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It took me an hour to read through it all, but that wasn't a burn, it wasn't an ICE BURN either. That piece was a

Christians are asked about Gamergate: https://www.christcenteredgamer.com/index.php/reviews/21-misc-articles/5761-what-is-gamergate-what-has-it-done-for-us-and-what-does-it-mean

Well, that one is not going to any interviews, let alone debates any time soon. Now just let Gawker burn to the ground and something good will come out of this. //EDIT: She called Milo a liar. Whoops (read from bottom up)

You're right, roach infiltrator from the future. That was the point of the post, anything else taken from it is reading too much into it. I suppose one could infer it as a dig at the writers of Feminist Frequency, both of which have at seperate times claimed to not play video games? But in that specific case, it would be a fact and not so much a supposition. In that case the armchair activists really are not the consumer? Either way, since Barthomuk has labeled everyone speaking in favour of GamerGate into a single entity ("you guys") and he seems to currently only be interested of rephrasing others posts in a misrepresenting and projecting manner, I see no need to take him seriously in this debate. Personally, I don't care if there are the mythical "SJW" in gaming, since I've been on the receiving end of that term more times than I care to count, but I do care about the following: - I care about indie developers who rely on exposure from journalists having to become friendly with said journalists to get such exposure rather than having to produce quality games. - Alternatively, they must add anvilicious morals (without subtlety) that the journalists agree with so the journalists will decide to signal boost them, again regardless of quality. - I care that the journalists, who already breached my trust when it comes to scoring AAA games, also breached my trust when it comes to independent games making them entirely worthless to me until they change their ways. - I care that due to the lack of quality of high rated indie games that the "brand" of "indie" has been irrepairably damaged, pushing the average consumer back to AAA titles and removing sources of income from indie developers who release great games. - Independent games that win prestigious prizes to do so based on quality and not due to a racketeering scheme involving the judges of said prizes having invested in the winner. - I care that games journalism at large has ignored that scandal based on being friendly with the developers. - I care that games journalism at large has launched a counterattack against the enthousiast press on youtube based on the supposed scandal of YouTubers taking brand deals and not disclosing them, when the vast majority of YouTubers has either disclosed these brand deals or refused to take them and had already condemned the game developers offering these brand deals, simply because the enthousiast press has been a vocal supporter of the GamerGate movement and they wanted to discredit them. - I care that games journalism, instead of acknowledging people like me who have legitimate problems with the way they work, instead have focused on discrediting me and signal boosting trolls, making those trolls as famous as they want to be and encouraging them through hot air condemnations while clearly naming the victims, painting huge targets on their heads in the process. - I care that a majority of thse games journalists have taken the stance that they cannot discuss something while harassment happens, handily giving horrific trolls the power over what can and cannot be discussed. - I care that these journalists show the highest hypocrisy when they call gamers "entitled" and then make the argument that minorities are entitled to have more games cater to them. I want more diverse games, but you can't promote and decry entitlement at the same time. - I care that some of these games journalists have decided to condemn me and brand me a misogynist, a manbaby, and imply that I am actively involved in harassment, simply because I have concerns that some jerks have hidden behind so they can harass people in the flimsiest excuse for guilt be association that has ever existed since "you eat bread, Nazis ate bread too!" - I care that these journalists have actually done nothing to promote diversity in games but rather harmed it severely with their rampant accusations of sexism, racism and homophobia simply for their own personal dislike of a character rather than actual morally objectionale grounds having convinced game developers that adding diverse characters is not worth the hassle of dealing with these people for. - I care that a couple of women being harassed is being used to drive women away from the industry because they should fear a "boys club", thereby seriously harming the chances that the gender gap will be solved. - I find the highest shame should be in complaining about a gender gap for game developers when 22% of game developers are female, but 8% of the GameJournoPros list is female. Boys club indeed. - I care that these journalists who have harmed diversity in games as well the credibility of anyone striving for diversity in games have branded me and my culture "misogynist" when I and my gamer friends have done more to promote and defend diversity in gaming than they ever will. - I care that these journalists pretend to be the pinnacle of integrity while at the same time condeming charities for taking money from sources they don't approve of. It takes a level of cynicism that even I'm not comfortable with to do that. - I care that games journalism as a whole is happy to take money to give GTA an amazing grade yet continue to pretend they are promoting diversity in games and condeming only those that don't give them money. - I care that these journalists can condemn a game about female empowerment like Bayonetta yet sing the praises of a game like Dear Esther, which literally runs on misogynist tropes. - I care that these journalists have stopped being consumer advocates and instead have appointed themselves as Moral Guardians who control what is being made and have taken it upon themselves to, in an example that was recently posted, declare that games taking place in the holocaust are off-limits regardless of quality or intent and dogpiled developers who wish to make the attempt thereby limited both artistic freedom and gaming as an artform in general. If these guys were movie critics, Shindler's List would never have been made. - I care that these journalists have done so while claiming with a straight face that I, as the consumer, is what holds gaming back as an artform. - I care that these journalists consistently signal boost poorly researched, half baked, morally outraged false academic attacks on video game culture as facts and so devaluing actual academic discussion. I'm perfectly willing to discuss sexism in games, in fact, I've been doing so for years. I don't need nonsense like Feminist Frequency to make it harder for me by being absolutely ridiculous, stupid and filled with flat-out lies. - I care that these corrupt, dumb, morally bankrupt simpletons have had power in the past over, for example, how much money Obsidian made from Fallout: New Vegas because they inform the metacritic scores that affected Obsidian's payment and I will not stop until they have proven they are worthy of this power or are replaced. To be blunt, I care quite a lot about social justice issues and I find "SJWs" can play all the games they want, but I don't approve of two-faced journalists maliciously harming social justice issues for clickbait or to feel good about themselves for being "progressive people who condemn (read: signal boost) harassment" and I definitely don't approve of this ridiculous idea that video game critics are not supposed to be consumer advocates but culture critics. I'll listen to actual academics for that, not glorified game bloggers with zero credentials or intelligent thoughts on the matter of ethics, whose only opinion that matters is the little percentage they add to a metacritic rating. I want more diversity in gaming, I have in the past written countless e-mails to developers to ask them if they could try and moderate their communites better and try to combat toxicity on the internet and it's one of the reasons I've become a game developer. I support women in gaming, I support diverse representation in gaming, but I do not support calls for tokenism and I definitely do not support shaming consumers simply for the "crime" of being the people that studios cater to. If that makes me transparent, or a manbaby, so be it. I don't actually play enough games myself anymore for it to be an idea of "them coming to taek away me gaemz", though. I just feel that the only moral option in supporting diversity, artistic freedom and consumer rights is to support GamerGate. *clap*............*clap*.....*clap*...*clap*..*clap*.*clap*clap*clap*clapclapclapclapclapclapclapclaCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAPCLAP*whizle*CLAPCLAPCLAPCLAP*

