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[CLASS BUILD] The Anvil, the most tough monk around


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Totally agree. I also use them often to replenish the health between fights during a long quest so i don't lose the resting bonus ( i usual stack caed nua +3 const and the +40% healing).

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This build sounds awesome. I couldn't find any videos, so here my questions: is this build ready for "The Ultimate"?



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Probably you can even manage to do it, but i wouldn't choose this build to try that achivement. Mind you, not because is weak, but mainly because:
1) you will often run low in Life, a couple of critical strike or stun at the wrong moment can ruin your day ( and since the main strategy here is just run in the middle of the mobs you can't even easly escape)
2) in some battles you will had to rely on potions. Potion animation Atm is *very* bugged, lose your run because you fail to drink an healing potion 3 time in a row ( happened to me in a couple of battles) is very depressing

Tl;dr: a good and fun build for solo, not raccomanded for trial of iron

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I'm currently doing a barb ultimate run with a quite similar approach and so far it's going well. Since I consider the monk to be stronger I'd say he's viable.
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Good luck for your run! Barb have larger health pool, but poorer retail effects imho ( and no iron wheel/turning wheel). Let me know how is going!

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Yeah - nothing beats Turning Wheel that early in the game when it comes to retaliation. And the higher accuracy and deflection helps, too.

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2) in some battles you will had to rely on potions. Potion animation Atm is *very* bugged, lose your run because you fail to drink an healing potion 3 time in a row ( happened to me in a couple of battles) is very depressing

 

This may very well be a bug, but I imagine that in reality, quaffing a potion in the midst of combat would not be easy, nor should it be. Ideally this would be an action that is subject to interruption, although I'm not sure if this is how game mechanics actually work.



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Interrupts would be ok, but the game cancles the whole process randomly and you never know when and why. You have to pause every 0.5 seconds and click on the potion icon again to make sure the game doesn't "forget" that you wanted to drink a potion.


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Yes, this certainly is a bug. I actually gave up trying to use healing potions in battle some time ago due to this. I usually just rely on passive healing, and healing spells when necessary.



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In solo, especially Trial of Iron, it's very annoying. 



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The days were pretty wrong in my last play through. Not only that some containers didn't have the same overall loot list e.g. Raedric's chest not containing the Gloves of Manipulation (I did a full month long cycle to check). I suspect in one of the more recent patches Obsidian completely reworked the "random" loot tables.

 

I have had the same problem with multiple playthroughs, JerekKruger. I have discovered two things. First, if your MC is not the first in the order of characters, for some reason random loot changes, and does not match the tables. I used to put squishy characters to the back, and when I did this, I never got the expected loot. This was before I realized you could have custom battle arrangements for the characters. Secondly, on some playthroughs, for reasons that are not clear to me, you just get different loot. It occurs maybe 10% of the time when I start a new game.  If I don't find the expected loot in the Gilded Vale Inn, I start over.



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2) in some battles you will had to rely on potions. Potion animation Atm is *very* bugged, lose your run because you fail to drink an healing potion 3 time in a row ( happened to me in a couple of battles) is very depressing

This may very well be a bug, but I imagine that in reality, quaffing a potion in the midst of combat would not be easy, nor should it be. Ideally this would be an action that is subject to interruption, although I'm not sure if this is how game mechanics actually work.
In reality you can't put people on fire just singing, nor transform in a badass boar or cast fireballs. Or in a Place where the local reality permits to do such things drink a potion in the middle of the fight should not be such strage. This is a game and have to be fun, and the mechanichs have to work well.
For example i like a lot how potion works in tyranny: istant effect + cooldown for prevent abuse/spamming. Much better then Poe where do you have a fair long animation ( bugged and easily interrupted), so you can't rely at all in potion effect.

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I'm Level 7 right now an in mid Act 2. This is my first solo run and I started PotD right off the bat (though I finished PotD with a party). The beginning was hard an the learning curve unforgiving. I started with points in stealth to do some quests without fighting an getting some loot and then respecced.

 

Lessons learned:

 

1. Mages / Priests just wipe the floor with you because usually they have lots of meat in front of them.

2. Because of that you absolutly need all figurines you can get your hands on.

3. Potions are as unreliable as Dr <3 said :(

 

So far so good. It's fun, but I can't see my monk killing a dragon, but we'll see ;)

Anyway, nice guide and build idee!



