Meshugger

In your "idealism" you are happy about eliminating Germany as a country and germans as a people; which is well underway too provided by my original link, but at the same time happy about creating a new nation-identity where other cultures and groups of people exist. You admit that different white ethnic groups in Europe have a culture based traditions, heritage and expressed through arts, music, philosophy, and literature, but at the same time these traits and qualities dissappear when the moment they change passports. You believe in democracy, but the people need to be re-educated until they vote right and agree with your premise of such nation. Your idealism is a mess. It only creates misery and suffering, both for the immigrants and the native population, so I suspect that there some other motives at play here than ideas of a possible "utopia". ....so, in other words, we're back to what i originally stated, based on your answers. I wonder what you will say to your children? "I was born a German in Germany, but i casted all that away to create a new imaginary one"? That has to be an awkward discussion. P.S. I find it interesting that you omitted the Hart-Celler act of 1965 from your argument about USA being an immigrant nation.

Before commenting on your previous answers, i have some other questions: - What then constitutes as European to you? - What are the characteristics of the European spirit, compared to for example the Japanese one? - What are the defining traits, characteristics and culture? - When does one not become a European? 1. Either by historically being European in a geographical sense when talking about events, languages, traditions and so on, or, when we talk about people, a passport from a European country.2. I sadly don't know enogh about Japan to draw the comparison, sorry 3. A culture is defined by its traditions in a broad sense. I also include for example language or arts. 4. When he drops European citizenship Your answers are conflicting one another as sometimes it is just a passport but then later it is unique traits expressed through culture. I will help with point two, it wasn't a direct comparison to Russians per see, but rather how do you even define what the European spirit is when we have songs, art and literature highlighting what is quintessentially French, British or Croatian for that matter. What do you define a European one on the same terms?

Before commenting on your previous answers, i have some other questions: - What then constitutes as European to you? - What are the characteristics of the European spirit, compared to for example the Japanese one? - What are the defining traits, characteristics and culture? - When does one not become a European?

Sounds about right, yesWhat point are you trying to make? Just to make sure that my German is correct, is this what the figures say? Frankfurt - Total number of people with foreign background: 43% - Number of children under the age of 6 with foreign background: 70% Stuttgart - Total number of people with foreign background: 38% - Number of children under the age of 6 with foreign background: 60% Nürnberg - Total number of people with foreign background: 37% - Number of children under the age of 6 with foreign background: 70% München - Total number of people with foreign background: 36% - Number of children under the age of 6 with foreign background: 60% Düsseldorf - Total number of people with foreign background: 32% - Number of children under the age of 6 with foreign background: 60% Köln - Total number of people with foreign background: 31% - Number of children under the age of 6 with foreign background: 55% Hannover - Total number of people with foreign background: 30% - Number of children under the age of 6 with foreign background: 55% Dortmund/Duisburg/Gelsenkirchen/Berlin/Hamburg/Bremen/Essen - Total number of people with foreign background: 20-29% - Number of children under the age of 6 with foreign background: Under 50% I am no sociologist, and I can only speak for Frankfurt, Stuttgart, München, Düsseldorf and Berlin, but I'd say it feels bout right... To be honest I would have thought the number would be higher in Berlin Dear lord, you guys have really crossed the Rubicon. Do you consider it an accomplishment to effectively destroy your heritage and leaving no Germany for your children? You guys are on the path of extinction if anything. What a sad sight to witness.

Sounds about right, yesWhat point are you trying to make? Just to make sure that my German is correct, is this what the figures say? Frankfurt - Total number of people with foreign background: 43% - Number of children under the age of 6 with foreign background: 70% Stuttgart - Total number of people with foreign background: 38% - Number of children under the age of 6 with foreign background: 60% Nürnberg - Total number of people with foreign background: 37% - Number of children under the age of 6 with foreign background: 70% München - Total number of people with foreign background: 36% - Number of children under the age of 6 with foreign background: 60% Düsseldorf - Total number of people with foreign background: 32% - Number of children under the age of 6 with foreign background: 60% Köln - Total number of people with foreign background: 31% - Number of children under the age of 6 with foreign background: 55% Hannover - Total number of people with foreign background: 30% - Number of children under the age of 6 with foreign background: 55% Dortmund/Duisburg/Gelsenkirchen/Berlin/Hamburg/Bremen/Essen - Total number of people with foreign background: 20-29% - Number of children under the age of 6 with foreign background: Under 50%

So this actually happened in the debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFhSn9CCDmw Dear lord, hahahaha

Ben No.3: Are the figures on page 5 in the following PDF true? http://www.uni-stuttgart.de/zlw/bilder/stuttgart_6_2016_El-Mafaalani.pdf

- It's about putting the cows in the stables and claim that they are now horses and feel good about it, that's what the political leaders and the champagne socialists think. - It's also about industry leaders thinking that cows staying in the stable can be learned to work as well, if not better, than their previous horses. It's fascinating to witness how people unintensionally destroying their societies are willing to put up with as long as their conscience is clear.

^It's like what Frank Luntz did on Fox during the Bush years.

Yo dawg, we need some fact checking in our fact checking. It's not like the US accidentally killed about 100 Syrian soldiers fighting ISIS a couple of weeks ago or anything. Like the email server, it was a mistake. I haven't watched the debate yet, but it seems like Trump came off as the wonderful ****lord as he is. I will watch it tonight.