Somehow i do think that these SJW are not interested in presenting themselves, and establishing their sites, as gender-counsious places with a "justice"-meter. No, i think that they are more interested in being the norm and in their language, "controlling the narrative".

It's alright, you probably deserved it. Now just listen & believe...

The guy is clearly riding his own ride in this. But let it be a reminder to anyone, do not **** around with a lawyer. These guys see the blood and swim around it like sharks.

"Shot through the heart and you're to blame you give love a bad name bad name"

Thanks!

Nah, i would call it an interactive novel. With it not being a pejorative thing in itself, mind you. TotalBiscuit ran a good thing about formalism and gaming that explained this far better than i ever will.

Was that thing an actual quote? Nope, i made it up. But i like that it still managed to give people a benefit of doubt. //EDIT: Are people trying to attack the self-employed lawyer guy? How dumb can you be? The guy is clearly riding on the GG-thing with his own agenda and they still fall for it? Oh well, time to bring the popcorn then.

Is there any releasedate?

That's because you still have some humanity in you. Anyone agreeing with that statement has gone FullMcIntosh.

Gameplay does not fit the narrative of a cultural object.

um, I don't really respond well to conspiracy theory tinfoil hat rants against my character. But if you insist... the question was what am I doing to combat sexism in the industry? I'm kind of making a game with a female main character. That wasn't longknife's question.

"Not a coincidence it's always women and girls committing whoring, the pattern is connected to ideas of toxic femininity in our culture" Her grammar sucks as well, and she's being dishonest. Bryy: answer longknife's question

Bryy: Errr, i know your position on the GG thing. My point was that how someone else can think your graph would need to be more incoherent. Drugs? Booze? Sleep deprivation? I wonder how the mind and trail of logic flows for someone who already "borrowed" it to begin with.

Was it your idea to make it confusing and incoherent or was that the idea of the person who hijacked it? No, that was me. GG is disjointed and nobody knows or cares what the other person "in GG" thinks. It's a bit more unclear in this one, though, but whatever. Wait, someone thought your graph was too coherent and modded it? dafuq, I don't even

It's like the catholic church and child-fondling priests.

If everyone else followed suit, gamergate wouldn't even have happened. //EDIT: ...and even IGN, think about that for a moment, IGN of all gaming sites comes of as a level-headed site.

No commentary or anything, just Leigh Alexander explaining herself. "The avarage game journalist has matured out of putting scores on things. We're trying to look at games as cultural objects, that you cannot rate and put into a catalog, and tell gamers on whether you should buy them or not. We're out of that mileu. We do not talk about games like that anymore." There you have it. Game journalism. Meanwhile at #Gamergate

Phew, i thought that i was the only one confused by that chart.

BruceVC: I do not see GG ever ending, since it is more of a consumer protest than a movement, i predict that it will rather change into the undesired watchdog of the gaming-industry. If Gawker actually falls under, then it will send a strong signal to the industry that BS is not tolerated. Honesty, rectitude and accountability will prevail, no matter the opinion of the journalist(s). The reason why all sponsors haven't pulled out is that they are slow and reactive in their nature. Until enough people contact them about these matters, they will stay. The last i have heard is that Kellog's are about to pull out as we speak, btw. About the SJW-part, it is just another smokescreen for these people to feel good about themselves, they would've been communists in the 60's and fascists in the 30's. The best example is that when actual feminists are starting to approach GG instead of the journalists, then you know that it is all just BS.

Swedish media thinks Gamergate have the same foundations as Breivik and will cause mass rape and massacres: http://www.svd.se/kultur/tid-for-sjalvrannsakan-i-spelindustrin_4024931.svd