allowed in the NHL. R00fles!

How was that 'bush league? Seemed legit to me. He was screening. He wans't hurting anyone. Bunch of crybabies. And, the TSN guys are just as bad. Waawaa! Boo hoo! Anyways, Devils got this one. We'll get the next. Avery deserveds a medal for having great hockey intelligence not penalty minutes for a genius move.. and, it worked too. "He's a f**king goon." swear all you wnat; but how does his unorthodox screening make him a goon? He never laid a hand on anyone. It was Broduer who was being a goon taking shot sat him with his stick. Brdouer should have been penalized then again the refs are so hilariously bias towards Avery it's garbage. And, oh, the untalented hack scored ANOTHER goal. L0LLIGAGZ!

"You are ignorant and uninformed and obviously part of a goon squad." Fun comments aside, the facts speak for themselves. Avery is a skilled hockey player. Period.

L0L That no talent hack Sean Avery scored the GWG tonight.. just a few nights after scoring the game clinching goal. L0L Avery. No talent punk. HAHAH! Rangers up 2-0. It's becoming clear than Lundqvist is throwing Brodeur in the trash. Just too good.

"he's a dirty player, and what "skills" do you speak of? The guy came up with 33 points this season and 154 penalty minutes (in 57 games). I'll stick with players like Pavel Datsyuk who tally 97 points, with just 20 penalty minutes. That was in 82 games by the way." AQvery is no more dirty than most players. He doens't goa round trying to injure others for the most aprt. btw. Nobody is comparing him to Datsyuk. that's silly. hwoever. Avery is a skilled player who can do a lot of thinsg for your team. He's like the main reason they slaughtred Atlanta last year, and he did it clenaly. Same with last night. One of the main reasons why the Rangers won was him. Did you notice that like 3 players only had more points than Datsyuk this year? Are the guys below unskilled too? Avery isn't one dimensional. It's no coincidence the Rangers play better with him in the line up than out. "People wonder why the NHL is always thought of big goons running around wacking each other with sticks, it's guy like Avery and Chris Simon that give the league it's bad rep." Avery is no goon. He's also no Chris Simon. In spite of the fact he's so 'hated' he's never been suspended for game son end nor has he seriosuly tried to cripple somone. He's no different than Gordie Howe, Mark Messier, or even Wayne Gretzky he of the many Lady Byngs. LONG LIVE AVERY!!!!

Aye.

He adds to it. He's entertaining, fun to watch, and a very good player. Very few players (less than 100) add more to the game than he does.

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L0L He's far from the dirtiest player. He's doesn't go stepping on people with his skates, he doesn't try to injure people, and while he's a pest he tries to keep it clean. On top of that, he is a very good hockey player with some skillz. And, he's hated simply because he's awesome at his job. Plus, all teams wish they had an Avery type player on their team. GO AVERY GO!

Rangers laugh at the Devils. Lundqvist > Broduer Gomez > All 100 Devil Fans Avery > Everybody

He was awesome last year in the playoffs. 2nd round loss or not. It's called a team game for a reason. It was a series that could've gone either way, after all.

"plus I'm hoping Lundkvist will finally show what he's capable off in the play-offs too." Weird. I was sure he did that last year...

"They're about the use of firearms, responsible or not." Simply not true. The NRA are exactly as Sand says they are. Then again, Rosie is a member of 'Irresponsible Use Of A Big Mouth' aka IUOABM. R00fles!

Eastern Conference: Montreal(1) vs. Boston 8 :Montreal in 4 - No contest. Pittsburgh(2) vs Ottawa(7):Pittsburgh in 6. Ottawa won't surrender, but Pens will win it. Washington(3) vs Philly(6):Washington in 5 - Ovechkin handles this series easy. Tom Poti, btw, is underrated. Jersey(4) vs Rangers(5): Rangers in 6. Brodeur gets this to 6 games; but the Rangers are better offensively (even though they lack goals too), and Lundqvist is Broduer's equal (now, not in career obviously.. yet). No sweep for devils to be sure. Western Conference: Detroit(1) vs Nashville(8 ):Detroit EASILY in 4. Mismatch big time. San Jose(2) vs Calgary(7): SJ in 7. Toughs eries b/c of Calgary's Big 3; but ultimately SJ is better and they have home ice advantage. Minnesota(3) vs Colorado(6): Colorado in 5. Minnesota is overrated plain and simple. Anaheim(4) vs Dallas(5): Anaheim in 7 - Dallas will push Anaheim but Ducks have Pronger. He'll kill 'em before he loses in the 1st round.

Rangers are 5th, and will face NJ. REVENGE WILL BE OURS FROM TWO SEASONS AGO! Rwarrr! P.S. Lundqvist should be goalie of the year (or at least runner up). He should also be nominated for MVP though Ovechkin should win that EASILY! Pronger, Phaneuf, and Lidstrom should be the finalists for the defensmen of the year. Tough choice for winner though. Washington, or Boston coaches (i can't even name them lol that's how much I care) should be Coach of the Year. Price should be rookie of the year.

Heston is awesome. Whether it be movies, or everything else he did. Awesome.

'It's one thing to disagree with one another, but we don't need to be disrespectful as well." Have you read the sports threads here? Pick one. Whether it be baseball, football, or hockey; you and your goon squad have personally attacked me nonstop. Did I whine about it? No. I just returned the favor. If you want me to be respectful.. return the favor. "Pronger didn't take the Oilers to the finals alone either...he had help too" Please. his help is pathetic. So patehtic that the team haven't even made the playoffs since he left. It's not a coincidence. And, again, just look at the Pronger led Oilers to any of the Detroit teams that Lidstrom has been on. Pronger hasn't played with a Yzerman. Heck, Lidstrom had Federov too. And, let's not forget one fo those cups they had one of the best goalies of all time - not to mention two other goalies who were/are pretty darn good themselves. In the past, Lidstrom wa sbetter. But, currently, it has to be Pronegr; but of course he won't get credit for that b/c some people whine about a) the way he elft the Oilers, and/or b) his goonnish ways... which sure doesn't stop people kissing the butts of punks like Howe. P.S. Ranger sin the playoffs! JAGR AND LUNDQVIST DO IT AGAIN!

"I'm surprised Volourn supports Pronger. The guy has been suspended like 7 times because of shady play. I thought Volourn was the same guy who argued against the brutality of fighting? You really support a guy who stomps down on another player with his blade?" That's becuase you are confused, and ignorant. I support Pronger's skill as a player. I abhore his stupidness when it comes to the cheap shots. I support him being punished when he does dumb things. However, none of that changes the fact that Chris Pronger is ana wesome player, and the best defenseman in the league. It's no coincidence that a Pronger led Oiler squad made it to the Cup Finals defeating the overrated (but great) Neidermayer led Ducks. Then last year, w/o Pronger the Oielrs suck the big one, and there not really all that better this year while Ducks will likely make it to the Conference Finals at the worst.. again.. with Pronger. Heck, Gordie Howe is a known goon who loved to do cheap shots, and hurt people... but, who here is gonna claim that Gordie Howe was a horrible player who deserves to be in the Hall of Fame? Lidstrom is a great defenseman. No doubt about it. But, Pronger is better. Pronger had who on the Oilers when they to the Finals? Nobody. Lidstrom had who when he won Cups? Oh yeah. Steve Yzerman, and Sergei Federov (when he was in his prime). And, as good as Selanne is he's no Yzerman or Federov (in their primes).

Rangers for THA W! If not, it'll probably be Anaheim as they have Chris Pronger who is severely underrated and should have won MVP of the playoffs last season, and the season before. He should also have more Norris trophies too.