When people vote wrong in a democracy, it is because they are uneducated. It's like they need to be sent re-education camps, i mean schools, or something.

Was it this professor perhaps? But i have a request: A link to what the Russians think about the election and who they like more and why.

Trump confirmed for not being the establishment candidate. It's fascinating to see how all the people of the big club are coming out with the knives in their hands.

It's always easy to dream that way when you can do it on other people's money. This sentiment is, of course, entirely inapplicable to certain highly practical dreams of wall-building and its ilk. The anti-construction engineering lobby has stricken once again, i see. Sure the industry has problems with cutting corners, problems with selection materials with less longviety than expected but they should stop listen to the ramblings of uncle Joseph and put their trust on cousin Donny the builder instead.

What did The Comedian say about real life again? https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/784545882838622208

It's always easy to dream that way when you can do it on other people's money.

are you referring to us ? I was thinking more of the public figures from GOP. Was this jem posted already? (atleast the link itself was) https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927

Hahahaha https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1766 Reality is better than X-Files.

Sometimes life imitates a sitcom. Men being publicly offended by what other men say to each other in private and as soon as the women walk out of the room they make the very same jokes to each other.

What is this? A new batch from Wikileaks? Lets check them out! https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/309 Oh, that doesn't sound what she said the other day. Oh well, maybe she changed her mind or something. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927 Yes, that's why the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street movements sprung up. People just don't like success https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1802 What the ****?!!

For heavens sake NO. As Pidesco mentioned, that's just the probability of either of them winning. The actual vote spread (according to 538) is more like 48.5% v. 43.3%. The gap started widening on Sept 26 and hasn't narrowed since them. Clinton has flipped Ohio, Florida, Iowa, North Carolina and Nevada back into her column. Trump stands no chance of winning if that holds unless turnout numbers for the Dems go into the toilet. it just needs to end now so we can go back to the normal reality in the USA There will be a new and much more palatable GOP candidate after Trump...you know I just realized something I never thought I would need to admit, I miss the old GOP institutions and the guys who Trump side stepped. I would take any of them now over Trump even Carson? My advice to all our Republican friends is dont stress about this election, its okay to not vote....you still make a statement. Or just do what GD and others did and vote 3rd party ? Hahaha

You really believe that by some magic all employers across EU would start paying same salaries, there would be same level of social state without looking at economic power of those countries? Do you really think that it would not destroy economies of such countries? and of course I am not only talking about getting it on Germany level, but to support it, at same time German salaries to go down? There would be riots everywhere...No, I'm saying a unified Europe will solve the problems the euro created, and it will definitely give a boost to ALL its members. BTW yes the most Germans would help... We have good welfare, good free health care, good free education... Am I only one getting a laugh out of this? Through out history the German people conquered Europe one way or the other, but now suddenly they claim to not exist and that national borders are just an organizational problem, but effectively it would still result in Germania being created, even in a crypto-state. "Wir schaffen das!", indeed. Go to bed, Merkel, you're drunk. You really believe that by some magic all employers across EU would start paying same salaries, there would be same level of social state without looking at economic power of those countries? Do you really think that it would not destroy economies of such countries? and of course I am not only talking about getting it on Germany level, but to support it, at same time German salaries to go down? There would be riots everywhere...No, I'm saying a unified Europe will solve the problems the euro created, and it will definitely give a boost to ALL its members. BTW yes the most Germans would help... We have good welfare, good free health care, good free education... Am I only one getting a laugh out of this? Through out history the German people conquered Europe one way or the other, but now suddenly they claim to not exist and that national borders are just an organizational problem, but effectively it would still result in Germania being created, even in a crypto-state. "Wir schaffen das!", indeed. Go to bed, Merkel, you're drunk. Have you ever been to Germany? We learned from our mistakes (we finally did), and we were able to create a country with all the bad outcomes in mind, so we figured out ways how to avoid them the best way possible. And while the Germans were certainly awful people in the past, I think it's safe to say we managed to create a pretty good country. But do prove me wrong Yes, you have denied yourselves an identity to such a degree that you have to forge a new one of Europa instead where everyone has to join. Snap out of it already as the current talisman of human rights and tolerance is a very, very weak one. Read Heinrich Heine's poem about christianity to see what i am talking about. I have been to Germany several times, both on business and on vacation from Berlin to Oberstdorf.

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You really believe that by some magic all employers across EU would start paying same salaries, there would be same level of social state without looking at economic power of those countries? Do you really think that it would not destroy economies of such countries? and of course I am not only talking about getting it on Germany level, but to support it, at same time German salaries to go down? There would be riots everywhere...No, I'm saying a unified Europe will solve the problems the euro created, and it will definitely give a boost to ALL its members. BTW yes the most Germans would help... We have good welfare, good free health care, good free education... Am I only one getting a laugh out of this? Through out history the German people conquered Europe one way or the other, but now suddenly they claim to not exist and that national borders are just an organizational problem, but effectively it would still result in Germania being created, even in a crypto-state. "Wir schaffen das!", indeed. Go to bed, Merkel, you're drunk.

"It's the current year!"-meme will inevitably come and bite people in the ass.