DEMIURGOS: Path of the Leviathan, a highly pretentious alternate history RPG, now on Kickstarter

[Infinitron]

I love this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/546845775/demiurgos-path-of-the-leviathan
 

 

 

DETAILED OPEN WORLD

Roam a continuously opening, growing and ultimately entirely open, accessible, vivid and detailed world.

Meet historic social classes: the industrial proletariat, the spartan helotes or the victorian bourgeoisie.

Strive for the benevolence of the factions to further your own agenda or remain faithful to your lacedaemonic homeland.

Traverse vast areals with numerous enterable buildings - travel throughout the mediterranean and oriental world with modern means of transport.

 

[HI]STORY DRIVEN

Simulate authentically arranged events of the antic Persian wars – in the late age of the industrial revolution.

The historic continuum has been shattered – the fragments reconstructed like a cubistic painting.

Interchangeability of historic events, in light of prevailing principles, gives you an altered and unusual perspective on history and it’s conception.

Blending of philosophic positions and theories demonstrates ambivalence and principality at the same time.

 

RPG-ADVENTURE

Experience a gripping action thriller with 9 varying and 3 distinctly different endings.

Nearly every action influences the course of history – often considerably and sometimes substantially.

You are no nameless hero.

You are Achos Polikron – first commissioner of Messenia –known to the Politeia for his zealous fervor and great virtue.

As a powerful individual you step into an unstable world and it is your destiny to fight for true order on this planet.

 

TURN-BASED BATTLE SYSTEM

Fight for your cause, using a turn-based battle system that is easy to learn but tough to master.

Actions available to you during battle are influenced and determined by your equipment, your surroundings and your prior decisions.

Vaporize your enemy using Teslas lightning cannon, seek a dialogue with your ideological adversary or frighten him with your reputation based on past achievements.

 

ALCHEMY & ENGINEERING

Use the powers of alchemy for your purposes. Prepare potions, explosives or ointments that are essential for your physical and psychological condition.

Combat the results of mental maladies with the means of modern medicine; for depressions and anxieties can haunt even the emotionally strong - if entangled in constant fighting and suffering.

The odds in combat can be increased by improving your armory.

Construct new weapons or modify the ones already available to you.

 

GREAT PERSONS

Encounter more than 50 of histories defining figures, authentically adapted.

Each of these personalities is connected to a smaller or larger story, referencing a historic event or illustrating the philosophic-ideologic position of the character.

Plato’s allegory of the cave and his theory of state; Einstein’s theory of relativity; Karl Marx socialistic ideology; Andy Warhol’s understanding of art; Adam Smith’s principles of economy or Henry Ford’s work ethic, to name just a few examples.

 

Edited July 10, 2017 by Infinitron

[Keyrock]

It's definitely a very interesting premise, and also very ambitious.  I hope it works out.  In the current gaming climate of endless open-world action collect-a-thons, it's nice to see a really unique idea like this.  At the same time, I can see this crumbling under the weight of its ambition.  I hope it doesn't.

[213374U]

 

 

But really, interesting as it looks, are they already mostly funded or something? €8k? Is this a Codex in-joke or just a plain old scam?

[SonicMage117]

Hmmm... seems interesting.

[DanielBill]

But really, interesting as it looks, are they already mostly funded or something? €8k? Is this a Codex in-joke or just a plain old scam?

 

It's not a scam! It's the absolute minimum goal, we have additional (but obviously limited) funding sources and most importantly:

we live like spartans...

[213374U]

 

But really, interesting as it looks, are they already mostly funded or something? €8k? Is this a Codex in-joke or just a plain old scam?

 

It's not a scam! It's the absolute minimum goal, we have additional (but obviously limited) funding sources and most importantly:

we live like spartans...

 

Good to know. It's just that the pitch is incredibly ambitious for a game to be made with less than €10k, and it looks as though a lot of work has gone into the project already. And seeing that it's based in Germany, I thought it might be taking advantage of EU game development co-financing programs or something. Only turnoff that I can see is that it seems to be Steam-only, everything else looks pretty good.

 

Good luck!

[DanielBill]

Thank you very much!

It's not Steam only!! You can have either the Steam OR the DRM-Free Version!

Do we need to point that out in the campaign description?

[Keyrock]

Thank you very much!

It's not Steam only!! You can have either the Steam OR the DRM-Free Version!

Do we need to point that out in the campaign description?

That would be useful, as it's a sticking point for some people, not me, mind you.

[Fenixp]

Do we need to point that out in the campaign description?

Only if you're absolutely positive that you'll actually be able and willing to put the additional work into maintaining Steam and DRM-free release.

[SonicMage117]

Thank you very much!

It's not Steam only!! You can have either the Steam OR the DRM-Free Version!

Do we need to point that out in the campaign description?

The last thing you want is the GOG cult hounding you down to your front door step. They're worse than the anti-prepurchase campaigners who are comparable to the man with a sign at the end of the street yelling "The end is nigh!!!!"

[Fenixp]

The last thing you want is the GOG cult hounding you down to your front door step. They're worse than the anti-prepurchase campaigners who are comparable to the man with a sign at the end of the street yelling "The end is nigh!!!!"

You can actually release DRM-free games without GOG. Or Steam. Or any other distribution service for that matter - and many Kickstarter games did do just that, incidentally. So thus far the only person who seems to be acting like an arse would be you :-P

[SonicMage117]

 

The last thing you want is the GOG cult hounding you down to your front door step. They're worse than the anti-prepurchase campaigners who are comparable to the man with a sign at the end of the street yelling "The end is nigh!!!!"

