Volourn

"Bingo. Seriously, it's what Bioware always has done. The fans just couldn't handle a depressing and devastating end." This is baloney. As shown with two examples in this very thread, BIO has no problem doing dark endings. As for fans not being able to handle it, I agree, but that's on the fans not BIO.

"Party based d&d epic play usually does. Did through Throne of Bhaal and Hotu as well. " Nah. Gameplay of all 3 were awesome.

"I'd still like to hear more on what people think about seeing him pop up very briefly behind Shepard and co on the platform just before you talk to him and decide what to do with the collector base. What is it, a glitch in the game, some kind of hologram, a crack in a TV (what's a TV doing in a Collector base)? " Known bug/glitch if BIO isn't lying.

"The BG games dont fall prey as much to pampering the PC, something (ab)used by Bio later. Yes you're special - but so are all your siblings. Yes you're a hero, but overall in two cities - one of which is very small. Your ascent to power is drawn out over three long games - you can really claim to have been through a lot with a single PC. Sure its unfair to use scope to deride other Bio games, but BG simply has it. It was built to dwarf everything else and thats the kind of ambition I admire a lot. " You aren't really 'hero pampered' in NWN, SOU, JE, ME, or DA. Even in ME2 is not completely over the top though you do get it.. but it is the second game, and you are largely responsible for killing a reaper/stopping the geth so it is kinda earned. Still, even then, you aren't always hero pampered. heck, the mercs on Omega treat you as just another sucker being sent to his death. L0LZ "he did more heroic things then every other Bio PC ever (referring to BG scope)." Disagree. How is the BG series PC 'more heroic' than the ME PC? DA PC? JE PC? KOTOR PC? NWN PC? And, so on. Does. not. compute. I mean, just in ME you stop Cietdal space from being invaded by uber mechs and DA you end the blight, and stoppolitical shenangins from destory the country. Sounds just as heroic as TOB and stopping one of BIo's worst end bosses ever or BG2 facing off with a mage whose main goal is to torture you and conquer his people - not exactlyu world threatening.

"I like the fact that you're dismissing my statement while simultaneously agreeing with it. " Impressive ain't it? P.S. ES games are about an hour long. At least that's how long i cna stand before throwing them in the trash. Except for Oblivion as I skipped that entirely. "Plus the gross misrepresentation, since ME2 and ME1 take about 25 hours to see absolutely all of their content. " Nope. they took just under 50 hours. I play games to play games not to finish them ASAP. It's not an exam but sioemthing i do for fun so I have fun. If I'm not having fun, I quit and waste as little time as possible. Then again, you'll probably claim BG2 was 500 hours long. HAHAHAHA! "Think about it. If you don't want to chase down Irenicus, and if you don't want to rescue Imoen, why are you playing BG2? If you don't want to fight the Blight or go after Loghain, why are you playing Dragon Age? I don't get it. It's like turning up to a F1 driving range and saying you don't want to race, you just want to get in your car and play house." 100% agree with you. Why play soemthing you aren't enjoying. Does. not. compute.

"All of Bioware's games are good RPG's (even NWN, though that may be stretching it a little). That's never an issue." LMAO Nobody who reads your post will ever go away with that impression. It's hialrious you claim that. Have you even read your posts about ME, ME2, DA, and otehr BIO games sans BG series? LMAO "Besides, outside of Elder Scroll type open world games, Dragon Age is very long. It's the biggest BioWare game since BG 2, and one of the longest RPGs I've ever played." O RLY? DA is 58 hours. 10 hours more than ME2 (and ME1). BG2 is less than 100 hours (contrary to BIO and BG2 fanboys balony claims of it being 2 billion hours long, loolz). Yeah, the games are amongst the longest but that's because most games tend to be 30 hours or shorter. If you are lucky. "I think playing as a dead PC is stupid, but that

They have every intention of making then 3 games. However, the trilogy ie Shepard's story,m will be over after 3. "Oh no, Volourn is posting. Prepare for evac" Trolling a susual? Must really love me.. almost a smuch as Boo.. if you keep posting off topic just about me. R00fles!

"Or it might be judged that Humanity is the race that was able to successfully kill a reaper." u 4 that w

"No. Watch the cinematic. The other two explicitly state the morality of the choice, the third one doesn't." No. It's not a 'neutreal evrsus good or evil option'. It's a no I want to be mortal and not a good vs evil vs neutral choice. Good vs evil morality/alignment has nothing to do with it. At all. Ever.

"but I just find BG2 more fun. I know, go figure. Maybe it's a D&D thing, that it doesn't take itself seriously, that it's hokey and all the rest of it." WUT? BG2 took itself damn seriously, and it was all the better for yet. Yeah, it had joke characters; but so does DA. *shrug* "Anyway, Obsid already did allies in KOTOR 2." Nah. KOTOR2 was collecting the jedi. Anyways, on to Awakening. BIO just released the FAQ. there';s some nice things going on, but others are WTFWTFWTWFBARBQWTF!!!!