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When you will have 600+ life and 100+ accuracy (and lvl 16) dragons will become doable, have Faith.

Edit: more then figurines, corners in the map are your friends. Try to let at max 2-3 mobs attack you. And consider this is one of the sturdier build possible, solo potd is much more difficult than team potd, need different tactics.

Edited by Dr <3, 28 April 2017 - 02:33 AM.


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In solo, it's a great advantage of the monk over the barbarian that he has a cone-shaped attack rather than a circle shaped. It means that staying in corners not only lets you survive more easily, but also helps your damage output (all enemies will line up in a cone-shape) while with a barb it will lead to less damage. 


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Hm, no 'Two-Weapon style' talent? I'm using this (or perhaps a variant) of it for Zahua, going to grab the two-weapon style talent since it seems useful.


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Hm, no 'Two-Weapon style' talent? I'm using this (or perhaps a variant) of it for Zahua, going to grab the two-weapon style talent since it seems useful.


Two weapons talent is very strong if the majority of your attacks are auto-attacks.
But in this build, after some lvls virtually all your attacks will be only torment reach spam ( which is a full attack), and i'm quite sure that two weapons talent do Little for that.

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It does nothing for the time in between the two strikes of TR, but you can spam TR even faster with it because it reduces the recovery between every use.

If you are already at 0 recovery because of Swift Strikes and durgan steel it's obviously pretty useless (unless you want to wear more armor or use Vulnerable Attack).

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I just wanted to report that I used this build (with only minor adjustments) for my Ultimate run and it was quite successful.

 

The lower levels were a bit of a pain, I think I had to restart about 8 times before I got going.  

 

First, I sold everything during the intro quest (for both of us) since that guy pays about 5x the normal prices.  Then in gilded vale I killed the backer NPC near the temple entrance (can kill without anyone in town caring) to get their plate armor.  That helped a lot.  I rushed a few money making quests and bought the animat summon.  He was useful to distract, heal, and help get mobs to stay in a line for torments reach.

 

I got the gloves and searing ring, and left the rest of rodricks alone for a while.  I pushed to act II as fast as possible, getting to Stalwart at level 5 or 6 (stopped to get the shade summon, which I used the whole game).  That was a pain, but there's a lot of good equipment and xp to be had there.  It took MANY trips in and our of Stalwart (I could handle single ogres, up to 2, before needing to rest).  Luckily it lets you leave Stalwart during the ambush.

 

Collected what equipment I could get quickly (boots of speed were really helpful early-mid and again when I fought Llenn) and then proceed to knock out WM1 quests.  I did have to take a couple breaks due to running out of money (lots and lots of flame shield potions) so I did things like rodricks for quick cash.

 

I killed all companions (except the Monk... apparently you can't kill him) on sight, so I couldn't screw up and accidentally take them (plus free equipment to sell!).  That bit me in the ass with Penn... never got the sanguine plate.  There's another item that gives +2 survival, so that was fine.  I used that stolen plate (with upgrades) for most of the game (until I got the soul-bound one who's name I can't think of how to spell right now).  I put corrosive lash and the biggest quality upgrade on Yenwood (I wasn't thinking with the lash, originally I wanted to go higher with the quality... but it worked out well enough).

 

Once I was nearly done with WM1 (around level 10-11) I went and did some more equipment collecting.  I had most of the recommended equipment by the end of WM1.  I did use a rod (I forget which one) as my secondary, as I found it useful in a few places.  Lots and lots of food (the best for each stat/DR I could find).  Quick items were summon (shade mostly, I had the spider one later on as a backup between rests), regen potion, healing potion, flame shield.  I only changed those a couple times, once in the battery against the shades (recovery potion, that stuck affliction was a problem for me at that time) and sometimes arcane reflection.

 

Steadfast, Yernwood, Ryona's and searing flame were the stars of my equipment, they all worked really well together.  Later on consaul...whatevers head was a key player in almost every major battle.