You can actually release DRM-free games without GOG. Or Steam. Or any other distribution service for that matter - and many Kickstarter games did do just that, incidentally. So thus far the only person who seems to be acting like an arse would be you :-P

This wasn't directed towards anyone here (even though some people here hate Steam so they may take slight offense) but at the Steam forums you can see how many GOG loyalists are there to complain every time a game gets ported/released on Steam or special treatment on Steam whereares GOG does not.

 

As soon as the Steam hub goes up, they will be there on the forums asking as always so the devs may as well do everything they can to avoid the headache.

Edited July 13, 2017 by SonicMage117

[Fenixp]

This wasn't directed towards anyone here (even though some people here hate Steam so they may take slight offense) but at the Steam forums you can see how many GOG loyalists are there to complain every time a game gets ported/released on Steam or special treatment on Steam whereares GOG does not. As soon as the Steam hub goes up, they will be there on the forums asking as always

And when a game doesn't get a Steam release, developer receives loads of e-mails saying "Steam or no-buy". And when a game receives special treatment outside of Steam, like on consoles, Steam users get upset and angry. That's not specific to GOG users, that's just how idiots behave. Similar to idiots who bring up GOG vs Steam rivalry (albeit indirectly) in every other thread in existence and then claim they're not Steam fanboys. Admittedly, similar to idiots who keep taking their troll bait, so... I think I'll quote Bart on this, but you will have to use -some- imagination to make it apply for my account

 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/r123qm0207nb4z9/2017-07-11_14-45-09.mp4

[SonicMage117]

 

This wasn't directed towards anyone here (even though some people here hate Steam so they may take slight offense) but at the Steam forums you can see how many GOG loyalists are there to complain every time a game gets ported/released on Steam or special treatment on Steam whereares GOG does not. As soon as the Steam hub goes up, they will be there on the forums asking as always

And when a game doesn't get a Steam release, developer receives loads of e-mails saying "Steam or no-buy". And when a game receives special treatment outside of Steam, like on consoles, Steam users get upset and angry. That's not specific to GOG users, that's just how idiots behave. Similar to idiots who bring up GOG vs Steam rivalry (albeit indirectly) in every other thread in existence and then claim they're not Steam fanboys. Admittedly, similar to idiots who keep taking their troll bait, so... I think I'll quote Bart on this, but you will have to use -some- imagination to make it apply for my account

Wow... really didn't mean for my comment to strike a nerve with you but I'm going to ask you to refrain from the brash assumptions.

 

I'm not even a Steam lotyalist or anything and nor did I bring up a rivalry. I made a comment that was meant more as a joke for anything but I will say that Steam's community is not as nearly as vocal as Origin's or GOG. And I think it's because Steam has alot more options than both Origin or GOG. It's just somethimg I noticed is all. Are there really many Steam users that go to GOG threads demanding that devs bring a game to Steam? Hmmm...

Edited July 13, 2017 by SonicMage117

[Tigranes]

 

This is the kind of stuff I want to see more and support on KS - crazy but interesting stuff that really wouldn't have hope of being made otherwise. And when it's this crazy and interesting I don't mind if the end result doesn't turn out to be the greatest game ever, it's still worth a punt from me. 

 

Seems like a lot of the game is already up and running as well, representing some kind of proper development. 

[Gfted1]

A video showing how someone was put on Ignore????? Bwahahahaha...talk about going the extra mile just to slam the e-door.

[SonicMage117]

A video showing how someone was put on Ignore????? Bwahahahaha...talk about going the extra mile just to slam the e-door.

I love it actually. Makes me feel important, seems they respected me enough to go that extra mile. I won't be sad or complain about it

[Gfted1]

That's good, you have as much right to post as anyone else. Its the petty attention grab that makes me lol.

[HoonDing]

"a highly pretentious alternate history RPG"

 

That's unheared-of.

[SonicMage117]

That's good, you have as much right to post as anyone else.

Thanks, to be honest, even if everyone put me on the ignore list I would still be here commenting daily for non-members or newbies that come here and browse to read the comments. That to me is more important anyway hehe

[Orogun01]

 

But really, interesting as it looks, are they already mostly funded or something? €8k? Is this a Codex in-joke or just a plain old scam?

 

It's not a scam! It's the absolute minimum goal, we have additional (but obviously limited) funding sources and most importantly:

we live like spartans...

 

Please invest in a better art style and don't go too intellectual on the story. Ramblings about philosophy get tiring and detract from the plot..or to put it another way: "Show; don't tell".

 

Good luck with your game.

[213374U]

Another thread hijacked by C&C Bruce?

 

Gee, that's a shocker.

 

 

It's not Steam only!! You can have either the Steam OR the DRM-Free Version!

Do we need to point that out in the campaign description?

 

It's not immediately apparent that "Steam key or download" means DRM-Free download. Can't hurt to specify that it'll be an option.

[SonicMage117]

Another thread hijacked by C&C Bruce?

 

Gee, that's a shocker.

Well... it is the Obsidian forums where everyone feels entitled to something after all, either that or every thread has to have at least one argument. If you don't participate you are not part of the fam and that's the most important thing in life

[Orogun01]

 

Another thread hijacked by C&C Bruce?

 

Gee, that's a shocker.

Well... it is the Obsidian forums where everyone feels entitled to something after all, either that or every thread has to have at least one argument. If you don't participate you are not part of the fam and that's the most important thing in life

 

You have grown a lot, grasshopper.

[DanielBill]

 

It's not immediately apparent that "Steam key or download" means DRM-Free download. Can't hurt to specify that it'll be an option.

 

Will definitely do that. Thanks for the suggestion!