"I mean the "don't become a god" option in addition to becoming a good god or a bad god. " That's not a neutral decision. It';s basically '4' decision: good god, evil god, good moral, evil mortal. *shrug* End of ME2 was basically a WTF moment. L0L If there was anything that made me think ME2 was a shooter it was that (plus the stupid way 'missions' were handled). Not that the end boss was horrible; but it just seemed so out of place.

Hopefully, it's more than just emails...

"ME2 has multiple ways to complete quests?" Yes. "The story is non-existing " Kiddin' right? Story is right in your face. Collectors are kidnappingb humans en masse, and you trying to figure out why and stop them while finding the baddest bad asses to help you stop them. The game is the story. Anyways, ME2 is an Action RPG with shooter elements. It may be a dumbed down RPG but it a RPG. And, it has more C&C than most full fledge RPGs. *shrug*

Con Air: This is one of a few select movies that i can watch over, and over. Probably the best pure action movie ever. And, I'm a sap for the ending.

"Unlike Tolkien who basically created and completed the entire genre in one extremely well written book, those who followed were just pale shadows." O RLY? created an entire genre? Must have been dreaming about Arthur, Merlin, and Camelot. Or Greek Mythology. or the fact that many of the creatures Tolkien used are far older than his oevrrated (but good) novels. He did NOT create the fantasy genre. "Imoen is your closest friend. " To echo Grom, says who? You, that's who. Not everyone. "Why would you care about some vague Blight..." Because the 'vague blight' will destroy you, your friends, and your family (barring they didn't betray you in the origins lol). As Grom mentions, the blight is not vague. It's very real, and by the end of Ostagar you know this as fact. By the way, nobody at BIo claimed the Grey Wardens were a paladin order. Their one and only mission is stop the blight AT ANY COST.

"As if ME1's combat wasn't peak-a-boo or most cover-based shooters for that matter." Nowhere near the level of ME2. ME1 enemies could actually miss. they simply don't in ME2 since they all use auto hit guns. I remember plenty of times in ME1 where you can go guns a blazing while dodging bullets if you get lucky and move quick enough since your shields cna last more than 1.2 seconds. Thrown in combat with the mako which was a blast espicially when you could see the coolness of running over enemies to mix things up. In ME2, you just can't do that. Your shields go down very quick. After 3 seconds you had no chocie to hide. Only exceptions are enemies like husks but that makes sense since they don't have super guns. Not to mention biotics were hella a lot more useful and cooler in ME1. Getting shot up in ME2? hide for a fews econds and all is well. Getting shot up in ME1, better have medi gel ready and better have some skill in it to get the most use of it. Don't get me wrong, ME2 did have some fun battles; but it is dumbed down. When the only way to fight is to play peek a boo, you are losing a lot.

"To the point that I think anybody who claims me1 combat was better or smarter is smoking crack or freebasing on nostalgia - or just confused and rolls having a bazillion cosmetically different assault rifles into "combat". " Between the fact that combat in ME2 simply comes down to playing peek a boo and shooting while biotics are weak, and useless compared to gun power, I think the people who believe ME2 combat is anything BUT dumbdowned are fooling themselves.

"The darkspawn are just Orcs in disugise." DA ogres = darkspawn = d&d orcs.... WHAT!?! Darkspawn have very little in common with D&D orcs. "even though the entire initial premise is weak: save imoen from clutches o' an evil wizard, why?" That wasn't the rpemise. The prenmise was to go after the guy who kidnapped, inpriosned, tortured, and did magical experiemtns on you. Imoen was unimportant unless you make her important. "bg2 were unique in its openness" No, it isn't. Tons of games are as openn if not mroe open than BG2. How does that make it unique? "chuckle* am recalling when toee were first released and the codexians near universal applauded cain's efforts..." Um, by and large, the Codex still loves TOEE.

"Does it matter who gets the credit or blame in the end? Obsidian knows what they're signing up for and will get the money in either case. Looks like a win-win to me" Hasn't thread been all about gossping what role Obsdiian has or doesn't have in this game? So, yeah, it does matter. Afterall, we're all here on the Obsidian boards presumably because we like Obsidian as devs. The point is if you are expecting an obsidian style game from this don't unless someone come sout and says Obsidian are the ones actually making it. "Also, there's a good possibility that Obsidian will get the credit if this does well, since they are actually somewhat known, while Red Eagle is totally unknown." Agreed. In the same with that BIO has gotten credit for PST or BIS for BG. *shrug*

So.. you plan to discuss ME2 at all.. or do you want to make a thread about me? Either way you are trolling. btw, I said trolling not flaming. "Reposting essential the same thing each time isn't any closer to "discussing the topic", sorry." This is a ME2 thread. My first post was ALL about ME2. Damn straight i was discussing ME2. *shrug*

Still wouldn't change the fact this is Red Eagle's baby. They get the credit or the blame.

I don't think it's a problem? It's the same reason why I don't harp on violence in games causing kiddies to be come mass murderers.. 'cause I don't think it's a problem. *shrug* Now.. people who post in topics but don't discuss the topic could also be considered a problem...

It won't.

Obsidian will likely be the grunt monkeys jsut doing what they're told to do. This is the other studio's game for good or ill.

Believe me, I'm not the only one with that skill posting on Obsidian. Not even close.