 

Only places I had issues with was the start of WM1 (just took a long time, and very careful planning), the sirens in the battery (speed boots, ranged weapon, and recovery potion were key), and Llen.  Other than that, things were pretty easy.  Oh yeah, the ambush after getting Steadfast was a pain too.  Did I mention steadfast is awesome?  I had it maxed out right after getting it.  Once done with the ambush I did the mines quest, Steadfast was maxed before that quest was over.

 

I already mentioned the ogres in Stalwart, pretty much just take out the first two, leave and rest, come back and do a slow path around the bottom.  Speed boots would have been really nice to have here, but the ogres are slow enough you can outrun them (but the wolves can be a pain if they knock you down and let a group of ogres catch up).

 

Battery was mainly speed boots to peel off guys (hopefully a lone siren),  flame shield helped kill things pretty quickly.  If perma stuck by the sirens use ranged if they are close to dead or recovery potion.  If you're pretty close, torments will let you slide even while stuck.

 

WMII ambush was a bit of a pain, I was around level 11 I think.  I used shades to move two guys north while I ran sw.  One followed me, took him out as quickly as possible (basically same pattern I describe below, only I didn't have connie yet).  After that healed and peeled off another.  The final one was hard, I was pretty much out of healing at that point, barely survived.  Key with them is to ALWAYS be in melee range, if you're not they may use that damn fire attack which if it doesn't kill you will leave you nearly dead (at least at the level I was at, later on it was just annoying).

 

I didn't do any dragons or big fights until level 16.

 

Alpine wasn't too hard, lower left corner, ranged to start the fight, (food buffed first, of course) then flame shield.  Torments reach does the rest, just keep alive (trying to be around 50% health) and keep flame shield up.

 

Adra I did the quest to get scale breaker, pretty much ignored all the trash mobs (did that for most big fights).  Mage skull dude was a big help here, and I used this opening for nearly all big fights.  First flame shield (always start far enough away to get that up before they get to you).  Scale breaker.  Summon connie, crushing doom and searing flame.  Then torments reach as far as possible.  Corrosive touch from connie is normally my next target, but on the dragons you need a trash mob nearby (dragon is so big he can't get close enough to the center for him to cast it, but hitting a trash mob next to him will affect him).  Normally connie is dead after that, but if he's not I use him to distract or take care of trash mobs.

 

Next I did Llen... that was hard.  First summon shades, send them slightly north (to get dragons attention) then northwest.  I ran southeast, one apprentice followed me so I killed him once I was down there.  Shades didn't last long, but got all other trash mobs out of the way and the dragons.  Llenn was isolated, slowly went north and got her attention, pulled just her and she died easily.  Next was dragons, I wanted just the big guy but I ended up with both and 2 trash mobs.  This worked out well.  Same pattern as Adra (big guy was in front).  Killed one trash mob in front of the dragon (which worked out well, steadfast triggered) then used connie to get the little guy lined up and distracted (connie didn't last long, but he served his purpose).  Flame shield, and torments all the way.  And LOTS of healing.  When the first dragon died the other was already badly wounded, so he fell shortly after.  Then relax... ah crap, the trash mobs.  I had NO healing left, no summons, and just 2 flame shields.  Health was around 800.  Picked off the trash mobs, using 1 flame shield, and ended that fight with only 200 health left (yes, health, not endurance).

 

After that, sky dragon was a joke, never even thought about healing.

 

Magrans faithful weren't too bad, I approached from the east then ran east and got myself stuck in a corner so only 1-2 could hit me at a time.  Searing flame and torments did the rest.

 

Thaos was basically the same, stuck myself in a corner, same pattern as above (minus the scale breaker).  Statues fell easy, connie distracted Thaos (used crushing doom on him to keep his magic as minimal as possible) then he died.

 

Note on flame shield, I used it even against things immune to flame as blood testament still added raw damage.

 

Note on blood testament, they're bugged, after EVERY battle you need to unequip and re-equip them.

 

For resting I would use the trails (+3 con) bonus, then go to wilderness and get +60% healing, then salty mast for +2 might/con.  I used that until I needed to heal, would camp once and normally leave the next time I needed to camp (unless I was nearly done with an area).

 

That pretty much sums up the major fights and basic path I took to get to the end.


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Thanks Valsacar for the report.

 

How do you manage Adragans and their petrifying attack as a soloer?






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